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Here is how replacing your HDD on PS4 works (ComputerBild)
- Thread starter dragonbane
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I got this Seagate Momentus 1 TB 5400RPM for my PS3 and it has worked good. Do you guys think it'll be a good replacement for the HDD in the PS4?
If all you're interested in is increasing the size. If performance is something you'd like to improve (not that we know that it'll be a problem, but with a slow HDD you've got to think that some disk intensive operations will be sluggish) then it might be worth looking for a 7200RPM equivalent.
That said, 5400 is probably a safe bet until someone confirms whether there are heat issues with faster drives. Personally, I'll be sticking with the pre-installed HDD until I need to expand and by that time others will have tested various different drive types.
Nope. I'm sure they'll work for backups, but no confirmation that they'll work for system storage. Hope so, as I have a 2TB sitting around that I can use as well.
Makes sense given the increased storage requirements. Do we have any figures for the launch retail games yet?
If you're talking about the Samsung 840 Evo: That's an absolutely fantastic drive and an excellent choice for any SSD needs anywhere. I'll be feeding my PS4 one of these drives as well
I'm waiting on some results before I get a PS4 with a SSD. 1TB should be more affordable in 2014
Keep dreaming. Prices do keep coming down, but for the high capacity drives I don't see 1TB being mainstream-affordable in a single year. A *refurbished* 1TB OCZ SSD from newegg is $1,299 right now, in a single year it's not going to be a few hundred.
849 for regular price, but point taken. Still, I have a different take on "affordable".
Why a 1TB SSD for storage anyways? Keeping games on a smaller SSD and movies and media on a cheap large external hard drive will definitely be cheaper, and no worse performing as all the transfer rate in the world doesn't really matter for movies.
Nah, I don't consider that affordable either.. I just meant that they're not as expensive as they were a year ago. Hopefully we'll see a further price drop in 2014. I mean, really, this shit shouldn't cost anywhere near that much money.
Seeing the price trend over the last few years, of course they will be cheaper, but still very much in the same ballpark. These haven't really been following Moore's law, to double transistors every 18 months. Whether it's manufacturers milking it or not, I expect to see just slightly under 1 dollar/gigabyte in 2014 on average, nothing drastic.
Yeah, it's really unfortunate as I'd love to own one of that capacity.. but there's no way I'd shell out that much. I'm content with an SSHD for now, to be honest.
Ephemeris
Member
That's what I'm thinking.
crazygambit
Member
Because given the size of the nextgen games and PS+ 1 TB seems really little just for games. I have 1 TB on my PS3 and it's enough, but a 500 GB HDD wouldn't. Considering the gen started with 60GB HDD, I'm thinking even 2 TB won't be enough near the end of the gen, so definitely prepare to buy another HDD down the line.
I'm going to start the next generation the way I finished this one as far as PS+ is concerned. "Buy" everything, but only download it when I intend to play (and delete when I'm done) - I'll keep a bookmark to the MC page of the games I haven't played so I can read about them when it's time to download a new game.
Then after four months when I'm already building up a stupid backlog, I'll start deleting games from the list willy nilly.
I don't think you're correct. I paid about $485 for a 256GB Samsung about 2 years ago. That same money will get you 750GB today.
If you're talking about the Samsung 840 Evo: That's an absolutely fantastic drive and an excellent choice for any SSD needs anywhere. I'll be feeding my PS4 one of these drives as well
Yep, 1TB going in mine, load times are gross.
crazygambit
Member
But then you'll never play them. That's what happens to me on the Vita. Once I delete something I rarely play it again. And I start new games much later than I otherwise would because I have to wait to download them till I've cleared some space.
The whole point of having a digital library is instant availability, switching games on a whim. If you have to start waiting you might as well go physical IMO.
There are exceptions, but the vast majority of the time I won't return to a game I've finished so that's not really an issue for me. As for instant availability, I'll have the next game downloaded the night before or something so that's not cause for concern - I don't have multiple games on the hard drive because I try and play one (two tops, one story based and one arcade/bite-size) before I move on.
disastermouse
Banned
Will in-game loading times be as big an issue with the PS4? Doesn't the large RAM pool help with this a lot?
If there is one constant in console gaming it's long load times. Don't count on it being solved now.
disastermouse
Banned
I have an SSD in my iMac and it makes a world of difference for load times. However, can the PS4 even take advantage of SSDs?
Silurus
Member
It's a hybrid drive so faster than most 7200s even though the platter speed is only 5400.
George Claw M.D.
Member
At $0.60/GB that Samsung SSD is one of the best values in SSDs, regardless of capacity.
Anyway, the price isn't a barrier for me. Capacity is. You question the need for 1TB of storage, but I know that 1TB won't be nearly enough for me if I go all-digital (like I want to do) next gen. Forget movies and other media; I've filled my 500GB PS3 with nothing but games. And that only accounts for less than half my entire PS3 library, since I've bought mostly physical this gen. Unfortunately, 1TB is the current maximum capacity drive available that will fit in the PS4, regardless if it's SSD or HDD.
I think the best option for all-digital users will be a SATA extender cable to an external drive. That way you can do a 2-3 TB drive right away. But I don't see the need day 1, aside from saving the trouble of re-downloading and installing games with a later upgrade.
Will be the prettiest solution? Definitely not. But if games are say 30GB each on average, I can see people maxing out a 500GB stock drive within the first year very easily. A 500GB only has about 420GB available to start, reserve another 50 for cache and apps and saves and whatnot, and you are in the 370 range, so about 10 full blown retail games.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Yeah. SATA cable to external 4TB drive is what I was thinking I might have to resort to if a better solution doesn't come up before I fill the stock 500GB HDD. Then, I'll just do a HDD transfer instead of having to redownload everything through PSN.
fatgamecat
Member
I'm a light console gamer so a 256gb SSD should be good enough for the first year or two at least.
Consider an external drive for storing movies, etc. on.
Consider an external drive for storing movies, etc. on.
Brad Grenz
Member
Probably. If not they'll likely have the firmware up for download on the website you can put on a USB stick just like you need today to upgrade a PS3 Slim's HDD.
Can Crusher
Banned
As far SSD go, is this really a good option? I don't know much about it, but isn't the life span much shorter than a typical hdd?
I was thinking similar things, 256gb would likely be good enough for a couple of years - in the mean-time prices drop.
very tempting...will be watching what happens between US & UK release and reading what differences are found
BlockheadBrown
Member
The PS4 will support external HDs, right?
EDIT: Not right away, apparently. Maybe later?
EDIT: Not right away, apparently. Maybe later?
Not short enough to even think about.
Wow, that thing is like $450 retail. Hope you're getting a good discount. I can't ever myself dropping that much for storage.
It will later, but I think they said not for games, now or later.
I've been running a laptop with an SSD without TRIM for several years, with no issues that I've noticed.
Don't get what?
The conversation you're responding to was about price of SSD's overall, not TRIM support.
Trim is all about write performance, it doesn't affect SSD life in any way (I don't know where you get "loses space rapidly" from). Even if the PS4 doesn't support Trim, random reading speed is what will benefit console gaming most; Slower writing won't be all that noticeable.
It is 100% worth it for PCs - maybe less so for a console, but still enough I'm getting a Samsung 840 Evo as well.