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RUMOUR: Xbox One version of Call of Duty: Ghosts is 720p, PS4 version is 1080p?

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Current drivers.

I doubt that is the problem, though it is probably contributing. If your getting over 720P it's not going to be done with automation through drivers alone. It's going to require specific to the bone programming to take it up to 900p. I think they thought they could bite off more than will be able to deliver with the limited size...

Then again, they have people far more skilled than I am.... It's just not realistic.

Then again maybe Microsoft is the realistic one...and I'm just not high on the cloud.
 

Mahonay

Banned
Isn't ps4 running BF4 at 900p?
People are guessing 720p XB1, 900p PS4 for BF4. That's been parsed from some of the things DICE have said. Of course it's all been vague as all of this has been, not wanting to name which console has a lower res.

BF4 is also a far more resource intensive game.
 

UNCMark

Banned
Anyone that watches the NFL knows what different resolutions look like. Watch the NFL on CBS and then switch to Fox NFL. Huge difference.
 
Supposedly. But that's also a much more resource intensive game than Ghosts.

People are guessing 720p XB1, 900p PS4 for BF4. That's been parsed with some of the things DICE have said. Of course it's all been vague as all of this has been, not wanting to name which console has a lower res.

BF4 is the more resource intensive game but for some reason Ghosts has the higher recommended specs
 

TEH-CJ

Banned
Albert Penello:

"People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard API’s that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think we don’t know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way we’re giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference – it would be obvious.

I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony claims more power, they did it with Cell, they did it with Emotion Engine, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, games on our system looked the same or better.

I’m not saying they haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ power advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years… "


Lmao what a load of shit.
 

daveo42

Banned
do you think resolution is only thing that affects graphics? XB1 will likely have a lot better iq, effects and textures.

as to the PS4 vs XB1... who needs exclusives?

If you looked that most recent trailer, you can see that the iq for CoD is going to be shit, mainly because they are running this as a cross-gen game. I can sort of give a pass here, but really, everything will most likely be the same between the two games from that standpoint (except maybe PC, who knows at this point).

So, no way is Xbox going add bells and whistles while dropping the resolution. They just cannot run it at 60fps and 1080p, meaning the supposed downgrade.

Pretty simple, if the rumor is really true.
 

Derpcrawler

Member
Ahh, did not know that was the case in regards to the dev teams being assigned to Titalfall.
Also, Glam. That seems quite a plausible explanation in regards to resource distribution. Larger install base on current gen consoles, yet do not want to miss out on next gen train.

How many platforms is this game releasing on anyway?

They wasn't assigned to Titanfall, they left Activision and Infinity Ward after whole MW2 royalties fiasco and formed new studio - Respawn, EA picked them up and are publishing Titanfall. They have nothing to do with anything CoD related since MW2.
 
Ok reddit.


I like you. Well, not the xbox one subreddit, because you deleted my post, but in general i've been a lurker at reddit for about 3 years now.


Here are the answers I gave to the questions in the post you deleted. Because my answers were so full of controversy I totally get it. Well, if you hate that I say "but" about 19 times in the first answer and you deleted it because of that I actually support that. I hate myself for it.


Anyway, hopefully the gaf mods will keep this post here because I actually answer questions with answers which I know is weird in this hobby of ours.

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I've had a bit of wine. Seems like a good time for some vita in bed. Yes, Vita. It fucking rules. Eat it.
 

CookTrain

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I want to know who the first major site is to report this is. Fear of an Activision or Microsoft blacklist is pretty goddamn huge.

Is there an inverse of the prisoners dilemma? I think as soon as anyone gets a sniff of the story getting out on one mainline site, they'll all come tumbling along.
 

BigDug13

Member
Ahh, did not know that was the case in regards to the dev teams being assigned to Titalfall.
Also, Glam. That seems quite a plausible explanation in regards to resource distribution. Larger install base on current gen consoles, yet do not want to miss out on next gen train.

How many platforms is this game releasing on anyway?

Well I wouldn't say dev "teams" got moved to Titanfall, but let's just say IW's top guys and Activision had lawyers between them for a bit. Not sure what shape IW is in now.

Looks like half their team resigned after Activision fired the top guys for insubordination:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_Ward#Dismissal_of_senior_employees

Most of them probably ended up at Respawn so the people making Titanfall are the main devs responsible for the best CoD games.
 

Dysun

Member
Took a break from this thread to play Pokemon, return and the CBOAT has dropped truthfacts regarding Titfall, and Penello's job description

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I want to know who the first major site is to report this is. Fear of an Activision or Microsoft blacklist is pretty goddamn huge.

Shit like this is why videogame journalism is a joke most of the time. If there's news to report they should be able to report it freely (as long as they didn't break any NDAs themselves, of course).
 

Coiote

Member
Ok reddit.


I like you. Well, not the xbox one subreddit, because you deleted my post, but in general i've been a lurker at reddit for about 3 years now.


Here are the answers I gave to the questions in the post you deleted. Because my answers were so full of controversy I totally get it. Well, if you hate that I say "but" about 19 times in the first answer and you deleted it because of that I actually support that. I hate myself for it.


Anyway, hopefully the gaf mods will keep this post here because I actually answer questions with answers which I know is weird in this hobby of ours.








I've had a bit of wine. Seems like a good time for some vita in bed. Yes, Vita. It fucking rules. Eat it.

So, as far as you know, the ps4 version is 1080p. Interesting, but fishy. It would be nice if you could get another source on this. Well, the game looks like ass on the PS4, 1080p or not.
 

Metfanant

Member
So, as far as you know, the ps4 version is 1080p. Interesting, but fishy. It would be nice if you could get another source on this. Well, the game looks like ass on the PS4, 1080p or not.

was the IGN dude blatantly saying that all of their footage being shown was running on a PS4 in 1080p not enough??
 

madmackem

Member
Wow i looked at this thread last night, went to watch football and went to bed, got up this morning and boooom. 720p truthfacts everywhere, running a game like cod at 720p at launch would be crazy and not a good sign for third party on xboxone.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
So, as far as you know, the ps4 version is 1080p. Interesting, but fishy. It would be nice if you could get another source on this. Well, the game looks like ass on the PS4, 1080p or not.
I wouldn't say it looks like ass. It looks like Call of Duty, as in, no real tangible upgrades are present. The games have always looked reasonably OK on the PC and, if the PS4 version is 1080p, it should still be a better experience as it will now look like the PC versions of these games on a console. Still, it's quite clear that they weren't interesting in really pushing their technology forward just yet.

Battlefield 4 looks so dramatically better across the board, though.

I'm getting a vita soon...I like the OLED, but that Slim is looking mighty appealing.
Once you've become used to the hardware the different design will hardly matter. The OLED makes a WORLD of difference. The LCD looks terrible in comparison.
 

FootballFan

Member
They wasn't assigned to Titanfall, they left Activision and Infinity Ward after whole MW2 royalties fiasco and formed new studio - Respawn, EA picked them up and are publishing Titanfall. They have nothing to do with anything CoD related since MW2.

Thanks for clearing that up, I was aware of the legal action at the time but did not know that those same people left and formed Respawn.

Well I wouldn't say dev "teams" got moved to Titanfall, but let's just say IW's top guys and Activision had lawyers between them for a bit. Not sure what shape IW is in now.

Looks like half their team resigned after Activision fired the top guys for insubordination:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_Ward#Dismissal_of_senior_employees

An amazing episode that was.

I've had a bit of wine. Seems like a good time for some vita in bed. Yes, Vita. It fucking rules. Eat it.

Vita is life. I was just playing a bit of Tekken X Streetfighter on it. And no, eating electronics upsets my stomach.
 
I wouldn't say it looks like ass. It looks like Call of Duty, as in, no real tangible upgrades are present. The games have always looked reasonably OK on the PC and, if the PS4 version is 1080p, it should still be a better experience as it will now look like the PC versions of these games on a console. Still, it's quite clear that they weren't interesting in really pushing their technology forward just yet.

Battlefield 4 looks so dramatically better across the board, though.


Once you've become used to the hardware the different design will hardly matter. The OLED makes a WORLD of difference. The LCD looks terrible in comparison.

BF4 is the big winner in all of this. I think EA can finally have a realistic chance at overtaking COD
 

IRQ

Banned
This is just embarrassing MS. I love the XBOX and its my main gaming console, But this is just embarrassing . This is 2013 for crying out loud. If you were set for a 2014 launch you should have sticked to that. There is no reason to rush into a marked with a half product when your competitor is 100% ready.

People are not stupid anymore, Even the average joe knows about graphics,resolution, Etc.

You have rushed to launch the console this year because you were afraid of losing some marketshare, But what you don't understad is that you have already lost more by damaging the Xbox name. You have lost the marketshare and the future fans.

Any wise person at MS should have delayed the console the moment they saw the PS4 announcment. There is no reason for this suicide mission. The PS3 launched one year later and look how it turned out, There is just no shame in it.


Am sorry MS, Right now I gotta consider what's the best value for me. I am a big XBOX fan, I love the xbox and have been with it since the OG. But am also a gamer. And as a gamer I can't see myself paying more for an inferior product.

To bad MS, This is just to fucking bad.
 

Plasma

Banned
I had this preordered for the Xbox One, cancelled it now.

I'll just stick with the PC version, I was going to double dip to have a MP shooter to play at launch but I can live without it I guess.
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
At least X1 fans will be able to get the multiplayer map packs earlier!

It's just a pity that when MS were striking this deal they didn't ask about resolution.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
BF4 is the big winner in all of this. I think EA can finally have a realistic chance at overtaking COD
Very possibly. The new consoles can finally deliver the proper BF experience with visuals that far outstrip CoD while operating at the same framerate. CoD is going to look old and busted next to Battlefield.

While multiplayer is obviously where it's at for both games, I'm really hoping DICE can deliver a good single player experience this time as well.
 
Took a break from this thread to play Pokemon, return and the CBOAT has dropped truthfacts regarding Titfall, and Penello's job description

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My life. You've lived it...now this thread is distracting me too much from pokemangs...and a school project....
 
This is just embarrassing MS. I love the XBOX and its my main gaming console, But this is just embarrassing . This is 2013 for crying out loud. If you were set for a 2014 launch you should have sticked to that. There is no reason to rush into a marked with a half product when your competitor is 100% ready.

People are not stupid anymore, Even the average joe knows about graphics,resolution, Etc.

You have rushed to launch the console this year because you were afraid of losing some marketshare, But what you don't understad is that you have already lost more by damaging the Xbox name. You have lost the marketshare and the future fans.

Any wise person at MS should have delayed the console the moment they saw the PS4 announcment. There is no reason for this suicide mission. The PS3 launched one year later and look how it turned out, There is just no shame in it.


Am sorry MS, Right now I gotta consider what's the best value for me. I am a big XBOX fan, I love the xbox and have been with it since the OG. But am also a gamer. And as a gamer I can't see myself paying more for an inferior product.

To bad MS, This is just to fucking bad.
Your not the only one, I am with you.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Suddenly the Drive Club delay does not seem so bad in the grand scheme of things.

I have to imagine this is just an issue with the current "tools" available to devs. I remember hearing they hard not refined them at all... and Sony had their tools ready and available. That is what the 6+ month delay was about that leaked a couple months ago.... at least I think. I believe the Xbox One is completely capable of doing 1080p (as well as the PS4); However currently the only game that has been confirmed 1080p (Forza) is a first party with direct access to the tools Microsoft is refining as they refine them..... all the 3rd party games (Ryse, COD) seem to be limited in resolution... (potentially do to this fact?)

That is my guess anyway. Still sucks, but I believe it will get better after launch. (Perhaps not 1:1 as the GPU is still weaker than the PS4, but multi platform games may narrow)

This seems fair. But if it takes them 6-12 months to sort out their tools (and for devs to get the advantage from them), then they can lose a ton of momentum from launch through to next fall. By the time they narrow that gap, Xbox one could already be the one to avoid in consumers minds.

The comments from proelite about the state of the OS don't sound good either.
 

Sinthor

Gold Member
Wow. If this is really true...wow. I would imagine it is. Either that or a whole lot of "insiders" got some things terribly wrong. All the dodging is pretty odd too. Less than a month till this stuff comes out. Actual specs and performance should be known...these launch games pretty much have to be gold by now and going into manufacturing, don't they?
 

Coiote

Member
was the IGN dude blatantly saying that all of their footage being shown was running on a PS4 in 1080p not enough??

to me, it wasn't enough.

You can see my reasons on this post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87124111&postcount=4278

I wouldn't say it looks like ass. It looks like Call of Duty, as in, no real tangible upgrades are present. The games have always looked reasonably OK on the PC and, if the PS4 version is 1080p, it should still be a better experience as it will now look like the PC versions of these games on a console. Still, it's quite clear that they weren't interesting in really pushing their technology forward just yet.

Battlefield 4 looks so dramatically better across the board, though.

Well, the PC version is rumored to have better textures. The PS4 version being 1080p doesn't really put it in equal footing, but it's nice to hear.

The reason am I am a bit skeptical towards the PS4 version being 1080p is because I now believe the Xb1's one is really 720p. I know the PS4 is indeed more powerful, but not that much. If it's really true, this game is a even more lazy effort by the publisher(not really blaming the devs) than I previously believed.
 

B.O.O.M

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Phil Spencer
non
answer about the rumor
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https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/392870527510921216

yep..I mean what are the chances one of the main people behind a big new product that's launching real soon would know about some performance info about the games that are going to be the biggest sellers on said console

Like I said before either confirm it/deny it or just keep silent. These kinds of responses will do nothing but harm
 
So definitely not IGN.

what happens when a big publication get black listed? when the readers ask why there isn't a review do they make it known a publisher isn't happy with a story/review?

in my eyes, that's just more bad press for the publisher. I think the big guys are ok, it's the small sites that need to be more tactful with their reporting.
 
Well, the attitude around here lately is overwhelmingly pro-PS4 and anti-Xbone, so...

Once again, the attitude is pro-gamer, pro-value, and pro-consumer. It is anti-BS, anti-"spin", anti-lies.

Even as a lurker up until this year I could see that. So right now the PS4 is fitting into the former category and the XB1 is fitting into the latter category. Last gen for a long time the tables were turned. People have such short memories...
 
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