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[ArtHands]

Same shit happens world wide , japan , Singapore , Hong kong , Taiwan , china etc. ( at least those places that i visited online )

Sony fans just cannot let it go.

...i guess its because MH was what resurrected the psp years back.

Ironic it ended up becoming one of the many weapons which Nintendo now uses against the vita.

Hope it continue to sell well and come to the west eventually.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Gamespy hosts it

2million is great, still have to wonder if it will finally outdo psp sales.

Gamespy hosted Tri servers, I'm talking 3G/4 here:
http://m.joystiq.com/2012/09/16/monster-hunter-3-ultimate-to-use-nintendo-servers-no-bundle-pla/

 

[DrROBschiz]

Reasons to put MH on Vita

- Capture the PSP crowd that broke the sales records last time
- umm Isn't expansion and growth the idea?

Also because demand for it is there. They have been asked about a Vita version so many times by just about every press interview

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013...e_gamers_want_a_monster_hunter_title_for_vita

The only reason NOT to do it is the reasons listed above. Nintendo is going way out of its way to subsidize an already cheaply produced title. The margins on every piece sold must be insane since Capcom is taking in so little risky investments (servers, advertising, publishing, localizations etc.)

Sony was obviously in a bad spot to offer this kind of support since they were in the middle of a corporate restructure when Capcom jumped ship with the series.

I fully expect them to expand again in 2014. Gimme Portable 4th please!

 

[FreedomFighter]

I never said it did. I'm just saying people need to realize that just because MH is on 3DS at the moment does not mean MH is Nintendo exclusive forevermore despite people here wanting to think that. MH isn't coming to Vita anytime soon which has opened the door for hunting genre games like SS and GE2 to come out and carve out their own slice of cake in Japan.

Nobody said that dude. You're just making something out of nothing with more rage induced rhetoric once again.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Reasons to put MH on 3DS:
- larger install base
- Nintendo hosts online servers
- Nintendo helps with localization efforts

Reasons to put MH on iOS:
- people apparently will dump money into low budget spinoffs

Reasons to put MH on Vita:
-

If you can fill in that blank with something better than what the 3DS has to offer then MH will jump platforms again.

I think people need to get past the Vita and look into my main point of MH will move on from 3DS in the future.

 

[clay_ghost]

Reasons to put MH on Vita

- Capture the PSP crowd that broke the sales records last time
- umm Isn't expansion and growth the idea?

Also because demand for it is there. They have been asked about a Vita version so many times by just about every press interview

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013...e_gamers_want_a_monster_hunter_title_for_vita

The only reason NOT to do it is the reasons listed above. Nintendo is going way out of its way to subsidize an already cheaply produced title. The margins on every piece sold must be insane since Capcom is taking in so little risky investments (servers, advertising, publishing, localizations etc.)

Sony was obviously in a bad spot to offer this kind of support since they were in the middle of a corporate restructure when Capcom jumped ship with the series.

I fully expect them to expand again in 2014. Gimme Portable 4th please!

But in 2014 they will release 4G for 3DS lol.

And in 2015 we will finally get 4G for 3DS and maybe WIIU in the west. (off topic but the pokemon remake/ 3rd version will most likely be out in 2015 too)

2016 Believe!

I think people need to get past the Vita and look into my main point of MH will move on from 3DS in the future.

Everyone knows that . It just that where will it goes? Another Nintendo portable , Smart phones or back to console?

 

[watershed]

I think people need to get past the Vita and look into my main point of MH will move on from 3DS in the future.

Of course MH will move to hardware other than the 3ds at some point. But for now the 3ds is the best selling handheld and it is where mainline MH games are headed. By the time MH5 is released who knows what the market will look like. It might end up on Nintendo's next gen portable but if not then it will probably return to consoles. I don't see any other big players in the portable space ahead and smartphones just aren't suited to mainline MH games.

 

[Magicpaint]

I think people need to get past the Vita and look into my main point of MH will move on from 3DS in the future.

Of course it'll move on from the 3DS. It also moved on from the PSP. That kinda goes without saying

That doesn't rule out a MH4G for 3DS though...but yeah, MH5 will most likely be on a new platform.

 

[Camwi]

Instant gratification gamers basically.

Its a mindset difference in the gaming public.

I'd say it's less about that and more about Japan being more compact and easier to find local multiplayer buddies.

 

[DrROBschiz]

My Vita outcry aside

I am glad the game is doing so well. MH is one of my favorite games ever and its been rough to see Capcom peel back so much over the past year instead of expanding forward

They are a very risk adverse company to begin with given the failure of most of their experimental titles over the past year (DMC, Lost Planet, Etc..) I can see why.

I just want them to localize it at this point. Here is hoping Nintendo gives it the same treatment that MH3U got... despite how poorly it seemed to perform.

 

[watershed]

My Vita outcry aside

I am glad the game is doing so well. MH is one of my favorite games ever and its been rough to see Capcom peel back so much over the past year instead of expanding forward

Can you give some example of how MH has been peeled back? I am unfamiliar with the term, does that mean compromised or not innovative or something?

 

[frankie_baby]

Of course MH will move to hardware other than the 3ds at some point. But for now the 3ds is the best selling handheld and it is where mainline MH games are headed. By the time MH5 is released who knows what the market will look like. It might end up on Nintendo's next gen portable but if not then it will probably return to consoles. I don't see any other big players in the portable space ahead and smartphones just aren't suited to mainline MH games.

it really isn't going back to consoles (apart from upresed ports and spin offs), MH tri sold incredibly well on wii but just not on the same scale as the handheld games

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Reasons to put MH on Vita

- Capture the PSP crowd that broke the sales records last time

Assuming of course that the PSP crowd hasn't already bought a 3DS...

 

[FreedomFighter]

Here is hoping Nintendo gives it the same treatment that MH3U got... despite how poorly it seemed to perform.

Not according to Capcom, who was pleased with sales. Don't know what you expected from an up-res console port.

It did well in the West too.

 

[frankie_baby]

Of course it'll move on from the 3DS. It also moved on from the PSP. That kinda goes without saying

That doesn't rule out a MH4G for 3DS though...but yeah, MH5 will most likely be on a new platform.

i'd say MH5 is a fair bet for 3ds still

 

[FreedomFighter]

Can you give some example of how MH has been peeled back? I am unfamiliar with the term, does that mean compromised or not innovative or something?

My guess is he means graphically. Which still doesn't make much sense, but I'm interested to hear what means by this as well.

 

[Parakeetman]

I'd say it's less about that and more about Japan being more compact and easier to find local multiplayer buddies.

Nope, look at the threads and for the most part what you see is a small core group who understands the game and why its the way it is. Everything else is by those who come from a totally different mindset.

Its a cultural issue in general.

 

[goomba]

Vita needs its own exclusives. I doubt that many would buy Vita's to play a game they can already play on their 3DS's

 

[Lesiroth]

Now all that's needed is for Nintendo to release 3DSTV so Capcom can stop pretending to care about console versions of MH.

Congrats to Capcom, Tsujimoto, Fujioka and all other parties involved; this served as a great boon in continuing the success of the 3DS in Japan as expected.

As far as a Vita developed Monster Hunter goes, highly doubtful at this point. I have no issue with wanting more support for a console you like and understanding the moves that is needed to approach that goal, however if there were any real chance of Monster Hunter coming to Vita Capcom would've probably hinted at something by this point and not pushing Vita owners to download MH off of PSN. This "beef" between Nintendo fans and Sony Vita fans over this is stupid since regardless of 3DS's success Vita will still get support and competition is good for any industry.

Well said.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Can you give some example of how MH has been peeled back? I am unfamiliar with the term, does that mean compromised or not innovative or something?

Oh no I was talking about Capcom in general

Remember that last sales call when they stated they were peeling back development and consolidating their efforts

Basically a restructure to get themselves back on track after some big losses.

Focusing on Key Heavy Hitters (MH4 etc) and building up their Mobile division (ugh...)

 

[RumblingRosco]

A Pokémon x Monster Hunter cross-over.

Let's do this Nintendo/Capcom.

 

[watershed]

Oh no I was talking about Capcom in general

Remember that last sales call when they stated they were peeling back development and consolidating their efforts

Basically a restructure to get themselves back on track after some big losses.

Focusing on Key Heavy Hitters (MH4 etc) and building up their Mobile division (ugh...)

Oh yes, well Capcom definitely has some issues they need to sort out.

 

[Parakeetman]

Vita needs its own exclusives. I doubt that many would buy Vita's to play a game they can already play on their 3DS's

VITA has its own exclusives really. Its why sony has been putting so much into that co-op school marketing campaign showing off all the co-op titles it has currently and upcoming.

The next big one will be god eater 2. Granted its not monster hunter type of numbers, it still has a growing fan base from the original game. Also people are highly curious about freedom wars, though thats still off for a while.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Vita needs its own exclusives. I doubt that many would buy Vita's to play a game they can already play on their 3DS's

Um people in Japan are so Monster Hunter Crazy I assume they would buy both

I don't know how much crossover there is but I am sure MH Vita would move at least double or triple what Toukiden/Soul Sacrifice/PSO2 did

Thats not such a small number that it wouldn't be worth it to them

There are other factors at play here. The demand for MH Vita is clearly there in the homeland man. It comes up in multiple press interviews and polls

 

[frankie_baby]

A Pokémon x Monster Hunter cross-over.

Let's do this Nintendo/Capcom.

I guarantee there are people in Nintendo and Capcom trying to work out how such a game could happen, it may never happen but then no one ever expected pokemon x nobunga

 

[Exile20]

without digital sales MH4 would(probably since we don't know if these numbers right now include digital sales) have a lower opening then MHP3

all copies of MHP3 were physical retail copies. mhp3 wasn't on psn until 6 months after release iirc

That is a bad comparison, in one situation customers have a choice between retail and digital in the other there is only retail. I am sure if MH4 was only retail it would be just as high.

I think people need to get past the Vita and look into my main point of MH will move on from 3DS in the future.

Move right on to the next Nintendo handheld.

 

[ArtHands]

Assuming of course that the PSP crowd hasn't already bought a 3DS...

This. Going by the current sales and the games on the 3ds (kingdom hearts, tekken, resident evil, street fighter, little battler etc) i imagine a large amount of the psp crowd has a 3ds by now in Japan if not later.

 

[Parakeetman]

Um people in Japan are so Monster Hunter Crazy I assume they would buy both

I don't know how much crossover there is but I am sure MH Vita would move at least double or triple what Toukiden/Soul Sacrifice/PSO2 did

Thats not such a small number that it wouldn't be worth it to them

There are other factors at play here. The demand for MH Vita is clearly there in the homeland man. It comes up in multiple press interviews and polls

Regardless of press interviews and polls capcom am sure pays for hard marketing numbers which is what they make their decision off of. That and compounded with potential production costs.
Being one who enjoys platforms sure Id like a VITA version, hell even screwed up earlier thinking that there already was one out. But there is something most def on the money end that has prevented capcom from wanting to do so.
Perhaps in the future with the PSV TV gaining traction from pre-orders and upcoming titles shown off at the TGS & price drop + new model plans will be changed for a MH game on said platform.

That is a bad comparison, in one situation customers have a choice between retail and digital in the other there is only retail. I am sure if MH4 was only retail it would be just as high.

A big reason why folks seem to go digital here most of the time is due to not being able to get a physical copy. Or just dont want to deal with the hassle of launch day lines. The whole idea of convenience vs standing in lines is changing here in Japan its why online shopping services have been constantly growing in country and retailers are really feeling the effects of it.

 

[sajj316]

This. Going by the current sales and the games on the 3ds (kingdom hearts, tekken, resident evil, street fighter, little battler etc) i imagine a large amount of the psp crowd has a 3ds by now in Japan if not later.

As a Vitabro, I do agree with this. Nintendo's aggressive pricing and business arrangements have all but secured the major players. It also helps launching first and then slashing the price before your rivals launch (it also needed it). Cut throat, but its business.

However, its not like Resident Evil Revelations lit up the sales board on 3DS. That title would have been ideal on a Vita (imho).

 

[Exile20]

Regardless of press interviews and polls capcom am sure pays for hard marketing numbers which is what they make their decision off of. That and compounded with potential production costs.
Being one who enjoys platforms sure Id like a VITA version, hell even screwed up earlier thinking that there already was one out. But there is something most def on the money end that has prevented capcom from wanting to do so.
Perhaps in the future with the PSV TV gaining traction from pre-orders and upcoming titles shown off at the TGS & price drop + new model plans will be changed for a MH game on said platform.



A big reason why folks seem to go digital here most of the time is due to not being able to get a physical copy. Or just dont want to deal with the hassle of launch day lines. The whole idea of convenience vs standing in lines is changing here in Japan its why online shopping services have been constantly growing in country and retailers are really feeling the effects of it.

I am not saying not.

 

[mclem]

Reasons to put MH on Vita

- Capture the PSP crowd that broke the sales records last time

They have captured the PSP crowd that broke the sales records last time. For the most part, those people are on the 3DS.

The trap many people have fallen into seems to be that owning a PSP would logically mean that you would purchase a Vita. Capcom did not make that assumption; they treated the new generation as a completely clean slate. It appears that it was the correct decision.

Now all that's needed is for Nintendo to release 3DSTV so Capcom can stop pretending to care about console versions of MH.

2DSTV. Although what controller would it use? Wii U Gamepad?

Move right on to the next Nintendo handheld.

Just like it was unwise to assume the audience would necessarily move directly from PSP to Vita, it may be somewhat unwise to assume *too* much that the 3DS audience would necessarily move directly from 3DS to a followup. It's very early days on that front. That said, I do think the series will remain on handhelds, so I guess the final judgement may come down to whether it's realistically a viable prospect on smartphones.

 

[DrROBschiz]

I am pretty sure that given Vita's healthy attach rate they would be able to sell a cool million at least on Vita

Nintendo really gave them a sweet deal for sure because I have never seen Capcom shy away from multiplatform cash ins

I am going to keep a close eye on 2014 for sure.

Anyone who has played MH3U on WiiU (off tv) or MH3U/Portable3rd on Vita KNOWS that its a dream to play hunting games on the system

Lets be honest with ourselves here

 

[Toxi]

A Pokémon x Monster Hunter cross-over.

Let's do this Nintendo/Capcom.

Holy shit, imagine hunting a Garchomp.

No, scratch that, imagine hunting a Garchomp in the sand.

 

[Riki]

I am pretty sure that given Vita's healthy attach rate they would be able to sell a cool million at least on Vita

Nintendo really gave them a sweet deal for sure because I have never seen Capcom shy away from multiplatform cash ins

I am going to keep a close eye on 2014 for sure.

Anyone who has played MH3U on WiiU (off tv) or MH3U/Portable3rd on Vita KNOWS that its a dream to play hunting games on the system

Lets be honest with ourselves here

What game on the Vita has hit a million on Vita in Japan?

 

[freezamite]

Can you give some example of how MH has been peeled back? I am unfamiliar with the term, does that mean compromised or not innovative or something?

It doesn't have HD graphics and that's all that matters to the "hardcors".

 

[frankie_baby]

I am pretty sure that given Vita's healthy attach rate they would be able to sell a cool million at least on Vita

Nintendo really gave them a sweet deal for sure because I have never seen Capcom shy away from multiplatform cash ins

I am going to keep a close eye on 2014 for sure.

Anyone who has played MH3U on WiiU (off tv) or MH3U/Portable3rd on Vita KNOWS that its a dream to play hunting games on the system

Lets be honest with ourselves here

MH3U on vita? are you being honest with yourself there?

 

[sörine]

Um people in Japan are so Monster Hunter Crazy I assume they would buy both

I don't know how much crossover there is but I am sure MH Vita would move at least double or triple what Toukiden/Soul Sacrifice/PSO2 did

Thats not such a small number that it wouldn't be worth it to them

There are other factors at play here. The demand for MH Vita is clearly there in the homeland man. It comes up in multiple press interviews and polls

I think a more interesting question might be what sort of market franchises like PSO, Toukiden and God Eater might find on 3DS? Everything was consolidated on PSP and we had Monster Hunter doing multimillions while the other big hunting games could expect around 400k to 650k. Now things are split and we have Monster Hunter still doing multimillions on 3DS but the other big hunting games have been reduced to just 100-250k on Vita.

 

[Kouriozan]

Monster Hunter 4 + Pocket Monster X/Y = Monster Domination.

 

[frankie_baby]

What game on the Vita has hit 300K on Vita in Japan?

fixed

 

[DrROBschiz]

No no no

I was just stating how much I enjoy playing the game in this style

Playing Off TV play on the WiiU was great

Very similar to how my experience on Vita is. Very comfortable.

That said I would be very happy to see a WiiU version in the west in the same vein as what we got with 3U

I just like that Vita is a true portable with all the features I want built in. (Party Chat, Bluetooth, Dual analogs, ect..)

 

[Ridley327]

Holy shit, imagine hunting a Garchomp.

No, scratch that, imagine hunting a Garchomp in the sand.

They don't even need to do much work with that. All they have to do is take a Cephadrome and paint it purple.

 

[mclem]

I think a more interesting question might be what sort of market franchises like PSO, Toukiden and God Eater might find on 3DS? Everything was consolidated on PSP and we had Monster Hunter doing multimillions while the other big hunting games could expect around 400k to 650k. Now things are split and we have Monster Hunter still doing multimillions on 3DS but the other big hunting games have been reduced to just 100-250k on Vita.

I made a comment in an earlier Media Create thread: I can't think of an instance previously where a clear genre king made a leap to a different platform and wasn't followed by a significant number of other games of the genre.

In effect, they've managed to do blue ocean stuff *without changing anything about the game itself*. That's quite a feat!

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

We're also kind of forgetting the potential issues that hardware fragmentation could cause for local multiplayer. It might not end up actually being that big a deal, but I sure wouldn't want to risk it with a franchise like Monster Hunter.

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

Assuming of course that the PSP crowd hasn't already bought a 3DS...

The hardcore MH crowd did, for sure.

 

[StickSoldier]

I wonder how this will affect the 3DS until Pokemon comes out. 100k+ weekly 3DS's sold?

 

[Nairume]

Nintendo really gave them a sweet deal for sure because I have never seen Capcom shy away from multiplatform cash ins

Uh, just in the last few months alone we've seen them announce two major console exclusives on rival consoles that don't even have a userbase yet.

And beyond DR3 and Deep Down, there's plenty of examples of Capcom throwing games on just one system.

 

[DrROBschiz]

We're also kind of forgetting the potential issues that hardware fragmentation could cause for local multiplayer. It might not end up actually being that big a deal, but I sure wouldn't want to risk it with a franchise like Monster Hunter.

What a silly argument this is

Thats all on the consumer end. Does this negatively affect sales of any other multiplayer multiplatform game ever?

If anything a Vita version would sell a ton of software in addition to the suggested 2 million mark that might be seeing with the 3DS

 

[frankie_baby]

What a silly argument this is

Thats all on the consumer end. Does this negatively affect sales of any other multiplayer multiplatform game ever?

If anything a Vita version would sell a ton of software in addition to the suggested 2 million mark that might be seeing with the 3DS

do multi million selling multiplayer player portable multiplatform games exist? think you'll find the answer is no

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

What a silly argument this is

Thats all on the consumer end. Does this negatively affect sales of any other multiplayer multiplatform game ever?

If anything a Vita version would sell a ton of software in addition to the suggested 2 million mark that might be seeing with the 3DS

There have not been any multi platform games where local multiplayer is such an important feature. It might not even be a big deal due to online multiplayer, but again, is this something that Japan's largest and in some ways most risk averse franchise wants to attempt?

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

I wonder how this will affect the 3DS until Pokemon comes out. 100k+ weekly 3DS's sold?

Pokemon is out in ~3 weeks. The 3ds will sell like sliced bread.