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Post your predictions about what will happen in the next 5-8 years in gaming

Sanke__

Member
More computers use linux than windows in 8 years is my big prediction

ps4 and wii u both outsell xbone in worldwide sales

xbone is slightly higher than wii u in the us with ps4 having twice as many sales as xbone

a new nintendo console comes out in 4 years and is more powerful than xbone and ps4 but there is something crazy/ messed up about it (like how ps3 used a cell processor or such as not supporting anything resembling a traditional controller)
 

oVerde

Banned
There won't be there AAA, only AAA Services, just small games with many micro monetary interactions. Independent gaming will embrace the changes too.
 

McNum

Member
5-8 years is a long time in video games. Still, if I were to make wild guesses...

- The Playstation 4 will "win" the coming generation, with quite a margin, too.

- The Wii U will end up at about GameCube level.

- Microsoft will attempt to reintroduce their horrible DRM slowly over the generation as this is, and has always been, Microsoft's endgame for consoles. As a result, the Xbox One will never really take off and will run the risk of MS pulling the plug early if it doesn't keep up with the PS4.

- Nintendo will prepare and launch a new generation handheld in 5-6 years. The 3DS will see at least one or two more redesigns, including a Lite version in a few years when components have shrunk enough to make that affordable.

- We will lose at least one, probably two big publishers. Square-Enix and Capcom seem like the more likely ones.

- Kingdom Hearts 3 will outsell Final Fantasy XV. Square-Enix will learn nothing from that.

- Capcom will not release a Mega Man game. Or Street Fighter 5.

- Rising development costs will kill off several more studios.

- The Oculus Rift will take the path of all VR devices. Big boom on launch, but no legs at all. In 8 years, it will be another footnote in the folly of home VR.

- Sega, however, will be on the rebound with a series of smaller, tactical investments and focus on what they know how to make. It will be Sega that helps keep the Wii U afloat, and a Sega-Nintendo partnership will begin to form over the years. Not a merger, just a tight symbiotic relationship.

- Some smaller indie studios will see massive growth as their small, but focused games bring in massive value on investment, as appose to the razor-thin margins of AAA games.

- Sony will not release a successor to the Vita for the duration of the PS4's lifetime, and maybe not even after that.

- The Steam Machine will do okay. It won't as much replace consoles, as it will replace desktop PCs for gaming use. A laptop and a Steam Machine may end up as the weapons of choice for PC gaming.

I think that's what I got. It's hard to think of specific titles 8 years ahead. Well, other than The Last Guardian.
 
The answer I have for all of these threads is virtual reality. The reason this is always my choice is because I believe it's something almost everybody wants, yet most everybody doesn't know they want it. In 8 years, I believe a majority of core/hardcore gamers will be VRing the hell out of shit. If there are next-next gen systems, it'll be integrated at launch.
 

th4tguy

Member
Console generations won't be as long as the last gen. with x86 architecture, Sony and MS can make smaller improvements to the hardware similar to iOS devices and still allow 100% backwards compatibility.

Games like Destiny will be supported and improved upon for many many years after release, similar to how games like WoW or League of Legends operates.

Turning games into a service instead of a one off shot is the future of hobby. The hardware and OS will reflect this.
 

WolvenOne

Member
I think you missed my first point where I said that casuals (interchangeable with people unimpressed with visuals IMO) will go for mobile. PC will be the bastion of core gamers who do care about visuals. There will still be some in the middle, but given how quickly mobile graphics are improving, I don't expect the middle to be that large in 4-5 years.



My first point with indies is that they are basically willing to work for free in the hopes that they make a game that sells well enough to make them some living money. It's hard to get cheaper than free, and that's happening right now. I can easily imagine 3-4 years from now that many more indie developers will be making games - and because it's something they would want to do anyway - they will be willing to do it for a pretty low return.

My second point is that tools like Unity and other game engines are getting better and the cheaper engines are getting better so that you don't need a $1M budget just to have a reasonable game engine. As more and more game engine's get built and they compete to be licensed (there's already UE, Cryengine, REDengine, Unity, etc), that low-mid tier price will fall more as well making indie games with decent graphics more and more common.

1: The idea that, "all casuals are going mobile," is both overly simplistic, and not particularly well supported by the data. A lot of, "casual," gamers, only play the big titles like CoD, or Madden, and there's no evidence these kinds of gamers are leaving for mobile. Mobile, is mostly a gaming destination for young children, or, gamers whom would otherwise have lapsed out of gaming altogether otherwise.

2: No, I'm sorry, but indie developers cannot work for free, or even very little, indefinitely. Already we're seeing a trend of indie game programmers working on one or two titles as a labor of love, before leaving for other more lucrative jobs. Unless they're one of the few highly successful indie developers, they just cannot earn enough money to do that indefinitely.

Long story short, people grow up, they start families, have to pay for insurance, have to put kids through college. It's stupid to think that people could just continue being professionally poor by choice, under those circumstances. 99 times out of 100, an individual will choose to change careers.

Seriously, I find this astounding. This is, "basic human nature," territory, so I'm not sure how you miss it so thoroughly.

3. Don't assume casuals don't care about visuals, they do, they just don't think small differences like, playing 900p, verses 1080p, are all that big a deal. If casual gamers didn't care about visuals, we'd all be playing low budget titles with NES era visuals.

What PC master race types cannot wrap their head around, is that most gamers operate on a, "good enough," mentality. PC's on the other hand, are Hot rods, that require a lot of time, money, and attention. There's a reason why normal consumers don't drive around in hot rods, and there's a reason mainstream gamers don't own a top end gaming rig.
 

GeekyDad

Member
In 5-8 years, we'll be back to playing with wooden blocks because the world economy will have crashed hard. The U.S. will eventually default on its debts, we'll probably see some equivalent of another world war (and possibly another U.S. civil war), and gaming will be something we look back upon with fondness.

That, or everything will be full-on mobile. Either way, we're looking at an apocalypse of some sort.
 

Kater

Banned
- Fallout 4 will get announced next year, the release date is around September. Fallout New Vegas 2 will be released in 2016, developed by Obsidian like the first was.

- SteamMachines will be a hit in Europe, not so much everywhere else. SteamOS will take Windows piece of cake (gaming market).

- PS4, XBOne and Wii U won't meet sales expectations while the sales of both big handhelds will pick up.

- Tablet & phone gaming will still be a big thing in 2 - 5 years.

- Maybe a rise of Point & Click games thanks to touch control devices.
 
Console generations won't be as long as the last gen. with x86 architecture, Sony and MS can make smaller improvements to the hardware similar to iOS devices and still allow 100% backwards compatibility.

Games like Destiny will be supported and improved upon for many many years after release, similar to how games like WoW or League of Legends operates.

Turning games into a service instead of a one off shot is the future of hobby. The hardware and OS will reflect this.

This will be much easier than previous generations if they stick with x86, but it won't be out of the box.

They would have to maintain a legacy API on top of the PS5/XTWO API, which they may not want to do.
 

Mahonay

Banned
shenmue 3 will be a kinect game

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That would be the worst thing to have ever happened. I want Shenmue III, but at what cost...but at what cost?
 

R0ckman

Member
Lol at OP's prediction on Sega. From what I understand aren't they just getting by on Sonic?

Reminds me of a several years back people thinking Sega would out of no where leap out of the shadows with a new system and destroy the competition.

I think console gaming will collapse in spirit, the older gen gamers will move toward supporting indie and steam based games through kickstarter.

Consoles will become a western "AAA" FPS frat no mans land. Nintendo will still do Nintendo til they fluke or run out of money. Japanese devs will run out of money and go indie/kickstarter.
 

wildfire

Banned
Nintendo's Devil's Pact
Nintendo's next machine will be an all in one device (portable device that can output to your TV.)


The Big Six
The "console" wars will take a weird turn. People will be talking about Google+Apple (yes I'm saying both companies will have a partnership for their games division) vs Amazon vs Nintendo as one battlefield (because they'll lack high def experiences) while MS vs Sony vs Valve will be the other battlefield.


Red vs Green vs Blue
Nintendo will be the only console/handheld maker with Nvidia GPUs. (Valve doesn't count as a console maker for obvious reasons)

Fashionably Late
We're going to get a platforming game that sells everyone on the promise of 3D gaming. It will only be available on Nintendo's and Valve's ecosystems. (microsoft as well if you want to count Windows)


We have Insert Buzzword Here
We will move away from open world games for stricter level design with giant set pieces. All the rage will be the ability to have animations in 3D that was previously only cost effective in 2D hand drawn games such as objects changing volume.


Porn Companies Branch Out Into Offering Virtual Interactive Services
Title says it all.

WOW Has Been Replaced. Subscriptions Live Through Indentured Servitude
The Biggest MMO in the next decade will have more sales than WoW did in the West (I don't want to count Chinese numbers because of the nature of their transactions). What CCP started with PLEX combined with the widening income gaps wordwide will weirdly help make this game a juggernaut.

Walled Off Is the New Status Quo.
Or Open Source Gaming is Put On Life Support.

Market place wars take a turn for the worse. Google + Apple merger triggers world wide lawsuits between various parties. Microsoft's, Valve's and Amazon's ecosystems will ensure a lot of money will be spent for nothing except to line lawyer's pockets. We will end up pissed because developers are now being contractually bound into markets. The definition of 3rd parties will take a serious blow.


The New West Coast vs East Coast
Silicon Valley's hegemony over game development will be challenged as the scenes in Massachusetts, Georgia, Virginia and New York blow up in a big way.
 

Hindle

Banned
Microsofts multi media strategy pays off. The XBO is thier most profitable console.

Valve announce HL 3 in 2015 along with L4D 3 and CS 2.

One of the biggest franchises of today wont be on the market by 2018, Cod?

Nintendo dominate the games industery again, but with the console that comes after the Wii U.

The PS4 helps stabialize Sony, but Evolution gets closed.

Just a few.
 

Linkyn

Member
After some consideration:

* Having learned from the lower interest in hardware in the past years, all current manufacturers opt to release their next systems by 2020, such that the coming generation is slightly shorter than the one before it.

* Depending on the success of the Steambox, more traditional PC manufacturers will start trying to build PC-console hybrids, a trend that is eventually adopted by both Sony and Microsoft, but most likely not Nintendo, who is by its very nature traditionalist.

* Initially, both the PS4 and XBox One will see decent sales, but inevitably, Microsoft is going to get involved in a scandal or restructuring of their management that puts the XBox brand at risk and Microsoft closer to their software development roots.

* Inspired by the relative hype of cheap Android-based systems like Ouya, more and more big international companies start releasing their own versions. All of a sudden, companies like Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. try to push into the video game industry, which has become surprisingly lucrative in the past years.

* The above-mentioned introduction of a large number of relatively similar and meaningless systems leads to a crash, and most of the newcomers retract to safer territory.

* After China in the next 3-5 years, we see the development of a new marketplace and possibly hubs for video game development.

* Sony decides to change its strategy for the portable market after the Vita, instead going for a companion device model like what is already hinted at with cross-play right now.

* Several of today's big developer-publishers eventually crumble under the ever-increasing costs of game development (most likely Japanese companies like Square Enix) and are reduced to only developing, with one of the publishing behemoths taking them under their wings.

* Nintendo slowly recuperates from the Wii U's initial struggle. The Wii U picks up in sales in the next 2-3 years and eventually settles somewhere between 20 and 35 million units sold. The 3DS' success keeps Nintendo profitable and they continue to invest in both portable and home systems. Continuing past release trends, they will once again reiterate before the competition with the next portable and home console released in mid- to late 2016, with a heavy focus on mutual integration.
 

Timu

Member
PS4 may have the most sales of the 3 and the X1 and Wii U may have similar sales...this is pretty much the PS2/XB/GC/DC(without the DC-like console) gen again.
 
My predictions:

Oculus Rift will have saved the gaming industry from a crash, at least for a few more years. By bringing in excitement, fresh ideas, and doing more with less (budget-wise). It will bring back the casuals who left after the Wii, and everyone who didn't care about games will want to try it. Some might get hooked, and some will only like the novelty (Wii conundrum part 2). Many of the more hardcore gamers (or those who get headaches easily) will hate on it (like the Wii), and will prefer regular tvs. But unlike motion controls, VR will be the next major step in gaming, so there will be a permanent schism in gaming, similar to the line between mobile/os games, and console games.

I think Sony will integrate OR decently well into the PS4. MS will try it too, but not as well as Sony. And it will be 2nd fiddle to MS' other aims of social integration, ad placement, and statistic gathering/selling to highest bidder.

Sony will be very clearly the winner of the generation from the start, and the gap will only widen as time goes on. Lower down, 2nd place is practically tied for both WiiU and Xbone. The Xbone will not gain the momentum it needs, even after MS will secure some shocking megaton exclusives over the years (TOO HUMAN trilogy!!). Nintendo still won't get much 3rd party at all in the future for WiiU, except for a few stars here and there. But it will put all it's might behind doing their best on 1st party titles, including bringing some 'retro' (cough Metroid) ideas, including some games last seen on NES and SNES.

As for 3DS and Vita, Vita will do much better starting from 2014. 3DS will continue doing well but will stagnate, and sales will slow down starting from end of 2014. Vita (2016) will last longer as a platform than 3DS (2015/2016). Nintendo will worry and not know what to do for a successor. That is when the real fun begins... Nintendo's last console is not the WiiU, but it's next one will be a hybrid portable/console.
 

bishoptl

Banstick Emeritus
Hey, thats a great list you got there. Did you look at the games on your top 20 list?
You might wanna actually look at what your posting? You might find some flaws in it
Unless your implying last years FarCry 3 is somehow a top 20 item?
Well hey, at least Black Ops 2 for X360 eeked out one spot ahead of that game.
Just Dance 4 on the Wii (not Wii-U, but the abandoned wii)

NOT SURE WHY YOU GUYS LIE TO YOURSELVES, BUT ITS EMBARRASSING, lol


Instead of saying my bad, I was wrong, I'm sorry I called you those names you say "Well, well..... you didn't say 60days"
They really didn't broadcast that, nor is it important. This is where you go into how its standard that these things do it by 90 day increments!!!

Maybe you didn't know you was a troll, but you sure are trolling hard right now old pal.
Seriously tho, I would like to concentrate on this thread so this convo needs to end here.
As Michael J Fox would say... You was right, I was wrong... I'm sorry!
Hi guys,

A friendly PSA to all astroturfers, internet marketing firms, and the like trying to change the conversation here on the forums:

Learn to better cover your tracks. I highly recommend IP spoofing and resisting the urge to leave cute breadcrumbs in your profile.

At the very least, it'll be more entertaining for me to track you down and nail your hides to the proverbial gates.

Toodles,

-bish
 
Hi guys,

A friendly PSA to all astroturfers, internet marketing firms, and the like trying to change the conversation here on the forums:

Learn to better cover your tracks. I highly recommend IP spoofing and resisting the urge to leave cute breadcrumbs in your profile.

At the very least, it'll be more entertaining for me to track you down and nail your hides to the proverbial gates.

Toodles,

-bish

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Expected to be honest
 

th4tguy

Member
This will be much easier than previous generations if they stick with x86, but it won't be out of the box.

They would have to maintain a legacy API on top of the PS5/XTWO API, which they may not want to do.

I can't imagine they haven't been designing the PS4/ Xbone api with this in mind.
 

Glass Joe

Member
Both PS4 and XBox 1 have great launches, but surprisingly poor 2014 first halves.

Microsoft will learn how loyal gamers aren't when their console is neither the most powerful system or least expensive relative to Sony's.

Microsoft will eventually ditch the forced Kinect packages in an attempt to make the Xbox One become more affordable.

More studio bankruptcies as AAA budgets continue to rise, yet said titles don't sell as much as anticipated. Visually beautiful AAA gaming becomes bland due to less risks being taken.

"Indie" games continue to garner traction due to profitable margins and unique gameplay at an affordable price. This lowers demand for the powerful systems.

Nintendo ends up not being as doomed as people thought, and their Wii U survives at between Gamecube - N64 levels. They will be bolstered by 1st party software that the Wii casuals remember and want (Mario Kart and Smash), strong indie support, and having the least expensive SKU throughout the generation.

360 and PS3 will refuse to die.

Playstation brand will "win." Nintendo will be back to their usual pre-Wii numbers, and Microsoft might not do well unless their management can develop a consistent message/branding very soon.
 
There will be a crash or something close where all the game developers who don't budget their titles bankrupt.

Oh, and this is unlikely, but all yearly franchises die. Nothing against the series(s), but I really want that model of game sequels to die

Oh and this is REAL controversial.
Sony as a whole MAY die unless the ps4 pulls ps2 like numbers or more. Ps4 could be a success, but unless its splits off into its own company, we may never get a ps5 D:
 
I think something that gets generally overlooked is the idea that while MS has a big way to change their price point(drop kinect), Sony is not in a poor position for price changes

I believe it was Cerny that mentioned that the PS4 unlike the PS3 with cell have parts that will likely decrease in cost over time and scale in a normal fashion

For instance the GDDR5 memory in the PS4 will only continue to decrease in cost

MS can drop the kinect and lower their BOM significantly but DDR3 has already hit the bottom of the barrel and the ESram solution is proprietary and results in a large APU


MS will likely struggle to shrink the APU (they will succeed of course) but I imagine it will be like a lite version of the cell in terms of costs and cost saving over time

I fully expect Sony to be able to cut prices in a fast and competitive manner. I do not believe that MS will be able to keep the price advantage for long to be honest but without proper breakdown it's hard to tell

If MS care about "winning the generation" as it were and they might not (plenty of money in gold etc.) they HAVE to drop kinect. There is no other move that will win the generation short of kinect 2.0 lighting the world on fire and continuing to do so for the next 6 years

I think in one old thread, a credible poster even said Sony could reduce the cost of PS4 faster than MS could w/ XBO, b/c of GDDR5 vs. ESRAM. Basically b/c the XBO's motherboard is more complex due to the memory setup, reduction of price wouldn't be as fast as what can be done w/ PS4.

Or something like that...
 

Odrion

Banned
PS4 vs. Xbone will be bloodier than expected. The Xbone will start out behind the PS4, but throughout 2014 it'll catch up. It'll be the leading console in America, but behind the PS4 world wide.

The PS4 will lead in software sales.

Ubisoft, EA, and Activision will continue existing, everyone else is susceptible to bankruptcy.
 
* Initially, both the PS4 and XBox One will see decent sales, but inevitably, Microsoft is going to get involved in a scandal or restructuring of their managemnt that puts the XBox brand at risk and Microsoft closer to their software development roots.

Interested in what you think that scandal could end up being...
 

Linkyn

Member
Interested in what you think that scandal could end up being...

I was thinking something like reintroducing some of the more questionable features originally planned for the XBox One, coupled with shady business practices that lead to public outcry over the issue of privacy and use of private information for whatever purpose. More generally, it remains to be seen what consequences replacing Steve Ballmer is going to have.

If that fails, there is always the possibility of hardware malfunction (though they would have to be pretty moronic to let this happen again after the whole RROD disaster).
 
This generation will see either Sony or Microsoft exit it.

After having suffered frightful losses from Wii, DS, and 3DS Sony will never make a portable console again. PS4 will be moderately successful. Sony will foolishly expand PSN to phones and tablets.

Microsoft will co-opt the Steambox in its entirety and release a full-on PC/console hybrid if they remain in the industry. They will implement their original Xbone vision gradually and this will be part of the almost-complete crash of videogames as we know it.

Nintendo will be the only company to make consoles and handhelds as we know them. They will go into debt for the first time. Iwata will be fired. Nintendo of America will scream for more autonomy.

EA will go bankrupt.

2/3 of the Japanese industry will be devoted to solely mobile games. Sega and Konami will exit the industry.

Either Sony or Nintendo will successfully tap into the Chinese market but this will have grave consequences as piracy goes at an unparalleled rate. Sony offering PSN on phones and tablets will be brutal here.
 
I was thinking something like reintroducing some of the more questionable features originally planned for the XBox One, coupled with shady business practices that lead to public outcry over the issue of privacy and use of private information for whatever purpose. More generally, it remains to be seen what consequences replacing Steve Ballmer is going to have.

If that fails, there is always the possibility of hardware malfunction (though they would have to be pretty moronic to let this happen again after the whole RROD disaster).
Now I'm paranoid xD. It's probably been forgotten now, but right around the apex of all the 180s, someone at MS made a comment regarding the removed features, it was something along the lines of "we haven't completely ruled out that stuff". Quick one, forgot the actual words but it's around.

I'm with you, tho. Something tells me we ain't seen the last of the controversy around that stuff.
 

Kajigger

Member
PS4 and Xbone released. People begin to realize that they were crazy to think the graphics would improve as much as they thought it would, people are disappointed, the end.
 
Nintendo will still be there and still doing things their own way, but they'll fade into the background. Their games and systems will be considered novelties and nothing more. Their fanbase will shrink and they'll just live with it, content on being shadows of their former selves.
 
Oculus Rift will sign a deal with Microsoft for console exclusivity. They will expand this to pc as well. This will erode the huge lead PS4 got at launch, but only after a killer title has been released (Portal 3)..

FF15 will be huge. It will save the FF brand but only SE if they abandon mobile gaming.

iOS and Android gaming will crash. Vita and 3DS gaming will rise in popularity.

PC gaming will rise in popularity. There will be a surge in technology thanks to OR and monitor tech.
 

Tevious

Member
- The above "crash" will be a disaster for gaming companies that are heavily invested in that market. Square Enix, being one of those, combined with their inability to deliver software without skyrocketing costs will be forced to sell itself off in parts. Eidos will go to EA or some western house, Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest will go to Namco.

What? I don't think Square-Enix is as invested in mobile as you think, at least money-wise. The reason SE is in mobile at all is because they can easily port existing games or cheaply remake them like FF5. I think SE could get away with having zero sales on mobile going forward and they would be fine. (They would give up on the market before they started bleeding too much cash.)

Now if FFXIV ARR was a complete failure, then I can see SE hurting a bit. Regardless, if SE was ever hurting money-wise, I think they would just get desperate and remake FF7 or something and earn all that cash back.
 
I've already predicted a major MAJOR bomb will kill a major publisher or force them to merge/allow themselves to be bought out within the next two years (starting from January 2013). The only change to this is to add Ubisoft to that list.

The Steambox won't be the explosively successful thing, making it the source of much spin. The other two Week of Valve Gettin' It Done announcements will be the instigators of sea changes, successful for Valve and will be emulated by others.

A new generation will do the trick of snapping most rational industry minds from the neurotic, superstitious, and peer pressure-infected mentalities of generation 7.

The indies and minor publishers of the world will grow in signifigance over the coming three years, taking on bigger projects, getting more word of mouth successes and benefit from both sensible budgeting and broader variety of gameplay and riding those strengths slowly (operative word) to larger size and more projects.

Expect a wierd dichotomy of Japanese gaming flowering without the double standard that helped harrass success this generation and increased exposure/lowered expense of D/L, only for that millstone to be replaced by both the millstone of chasing added value and mobile and the one of luminary greats retiring following the disenfranchised during this generation out the door with few young guns to replace them.
 
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