Sword Of Doom
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Sage is among the Gaf elite lol
Get rid of that. Got the other thread closed
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Adam Boyes Confirms: Call of Duty: Ghosts is Native 1080p on PS4
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Sage is among the Gaf elite lol
Get rid of that. Got the other thread closed
SRTtoZ
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Edit that and remove the image,trust me.
RedAssedApe
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the previous thread was locked because of that. so umm...yeah you should take that elsewhere lol
boredandlazy
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This crap already got one thread closed. Keep it away.
Hi Guys,
I heard today that my name was mentioned over here and I wanted to give you a fuller version of my views than Twitter allows:
There was a publisher preview event on the PS4 this week dont ask, I can name who, if I thought that it would impact your end experience I would- and there was some issues around connectivity. This is probably not going to be a big deal for launch and my guess is that it is going to be solved by the launch.
The press are alluding to the fact that said publisher has emailed them basically saying Dont even admit that there was a preview event.
I would like to breakout some other points though.
Launches:
It is my belief that both consoles will have day one patches, I reckon both will be large, but not to the extent that they will take days to download.
Both consoles are world class; they really are fantastic machines Admittedly I have only played with the Xbox One Retail, but I spent a long time on the PS4 dev kit. Do I think that the first few months will be a pain in the ass at times for both consoles? Sure! Thats tech for ya.
I think during the first quarter of 2014 both console houses will have teams working and on site 24X7. Well, small correction, I know Xbox already have that planned and I assume Sony will do the same, as it makes sense to have that redundancy in place.
However, this is a long game plan, PS and Xbox want to blow you away for the next ten years or so. They know that launching a new architecture in going to be tough, but I reckon they will both figure it out shortly.
Res:
1080P or 720?
Right now most outlets are capturing in 720. So you play the game at 1080P and capture at 720 to reduce the bandwidth needed for the upload/download. This is 100% up to the publisher and NOT the console guys.
The logic here is that more people will be inclined to upload smaller files, thus more eyeballs.
I have played a single game in 1080P. If a publisher decides to go that route, they just hate money and you as gamers should punish them for it by not buying their game. $60? As a gamer I say NO THANKS DAD, I AM A 1080P THUG.
Coverage and video:
I am 100% sure that Microsoft will get a ton more coverage than Sony. There is no conspiracy theory here, the simple truth is that Sony are providing one debug unit to one video outlet in North America (I dont know about the rest of the world) and only a select few wordy/written/text based outlets.
And before the question is asked, I dont actually know why Sony doesnt want established video outlets to have access to video footage of their console before or after launch. It has never been done before.
In my mind this is a huge mistake and I seriously doubt that, that decision was made in SCEA, but rather at the HQ in Japan. The folks over there need to settle down and have a box of juice or something, because as someone that develops games, I want to get in front of as many eyeballs as possible.
I dont know the reason behind this, but I do know that it is like giving Xbox a free advertisement on every 3rd party game review until Sony completes their inevitable ../Drum Roll 180.
The other reason behind this is that until Sony allows video capture with unrestricted HDCP, reviewers wont actually be able to review third party games on the PS4 as they will want to do post production.
That said, Sony are not stupid, they have already said that they will remove the HDCP restrictions to paraphrase We get it, you want this and we will resolve this issue after launch.
In the meantime, any blogger, youtuber or video reviewer will be able to slap an Elgato capture card on their Xbox One and do their reviews on the Xbox SKU.
Hence, free ads
I really, really hope Sony HQ comes to their senses on this, because this was just stupid on their part and I know a LOT of SCEA guys who are frustrated.
On the flip side with the Xbox you can capture from day one.
Actually you can capture on both devices on day one, but if you want to do post production i.e. voiceover or edits as most journos need to do, hence the video element of the review- you have to use the Xbox.
Embargoes:
I have seen a few stupid tweets saying that Sony, MSFT or both of them are issuing embargoes on 3rd party titles.
To be clear; neither Kaz nor Balmer can tell a publisher what to have for lunch, never mind tell them what they can do with their game. That is just stupid talk.
Long-Story short for developers:
I have two dogs in this race, I want both consoles to succeed because that means that I make more money and then I can make more games. I also dont want a monopoly, both devs and gamers lose out on that score. Less games will be made.
That said, right now I am pro-Xbox from a developer perspective and I know a lot of my fellow devs feel the same way.
The reason for this is not because Steve Balmer makes my toes curl, its just a simple case of economics:
Developer costs using a smallish studio as an example:
Xbox One Dev Kits 10 X $500.00= $5,000.00
Sony PS4 Dev kits 10X $2,500.00= $25,000.00
So from day one that represents $20,000.00 more that I can put into the game, I know that might now sound like much, but for a small team that is HUGE.
It lowers the barrier of entry to make a game, it might work, it might not. It worked out well for Apple though.
In fairness, Sony has been great at lending developers dev kits and that is fantastic because that costs me zilch. HOWEVER, that doesnt scale, they cant give that to every dev in the world. They cant give that to the kid in Iowa who is mashing the keys in his moms basement making a game that is going to blow us away.
Make no mistake about it, the features of both boxes will mean very little, its going to be all about the games that we can play.
/SuperClicheMode: Content is king.
Anyway, all of this talk about winning and losing is BS ultimately, Xbox will find their audience and Sony theirs.
At the end of the day you WANT both of them to succeed as that will force them to fight for your eyeballs. Everyone benefits from an all-out fight for your eyeballs.
The bottom-line here is that the stronger the ecosystem is the better the games will be, as more companies will invest their money to make games better.
99.999999% of devs want nothing more than to make you happy and make money in doing so.
Anyway, thats my 2cents guys, I did proof this so bite me
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
i agree with most of this post but with the indie thing. one if xbox indie makes so much more sense how do they have no indies at launch... its a reactionary move and the proof is in the pudding imo
ThoseDeafMutes
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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LOL
Please don't get another thread locked with that image.
BlastKiller
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What if 720p looks much better than 1080p, when 720p has more aa and grafic fx on the XBone. GT5 comes to mind.
That's definitely not the case here.
hydragonwarrior
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NO MORE 4CHAN PLEASE. That's what got the last thread locked!
BasketCasket
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Where was it ever stated that the xbox version would have more AA and Effects?
This post goes against absolutely everything we know about the technical specs of both machines. If 720p would produce a better looking product; why wouldn't they take that approach for both platforms?
bigboss370
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this please.
RedAssedApe
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Are you talking about GT6 versus GT5?
Salvor.Hardin
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Nice spin. The better hardware is still cheaper. If ps4 was more expensive, then your argument might hold some weight.
Well 900p v 720p would still indicate significantly better hardware....so yeah, try again...
BlastKiller
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Because the screaming for 1080p, at all it costs, from the Sony side.
Sure we want to have the best native reslution for our tvs, but i think its too soon in the gen for that. Maybe next year.
No. Only GT5. But bad example i guess.
That's some guess on the day 1 patch , can't wait for MS and Sony to conf.....oh.
As for Microsoft apparently having free advertising for every third party title ; We have Polygon saying the PS4 embargo ends the 5th and their PS4 and current gen AC4 review goes up then and that we have to wait till the 12th for XO reviews so...
quick question. how many people here on gaf feel that game journalism has seriously got too intertwined with the game publishers and devs? this is something which has been brought up a couple of times but from my about 4 months on gaf now this seems to be the elephant in the room. how people have to provide leaks almost to the extent of national secret leaks vs political posturing .... and don't get me wrong, but lets just compare the movie industry to the gaming one . in the movie industry you are free to express your opinions strongly on reviews ... there are many outlets ... leaks on plots are fair game .... is the gaming industry reporting and journalism just too intertwined with the industry in general and does this need to change? in my opinion the answer to both is yes. what do you all feel?
the disconcerting thing on all this to me is i have to read forums like gaf to get to the meat and bottom of things ... rather than trust the press like i do on almost anything else ... and as i mentioned the press isnt always reliable but its on stuff like politics and national issues where there is a lot going on and a labrinth of issues .... games and consoles cant be allowed the same leway can they?
the disconcerting thing on all this to me is i have to read forums like gaf to get to the meat and bottom of things ... rather than trust the press like i do on almost anything else ... and as i mentioned the press isnt always reliable but its on stuff like politics and national issues where there is a lot going on and a labrinth of issues .... games and consoles cant be allowed the same leway can they?
plasmawave
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But the Order is 1920 x 800.
Salvor.Hardin
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If the choice is between getting a console with a better UI experience, Kinect, and (what is looking to be) a better exclusive AAA lineup until the end of 2014, and a console that has minimal resolution differences in a couple of multiplat games a year, I know which console I'll be getting first.
You started with 'quick question'...
i know... i just wanted to get the general vibe of gaffers on this. maybe this deserves a thread by itself where we can try and change this ... if enough ppl feel the way i do ... maybe a real discussion on the issue is warranted.
might want to ask CBOAT and Bish about that before you go making any assumptions...though I'm not sure if Bish has internet in the fallout shelter...
It warrants discussion (and has been discussed before). This may not be the right thread, though. There is an active thread right now that you should definitely contribute to.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=704881
Will post my thoughts there in the morning.
shinra-bansho
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This. This so much.
So is the conclusion to this non-story basically game "journalists" unhappy that they won't all be able to review the system and games prior to release, except at the review event?
Salvor.Hardin
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I guess we'll find out soon enough. Haven't read about the ui problems anywhere else. The console has been available to use in several venues through out the States and the UK and I've only read glowing impressions.
Perhaps CBOAT has incorrect or outdated information?
Better UI experience? How do you know that?
It warrants discussion (and has been discussed before). This may not be the right thread, though. There is an active thread right now that you should definitely contribute to.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=704881
Will post my thoughts there in the morning.
oh thanks for the link. i just refreshed all my tabs didnt see the new topics.... yeah no ill post there too ... this seems to really be the legitimate issue on these things
boredandlazy
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When you find a console that meets that criteria feel free to let everyone know.
gundamkyoukai
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BF4 being 900p i think most of us saw that coming .
I see that both CBOAT and mort laying the law down .
Also when it comes to the press i really don't care what happens to most of them .
Call me bitter but after all that happen this year that is how i become .
I see that both CBOAT and mort laying the law down .
Also when it comes to the press i really don't care what happens to most of them .
Call me bitter but after all that happen this year that is how i become .
Salvor.Hardin
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The ui navigation videos for the respective consoles have been out for a while. Also, with Sony not allowing the user to change wallpapers, I wouldn't expect too much from them in ways of software. They didn't deliver as well as MS did on the currentgen consoles, and I don't see that trend changing.
madmaxx350
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Why am I not surprised at your stand on this lol. Well I guess you are entitled to your opinion so nvm
ConteZero76
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Yep, baked ui navigation videos have been out for a while.
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kriskrosbbk
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Can anyone link me to thuway's post confirming this.much appreciated
GetemMa
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Sony allows you change the wallpaper. They don't allow custom wallpaper and by all accounts neither does MS on Xbone.
Why wouldn't you "expect too much from them" software wise? They had WAY more exclusives this gen than MS and have more 1st party studios.
Didn't deliver as well as MS? Debatable. What they didn't do was put out a console with a 40% failure rate.
check out his twitter.
travisbickle
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You said yesterday you would willingly eat crow if there was big differences between the two consoles. If you don't think there will be big differences why are you being such a disingenuous prat in here?
Salvor.Hardin
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You should reread what you quoted. I wrote 'despite what I'm told is significantly better hardware'.
Now don't you feel silly about the namecalling? How immature.
robertsan21
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eh was it not confirmed that PS4 will do 1080p Native? I am lost again, whats going on?
BritBloke916
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