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[AgentP]

Mr. PR didn't ask because he wanted plausible deniability, if he knew then he would have to lie or tell, both are bad for him.

What more telling is he said the game looked great, that is a tall drink of water consider what IGN has shown, game look down right awful. So spin away...

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

If true, that would be a bigger difference than I was expecting and really disappointing.

 

[methane47]

oh shit...

lol

 

[Nafai1123]

I wouldn't harp too much on Albert not being able to distinguish resolutions. The fact he even came in here to post is admirable.

 

[Goodacre0081]

So you are honestly telling me that the Microsoft director of product planning has zero idea what the number one selling game on his platform will run at?

You didn't bother to ask anyone? Didn't seem important at all?

I would assume it's more important for him to get other messaging across like when you can get your games and that Xbone gets access to map packs first.

So... do we have to wait for the reviews (or sometime around there) until this is confirmed or is it possible for this to be cleared up by tomorrow?

it's up to the reviewers now. IW isn't going to kill sales by announcing an inferior Xbone version.

on that point, when are gaming sites getting their hands on the hardware?

 

[NoirVisage]

I wouldn't harp too much on Albert not being able to distinguish resolutions. The fact he even came in here to post is admirable.

It is, more so because he literally had nothing to add, but made a showing anyway.

 

[TacticalFox88]

What's with the ridiculous fucking hyperbole in this thread? Ghosts looks like "shit". Really? Yes, in comparison to Shadow Fall, Ryse, Forza, yeah sure. But in the context of just about every other game (not necessarily next gen) it's graphics are perfectly serviceable.

 

[rdrr gnr]

The disparity seems too large and the game too ugly. AP being uninformed isn't particularly new. I'll wait for a confirmation.

 

[ethomaz]

Eh Albert can't win either way. He stays silent everyone assumes it's confirmation. He gives a non answe, everyone assumes confirmation. He gives an actual answer, he risks getting in trouble.

There is a easy way like "it is 1080p guys".

 

[mangochutney]

The drama that gets stirred up in a way probably helps us get answers.

I bet Sony had to rush things once the Driveclub drama started rather than taking their time and announcing it to their time frame and in their words.

Companies don't like bad news spreading and the only way to stem the bad news is to quickly refute it with the correct info.

If we don't get the resolution confirmed by this time tomorrow I'm going to fear the worst.

 

[alr1ght]

YES

@NeoGAFShitPosts found this thread.

I wouldn't harp too much on Albert not being able to distinguish resolutions. The fact he even came in here to post is admirable.

Is it? He's doing his job.

What's with the ridiculous fucking hyperbole in this thread? Ghosts looks like "shit". Really? Yes, in comparison to Shadow Fall, Ryse, Forza, yeah sure. But in the context of just about every other game (not necessarily next gen) it's graphics are perfectly serviceable.

Things get compared to their peers. Next gen gets compared to next gen.

 

[FINALBOSS]

they actually would want to take this as close to launch as possible where it will be drowned beneath all the other launch news I'd imagine

They fucking hope, lol.

Word is spreading like wild-fire. So even if this turns out to be false, the damage is already done because the time the truth actually does come out...it'll be buried under launch news like you said.

I wouldn't harp too much on Albert not being able to distinguish resolutions. The fact he even came in here to post is admirable.

The fuck? He's not a South Korean spy running North. It's his job.

 

[fastford58]

What a shit show this is. Console launches can't come soon enough.

 

[Amatsu]

Man these threads crack me up. Well done on the Nickelback gif.

I'm not going to convince anyone differently, but it's funny how people interpret the tweet as confirmation.

First - I don't know the resolution. I don't have more sophisticated tools than anyone else. I watch the game on a nice TV with the XBO set to 1080p for every game, there is no way for me to know what's native vs. upscaled unless I'm told.

Second, if I did know, it wouldn't be my place to say anything.

If the Ryse footage last week showed me anything, it's that you get a much more interesting discussion when you're looking at real footage.

So now I've seen the PS4 footage, and I've seen XBO running live. To me, they both look great.

The resolution will be what it will be. It will be known when Activision wants it to be known. The only thing I was curious about was if the games look different, and based on the assets available to me, they don't.

So I think when XBO footage comes out, and people can compare resolutions, effects, framerate and other things the debate will be more interesting.

All that doesn't come across in Twitter-sized bites.

Thanks for the reply. I'm likely only getting a ps4 but it's nice to hear the game looks great on both platforms amid all this craziness.

 

[Demon Ice]

From earlier in the thread.

Does one need to be told which frame of this gif is upscaled?

Although, I suppose one may not be allowed to say.

The softness and blurriness of the upscaled image more accurately represents the tears in the soldier's eyes as the horror of war hits him.

XB1 superior confirmed.

Albert, we can PM later to discuss my payment.

 

[mephixto]

Eh Albert can't win either way. He stays silent everyone assumes it's confirmation. He gives a non answe, everyone assumes confirmation. He gives an actual answer, he risks getting in trouble.

Yeah, but it was more simple to say "Sorry guys I'm under NDA, ask Activision" instead he dance around the rumor.

 

[Tallshortman]

I can't.

But then again I'm a casual gamer, not a video phile and sorta just enjoy my media for content. Not to say I don't prefer 1080p but I probably wouldn't notice it without a side by side comparison.

You certainly don't need to be a videophile to notice blurriness in an image. You just need well working eyes. I'm certainly not a videophile.

 

[Coxy]

even if this were true it would still be false.

if this was any more real, it'd be real

 

[Wynnebeck]

I don't fault Albert for not being able to say something. No issue there. He also genuinely seems like a good guy.

But if you don't have anything to say, it's better to just stay silent. Posting a PR filled message is not the best course of action on NeoGaf. People aren't critiquing Albert for not commenting, they're critiquing him for taking the time to comment and adding nothing to the discussion.

Good post. Albert as a person is great, but knowing how incendiary his words can be on GAF, I don't think it's wise to post anything at all and less so if sounds like PR. It would better serve us to get a dev from IW at this point.

 

[MilkBeard]

Eh Albert can't win either way. He stays silent everyone assumes it's confirmation. He gives a non answe, everyone assumes confirmation. He gives an actual answer, he risks getting in trouble.

Not really. Realistically, whenever someone high up gives a non-answer, it usually ends up being true. In this case, Penello may not really know, but making a statement that insn't a confirmation or a denial does more harm than good.

 

[IAmRandom31]

I truly cannot believe we are 5-6 years into 1080p HDTV's being mainstream and we are still seeing threads about not being able to tell the difference between 720p x 1080p.

So now the secret weapon of the X1 is a damn upscaler?

So they knew the system would be so weak as to not display pure 1080p so they included a high powered upscaler like some damn DVD player? GOOD LAWD.

" it does not matter our system cannot display 1080p because see, we have this fucking awesome upscaler, you can't even tell the difference! muwaahahahah "

Good times. This generation is going to be fun. Lotso fun.

 

[RiccochetJ]

So you are honestly telling me that the Microsoft director of product planning has zero idea what the number one selling game on his platform will run at?

You didn't bother to ask anyone? Didn't seem important at all?

Oh you were thinking that Activision has an obligation to tell them even if they asked?

That's cute.

"It will be above your minimum requirements and that's all you need to be worried about"

 

[The Flash]

I'm sorry, I don't like being lied to my face.

It gun b k. The truth will set us free.

 

[omegamars]

Video is even better.

LMAO my lungs!!!!

 

[rdrr gnr]

What's with the ridiculous fucking hyperbole in this thread? Ghosts looks like "shit". Really? Yes, in comparison to Shadow Fall, Ryse, Forza, yeah sure. But in the context of just about every other game (not necessarily next gen) it's graphics are perfectly serviceable.

It's the worst looking cross-gen title. Its art direction is banal and its technical prowess lacking. Shit is apt.

 

[jaaz]

What a shit show this is. Console launches can't come soon enough.

And you think it's going to be any better when both consoles and their games are out and you have DF and others pixel counting? This is just the beginning my friend...

 

[jet1911]

So you are honestly telling me that the Microsoft director of product planning has zero idea what the number one selling game on his platform will run at?

You didn't bother to ask anyone? Didn't seem important at all?

It's not really his job anyway. The guys at Activision/IW should be the ones breaking these kind of news.

 

[FuturusX]

I wouldn't harp too much on Albert not being able to distinguish resolutions. The fact he even came in here to post is admirable.

No it's not. It's silly. MS should not engage in such pointless activity.

He essentially said:

I couldn't tell you if I knew...and I don't know..and er it' doesn't really matter.

He said a whole load of nothing. Then why say anything at all?

 

[Micromegas]

Guys, give Albert a break. I mean what else is he supposed to say? I'm sure it will be good enough for many more casual gamers who don't scrutinize graphics so much.

Guy bald-faced lied about how quiet the original 360 was before it's launch, is he gonna start now? How about dropping the crap and the evasion and come up with some simple honesty?

 

[FINALBOSS]

Oh you were thinking that Activision has an obligation to tell them even if they asked?

That's cute.

"It will be above your minimum requirements and that's all you need to be worried about"

Please tell us the innerworkings of this business since you're obviously clued in.

 

[megabytecr]

Yep. That's what I mean. If I ever get a PS4 I would mostly use it for exclusives as all of my friends will still be on XBL.

The meltdowns are entertaining to me to a degree but for the most part its actually pretty sad. Seeing people get worked up over something that is ultimately so completely and utterly meaningless is depressing sometimes. What country are you from if I may ask?

Costa Rica.
About the meltdowns, I love the Wii U and it has been crazy sometimes here in Gaf. I learned to enjoy them, this is a hobby after all, don't get worked up by this stuff.

Getting CoD Ghosts on Wii U btw, had a blast with Black Ops 2.

Props to Albert for posting here, and I think it is not his job to reveal this stuff.

In the end I think customers are entitled to know what is going on. I am waiting on the launch to see how it all goes but will go PC probably.

 

[Netherscourge]

Welcome back!!!

I was wondering where you were at! Nice to see you again!

 

[stktt]

Thanks to the Depixelizing algorithm.

More info here:
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/kopf/pixelart/

Oh god

 

[FINALBOSS]

Something tells me Microsoft is going to ride their magical scaler so hard this upcoming generation.

 

[statham]

It gun b k. The truth will set us free.

flash, your the best.

 

[Paches]

I wonder if those guys that went to GameStop to tell everyone about DRM that came in the door will go tomorrow and tell them about 720p COD Dogs.

 

[Orayn]

What's with the ridiculous fucking hyperbole in this thread? Ghosts looks like "shit". Really? Yes, in comparison to Shadow Fall, Ryse, Forza, yeah sure. But in the context of just about every other game (not necessarily next gen) it's graphics are perfectly serviceable.

Yeah, I never got this. CoD is pretty drab on both a technical and artistic level, but not outright ugly.

 

[Papercuts]

There is a easy way like "it is 1080p guys".

If he doesn't know, he doesn't know. If someone from activision said the same, then it would be more damning. Similar to Dice dancing around the resolution which to me points at 720xb1/900ps4.

I do think this needs cleared up and he should be able to get a concrete answer atleast.

 

[10k]

I can just imagine the shitstorm on GAF if the WiiU version was 1080p as well.

I would die laughing haha.

 

[Lord Error]

Is this picture real? I can't tell anymore with most of them. I'm curious if they really have some unusually high quality scaler that does some fractal analysis or something? I doubt it's something that advanced, because otherwise Crytek wouldn't scale through their own software scaler, but still.

 

[Krusenstern]

Thanks for the reply. I'm likely only getting a ps4 but it's nice to hear the game looks great on both platforms amid all this craziness.

I'm always reading this. It's getting annoying.

"Game will look great on both platforms"™

Look:

Game looks great on both resolutions!

 

[BadAss2961]

Eh Albert can't win either way. He stays silent everyone assumes it's confirmation. He gives a non answe, everyone assumes confirmation. He gives an actual answer, he risks getting in trouble.

I really don't know why Penello continues to post here in the first place. All he's done is double down on everything XB1 despite the console's inability to meet such expectations. From the moment he made this post about how people who boast the PS4's "alleged" power advantage (as if there isn't one) will die on their own swords, I knew he'd dug his own grave.

Microsoft hitting the forums obviously isn't working. It's only fanned the flames.

 

[fallagin]

Mr. PR didn't ask because he wanted plausible deniability, if he knew then he would have to lie or tell, both are bad for him.

What more telling is he said the game looked great, that is a tall drink of water consider what IGN has shown, game look down right awful. So spin away...

Well, xbone is the next water cooler.

 

[Salex_]

What's with the ridiculous fucking hyperbole in this thread? Ghosts looks like "shit". Really? Yes, in comparison to Shadow Fall, Ryse, Forza, yeah sure. But in the context of just about every other game (not necessarily next gen) it's graphics are perfectly serviceable.

New generation, new standards. Of course it doesn't look like shit(lol) but everyone expects it to clearly look better than last gen.

 

[alr1ght]

Is this picture real? I can't tell anymore with most of them. I'm curious if they really have some unusually high quality scaler that does some fractal analysis or something? I doubt it's something that advanced, because otherwise Crytek wouldn't scale through their own software scaler, but still.

Of course it's fake. However, I believe this is the spin they will use.

 

[FuturusX]

Welcome back!!!

I was wondering where you were at! Nice to see you again!

Leave the Saturn out of this. Any console that gave us Panzer Dragoon Saga and Nights is alright in my book...

If the Xbox One has anything like Panzer Dragoon Saga in it's ranks...I'd buy it Day One.

 

[aly]

It gun b k. The truth will set us free.

Man, that scene was touching. The Flash is such a good buddy

This rumor is pretty concerning though.

 

[Xhenxhefil]

So what we can glean from all of this is that the additional pixels are tied to a Dewritos™ promotion? Every 2l bottle of Mountain Dew™ or Large bag of Doritos™ earns you two hours of full 1080p, powered exclusively by the Cloud!

 

[Aztechnology]

Is this picture real? I can't tell anymore with most of them. I'm curious if they really have some unusually high quality scaler that does some fractal analysis or something? I doubt it's something that advanced, because otherwise Crytek wouldn't scale through their own software scaler, but still.

No its user created by gaffers. Just comedy gold, enjoy it.

 

[MilkBeard]

What's with the ridiculous fucking hyperbole in this thread? Ghosts looks like "shit". Really? Yes, in comparison to Shadow Fall, Ryse, Forza, yeah sure. But in the context of just about every other game (not necessarily next gen) it's graphics are perfectly serviceable.

Technically you are correct, but it does look bad, and is probably the worst looking cross-gen game.

Also, considering that Call of Duty is one of the highest selling series in gaming right now, it's pretty disappointing just how lackluster the game looks.