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[ChiliManiac]

How can this even be remotely true, X1's OS is based off of windows 8, which is exceedingly reliable(maybe different for PC users but for tablets and everything else it's incredible and very minimal on the systems). Secondly, doesn't the Xbox One upscale everything to 1080p anyway? So even if this were true it would still be false.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

That poor puppy. That's just mean.

 

[alr1ght]

Guys, give Albert a break. I mean what else is he supposed to say? I'm sure it will be good enough for many more casual gamers who don't scrutinize graphics so much.

He doesn't have to post here, he chooses to. If he starts spinning, he will rightly get called on it.

Secondly, doesn't the Xbox One upscale everything to 1080p anyway? So even if this were true it would still be false.

c'mon son. It begins.

 

[Amir0x]

Whoa, when did I post that? I need to stop drinking.

You didn't. There's this glitch going around on the forum sometime that will randomly insert the wrong person into a quote box. It happened to me twice in another topic and a few other people said it happened to them too so... yeah. My bad dude

 

[Vire]

Look, I get some people claim such amazing eyesight as to be able to instantly distinguish native vs. upscaled when you're in a room watching and enjoying a game demo, despite the fact that it requires normal people access to a direct feed screenshot with very particular sections zoomed up 8x to pixel count, while also making sure you're accounting for other intentional environmental effects that may blur or otherwise impact the image.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680289&highlight=pixel+counting

But hey, if you're saying you can tell the difference with enough accuracy to make a public disclosure about it, just by watching someone play the game, then I say wow.

I've seen a bunch of other 3rd party games running at various times, and I can't tell you the *native* resolutions of those either.

So me, I'm not making that claim. I'm sorry if you think that's a job requirement.

So you are honestly telling me that the Microsoft director of product planning has zero idea what the number one selling game on his platform will run at?

You didn't bother to ask anyone? Didn't seem important at all?

 

[giantsx6]

Look, I get some people claim such amazing eyesight as to be able to instantly distinguish native vs. upscaled when you're in a room watching and enjoying a game demo, despite the fact that it requires normal people access to a direct feed screenshot with very particular sections zoomed up 8x to pixel count, while also making sure you're accounting for other intentional environmental effects that may blur or otherwise impact the image.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680289&highlight=pixel+counting

But hey, if you're saying you can tell the difference with enough accuracy to make a public disclosure about it, just by watching someone play the game, then I say wow.

I've seen a bunch of other 3rd party games running at various times, and I can't tell you the *native* resolutions of those either.

So me, I'm not making that claim. I'm sorry if you think that's a job requirement.

Everyone is an expert on the internet, you should know that by now.

 

[baphomet]

How can this even be remotely true, X1's OS is based off of windows 8, which is exceedingly reliable(maybe different for PC users but for tablets and everything else it's incredible and very minimal on the systems). Secondly, doesn't the Xbox One upscale everything to 1080p anyway? So even if this were true it would still be false.

Upscaled 1080p =! 1080p

 

[SouthernGangstaNerd]

Hmm... I wonder which console you're buying?

Great argument there, sonny. Why don't you pile on some more fallacies... You may even make NeoGAF's worst posts! You'd be famous!

Think before you type, breh.

Neither, I play on PC where we don't argue about fucking pixels.

 

[BRocknRolla]

Video is even better.

That quite literally sent me into a fit of laughter so intense that I woke up my fiancé and had tears running down my face. Thank you.

 

[SRTtoZ]

We're weeks from release, I don't see the point in holding anything back at this stage. Better get the news out there and deal with any fallout.

Well, the point is they want to sell games/systems. That's the entire point of the partnership. If the Ps4 version is the *much* superior version then it shits all over Microsofts deal.

If they are all hush hush about it then maybe people won't notice until it's too late.

 

[endresults]

Look, I get some people claim such amazing eyesight as to be able to instantly distinguish native vs. upscaled when you're in a room watching and enjoying a game demo, despite the fact that it requires normal people access to a direct feed screenshot with very particular sections zoomed up 8x to pixel count, while also making sure you're accounting for other intentional environmental effects that may blur or otherwise impact the image.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680289&highlight=pixel+counting

But hey, if you're saying you can tell the difference with enough accuracy to make a public disclosure about it, just by watching someone play the game, then I say wow.

I've seen a bunch of other 3rd party games running at various times, and I can't tell you the *native* resolutions of those either.

So me, I'm not making that claim. I'm sorry if you think that's a job requirement.

Guy's got a point.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

Not sure how you want him to respond... He can't just say, "Yeah, it's been a nightmare. We really fucked up this time around, and we're super worried that consumers won't embrace our vision."

I'm sure they're worried. They just can't afford to show weakness. Hopefully this worry will lead to a huge influx of exclusive games on the Xbox One in the future--gotta find that silver lining.

I understand I'm not going to get a response and don't expect one. It's more a of comment. It just baffles me this company chose the direction they did and expected their core fanbase to accept it and be happy about it. I was almost a sole Xbox 360 gamer. My ps3 was a bluray and naughty dog / insomniac machine basically. It's things like this why I'll be a ps4 only gamer until I can get an xbone super cheap without that garbage Kinect. I love halo, and their other exclusives. But I'm not going to stick to a brand I like that is less powerful by far and more expensive just because I like a few exclusives. They totally screwed up with this console.

 

[10k]

To be honest though, most of the people who buy CoD on consoles probably don't care or can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. Most of them probably only buy CoD and Madden and both aren't graphical powerhouses. They may think the graphics on CoD are the best thing since The Cloud®

 

[Can Crusher]

Look, I get some people claim such amazing eyesight as to be able to instantly distinguish native vs. upscaled when you're in a room watching and enjoying a game demo, despite the fact that it requires normal people access to a direct feed screenshot with very particular sections zoomed up 8x to pixel count, while also making sure you're accounting for other intentional environmental effects that may blur or otherwise impact the image.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680289&highlight=pixel+counting

But hey, if you're saying you can tell the difference with enough accuracy to make a public disclosure about it, just by watching someone play the game, then I say wow.

I've seen a bunch of other 3rd party games running at various times, and I can't tell you the *native* resolutions of those either.

So me, I'm not making that claim. I'm sorry if you think that's a job requirement.

Can't believe you're actually spitting the "720p upscaled to 1080p looks just as good as native 1080p and only a falcon could spot the differences 10 ft away from a 32" T.V" line.

 

[jaypah]

How can this even be remotely true, X1's OS is based off of windows 8, which is exceedingly reliable(maybe different for PC users but for tablets and everything else it's incredible and very minimal on the systems). Secondly, doesn't the Xbox One upscale everything to 1080p anyway? So even if this were true it would still be false.

I used to think you were serious but you have to be trolling at this point, right?

 

[doemaaan]

So... do we have to wait for the reviews (or sometime around there) until this is confirmed or is it possible for this to be cleared up by tomorrow?

 

[FireCloud]

I think mr mortimer should be banned for life if it isn't 720p.

Perhaps you'd care to join him if he is. You know... for balance.

 

[TheExodu5]

There's no way the difference would be this large.

 

[gemoran4]

Umm so has this been confirmed (or can somebody link to a news source or statement from sony/microsoft/activision)?

 

[Ricky_R]

Look, I get some people claim such amazing eyesight as to be able to instantly distinguish native vs. upscaled when you're in a room watching and enjoying a game demo, despite the fact that it requires normal people access to a direct feed screenshot with very particular sections zoomed up 8x to pixel count, while also making sure you're accounting for other intentional environmental effects that may blur or otherwise impact the image.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680289&highlight=pixel+counting

But hey, if you're saying you can tell the difference with enough accuracy to make a public disclosure about it, just by watching someone play the game, then I say wow.

I've seen a bunch of other 3rd party games running at various times, and I can't tell you the *native* resolutions of those either.

So me, I'm not making that claim. I'm sorry if you think that's a job requirement.

Ball's in your court morti... My water bed is ready.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

I agree with everything you say. It's my job to cut through PR's bullshit.


And by my job I mean hobby. But I want it to be a job. I don't think I have many prospects at Microsoft though.

It's not a messaging issue though. The DRM policies were real and they sucked. The kinect is real and people don't want it. The power gap exists and we're seeing it. There's no misunderstanding.

 

[Pain]

How can this even be remotely true, X1's OS is based off of windows 8, which is exceedingly reliable(maybe different for PC users but for tablets and everything else it's incredible and very minimal on the systems). Secondly, doesn't the Xbox One upscale everything to 1080p anyway? So even if this were true it would still be false.

Lol.

 

[VanWinkle]

WAY too early to tell for SURE, but I'm starting to feel like, power-wise, next-gen is seeming to be Wii U -----Xbox One-----PS4.

 

[Heysoos]

I've canceled my CoD preorder and will cancel my Xbox One preorder if I don't hear some straight actual answers. If the Xbox One can't handle this game at 1080p then I don't have much confidence in this system going forward.

 

[megabytecr]

That's the point I'm trying to make. I want to get an Xbox One because that's what I want. That's it. If I got a PS4 instead, I wouldn't see it as saving myself $100. I'd see it as not getting what I want.

Yes buy whatever makes you happy. I am going to stay with a Wii U for some time, then PC. For tastes the colors, is a saying in my country.
If exclusives > better 3rd party versions then I understand where you are coming from.

But damn this meltdowns sure are entertaining to watch. It is clear now MS was not ready for launching 2013.

CoD Ghosts ---> PC >> PS4 >>> XB1 >> Wii U > PS360

 

[toddhunter]

I've seen a bunch of other 3rd party games running at various times, and I can't tell you the *native* resolutions of those either.

That is fair enough, I couldn't pick it up either.

But come on, if Call of Duty is 720p you are seriously saying that nobody at Microsoft would have asked or been told? You have confidentiality, but you also have all these partnerships and DLC arrangements and whatever else going on.

Nobody has gone to you "btw the game will look significantly worse on the xbox one. Might need to deal with that one?"

Nobody asked "Hey the xbox one version of the new game in one of the biggest franchises of all time is up to scratch right? If not, any way we can help out?"

Seems to me there has always been help for third party titles in the past. Why would such an important title be a mystery? It would blow my mind if Microsoft was launching a console whilst sitting back and going "boy, I hope this all works out!"

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

The worst part is it's cod lol. If you can't run that shit in 1080p just pack it up.

 

[The Flash]

So you are honestly telling me that the Microsoft director of product planning has zero idea what the number one selling game on his platform will run at?

You didn't bother to ask anyone? Didn't seem important at all?

Shh...

Don't worry. Everything's going to be okay.

 

[theviolenthero]

They don't.


But if they are equal or better they find a way to tell you that. If they aren't, they tell you why their version is still up to par.

They don't? Then why did everyone expect him to reveal the native resolution then?
Even if he said it was 1080p native i wouldn't believe him until i got official word from someone at Activision.

 

[ChiliManiac]

Upscaled 1080p =! 1080p

Well, nobody is arguing that the PS4 is the faster system. The question is will that affect the texture output and does GDDR5 vs DDR3/esram really make that big of a difference to the point were they have to downscale the game to 720p?

 

[Anticitizen One]

You think this guy is gonna give a shit that COD is 720p on xbox one?

or this kid?

 

[mysteriousmage09]

HAHAHA!

 

[alr1ght]

So... do we have to wait for the reviews (or sometime around there) until this is confirmed or is it possible for this to be cleared up by tomorrow?

It (probably) won't be confirmed until it's in somebody's hands.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

There's no way the difference would be this large.

For weeks now the tech fellows on gaf have been saying this will happen and it's happening

 

[dmr87]

Rush job but you get the point.

 

[WAR recon zero]

GAF goes nuts because of this. shit, never change!

 

[BPoole]

I think this is about more than CoD though. It's our first real glimpse (if true) at One versus PS4 in regard to performance. Hence everybody going batshit insane.

Especially considering CoD ghosts looks downright terrible compared to other next gen games like Killzone.

I am anticipating Xbox 360 vs XBone screen comparisons. There's a bigger difference between 720p and 1080p than there is between 600p and 720p

 

[Xyrmellon]

High res gun rendered by cloud.

For whatever reason this one got me. You win, Gaf.

 

[phosphor112]

Ok, so it's 720p.


There's no way in hell that you saw it running and couldn't tell the resolution. And you know that seeing the game running vs watching videos online isn't in the same league.


The upscaler you put in is very good, I'm sure. Also, don't send anyone out to kill me. Thanks.

My beard just doubled in size because of the testosterone that just oozed out of this comment.

 

[MilkBeard]

I agree. I was not being serious. The dude brings the goods half the time.

Ok, good.

It's hard to follow conversations in this thread because it moves so fast, so I end up responding to things that are several pages behind.

*phew*

 

[Anticitizen One]

This thread man

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Rush job but you get the point.

LOL! best rush job ever and so true

 

[Dead Prince]

It (probably) won't be confirmed until it's in somebody's hands.

what if DF isn't allowed to do any more face off D:

 

[Logash]

Looks like the Xbox One should have been called the Xbox 720 after all. Woooohooooahahahaha... Probably the 1000th time ya heard that one

 

[FuturusX]

So tell his boss that he's just not going to do his job? Because of some .gifs (hard G)? I wouldn't, fuck that!

It's not his job to post on GAF.

If it is. He should seriously consider a new profession.

 

[braves01]

There isn't enough popcorn in the world for this thread.

 

[ShadowFox08]

Yet most uninformed casual players in the US will get the XBone version because their friends will.

If only they knew!

You mean 360?

 

[zedge]

Just got home, I wonder what's on GAF.... oh...

HAHAHAHA!

Spoiler

i love dogs dont get all offended

 

[Vire]

Shh...

Don't worry. Everything's going to be okay.

I'm sorry, I don't like being lied to my face.

 

[endresults]

How can this even be remotely true, X1's OS is based off of windows 8, which is exceedingly reliable(maybe different for PC users but for tablets and everything else it's incredible and very minimal on the systems). Secondly, doesn't the Xbox One upscale everything to 1080p anyway? So even if this were true it would still be false.

Probably too obscure...

Spoiler

Labyrinth