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famousmortimer: Xbox One OS and Xbox Live issues bouncing about as we approach launch

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Mahonay

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Potential blame? Didn't CBOAT confirm that people outside the Xbox division had been meddling with damn near everything? "fact"
I don't remember the cboat sources personally, thus I just said "potentially". But thanks dude, helps prove my point further.
 
I also find gafs constant use of this vague, evil sounding term "suits" hilarious, if not totally off the mark. I am one of these people, technically, (work corp. finance), and I will say that these people making decisions are waaaaaay more savvy than y'all give them credit.

I think you're missing the point
 
Still haven't read anything in here... my wife just turned old (aka the same age as me) and everything is exploding at once which was my master plan all along even though I pay for my website/podcast.

Anyway, the source I've been talking to has read this. He said...


"If anyone wants to know why I didn't report this earlier to an insider, its because I didn't think it had a chance to be there at launch.

Like others have said, these things have issues up to launch. But I was buying into the "they'll have it fixed in time" like everyone else. Then when the architecture for XBL on X1 was explained to me, and where they were at with fixing issues, and what else was waiting to pop up and I heard what others were going through, I realized that it wouldn't be fixed. It still might, but it looks bad from this angle."

And evidently "matt" verified something. I don't know who matt is and I don't know what her verified. But that's what my source says. It's fucking hard to keep up with this shit.

While I'm feeling surly. #PS4NoDRM - you guys write about it and have podcasts about it, and - yes - I remember all that said we were hopeless.

Cod 720p - Sure seemed to be a topic on podcasts this weekend. CheapyD confirmed it several days later and Gies responded to him about how it likely won't be fixed.

Right now Ben Kuchera is telling everyone to doubt me. Most who don't follow this forum probably are. People who do follow this forum know I had the ps4 reveal, the xb1 reveal, the xb1 e3 (12/15 games!), the ps4 reveal, the only person on this forum going against cboat/etc that the PS4 wasn't launching in October, the driveclub delay, cod 720p... any now this.

So was it a long con? Did I get inside info on all of that shit so I could screw everyone at the very last second? I would almost believe that if it wasn't sony. They aren't that competent. I actually offered myself, sexually(not sexually), to Adam Boyes early last summer and he said "You aren't qualified."

I'm not. But evidently I can still do some shit from out here. And I'm so goddamn poor Im selling off my ps4/xbox1 preorders that I made on day one that I won't get. Yeah, I'm that guy.


Anyway, when this is also correct, and we'll wait till the end of november for that to happen, if you're going to base your website/podcast on what I say you can just reach out to me. My fucking email in everywhere. I get 1900000 spam messages a day, just to keep it open to people. I think I just won a million british pounds. But the point is that if you're going to talk about what I bring up... talk to me. I'm smart-ish. Im slightly funny. I also don't make a penny off of any of this. My blog is on wordpress, the ads give them money. My podcast, like wordpress, costs money. So I spend about $300 a year doing what I do. This year I've gotten a lot of donations (thank you if you're reading!) which cover this year but not all years. Not that I think all years should be covered. I'm not great at making podcasts (or good... mediocre, maybe?).

My email is blowing up. I have about 100 comments to read - not tonight, to be truthful I started drinking heavily after posting. I'm anxious, you guys kinda scare me. But I'll read the comments. And the tweets. And if I see links in from n4g or reddit or 4chan or wherever I'll read all of that as well. I always do. Does that make me egotistical? Or paranoid? Or drunk?

Everyone spewing bullshit at me - lets talk on November 22nd. It's a deal.

Mort my man. Relax. It's not that serious.
 
Ok... this is getting a bit silly. Will Sony get similar scorn if their OS and online features aren't 100% polished? These consoles are coming in hot with hardware solidified two months ago and software that is still getting beta tested. There will be issues... on both sides of the fence.

Still.. it is funny to see MS mess up.

Yes but it is all relative to the closet competitor unless the fuckupery is of massive proportion on both

There will be problems on both but the general feeling from insiders push to MS's launch mess up to be of quite epic proportions.
 

UNCMark

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With, everyday that passes, i think this is becoming more and more likely... hmmmm....

I can't say I haven't been considering getting a Wii U with Mario 3D. I'm keeping my PS4 pre-order. As long as it can get online long enough to grab Resogun, I'm good with them having all the problems in the world for a month or two or three. My Xbox One pre-order has been tenuous at best since the price+mandatory Kinect were announced. It's only gotten worse since.
 

FDC1

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Could it be the "stupid reason" why we are not supposed to see any X1 review anytime soon? The games, specially ones with multi, would be "unreviewable" right now?
 
I want to know what bish knows for which he went in the bunker and left us alone here :/

Wait, bish learned something that made him go into the bunker?

ron-swanson-computer-throw-out-parks-and-rec.gif
 
Ok... this is getting a bit silly. Will Sony get similar scorn if their OS and online features aren't 100% polished? These consoles are coming in hot with hardware solidified two months ago and software that is still getting beta tested. There will be issues... on both sides of the fence.

Still.. it is funny to see MS mess up.

I think the biggest problem here is that Sony has something thats broken (PS3) and they're trying to fix it. You see less backlash in situations like this.

Microsoft had something that was beyond fixed (360). It was almost perfect and people just wanted the exact same experience but more prettier games and bigger games. They have failed in almost all aspects that mattered to gamers (XBL 2.0 being an upgrade and not a downgrade; Games @ 1080p and not 720p, etc). This is why there is a backlash because they have screwed us since the beginning of the announcement with the whole DRM bullshit, and now the 720p crap and now the lackluster XBL.

That and Sony is quiet smart about keeping hush hush about the cons of PS4. We all know there will be cons, we just have to wait.

Is there a way to check posts-per-minute because, man, this thing keeps movin' like a bullet train.

1625/167 = 9.730538922155689 posts per minute.
 

Codeblew

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with all respect to the OP. not gonna argue if he is correct or not since its pointless to do so when we do not have any official conformation. however, i am one of those guys who believe most things will be sorted out by release date.

you have to remember they can work till the 22th when they release the update for the system.

i am not saying everything will be so smooth. but if everyone thinking the ps4 will be smooth online day one, then he is highly mistaken.

usually it takes some time to sort things out/bugs etc. specially when there is no public beta test for the software.

all i know that MS is a software company. and whatever you wanna accept or not, they are good at it. so i have a faith things will be sorted out.

A month is not always long enough to fix problems in software development. I am working on a project that was supposed to go in on July 1st. It has been delayed several times because the integration tests between all of the systems have not passed. We have delayed 2 more times since and now it is looking like we will finally go live in early December.

This is a small scale project vs. a console launch. Apparently the XB1 OS isn't even final and you have 3rd party devs trying to code to a moving target. This doesn't sound like good news.

Also, you can't just force people to work overtime. It will help some but you are not going to get 2x productivity out of a dev by making him work 16 hour days. Sorry, not happening.
 

Foffy

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So...was this the megaton cboat and Bish knew about, or something else about this system?

What a mess. This has been one of the worst system reveals and launch sprints I think I have ever seen for a platform .
 
The more I hear about this stuff the more pissed off I get. This was the longest generation for video games. The Xbox 360 has been out for 8 years. They've had an extra 3 years to get everything ready, this should be the least flawed console launch ever but somehow MS is fumbling everything. We keep hearing about how they aren't ready, the dev tools aren't close to being done now the live functionality isn't even completed. I don't understand how they could possibly have an excuse for this.
 
I'm suprised more mods haven't commented on whether this is the bunker buster or not

There is no way bish and kev haven't seen this thread

I don't want to take their lack of comments as telling but well it kind of is

Has the only mod to post yet been m0dous?
 
LOL! Come on now. You're giving yourself more credit than you deserve. This is a hobby that we all share and a console is going to be buggy at launch. Big whoop. This isn't some life changing information that you're letting loose to world.

Relax. Go to sleep.

This is a hobby where people send death threats when their favorite digital weapon is rebalanced. Putting yourself out there has to be very stressful.
 

h1nch

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I also find gafs constant use of this vague, evil sounding term "suits" hilarious, if not totally off the mark. I am one of these people, technically, (work corp. finance), and I will say that these people making decisions are waaaaaay more savvy than y'all give them credit.

I've worked with a lot of product managers and witnessed a lot of bad engineering/technical decisions similar to what's been described here.

A lot of times its not about people being dumb or incompetent or evil, but companies that are run the way Microsoft is run have a bad habit of putting the wrong people in these critical decision-making roles. You end up having non-technical people making business decisions which have big time consequences from an engineering/architecture perspective and the results can be pretty bad.
 

Rich!

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So...was this the megaton cboat and Bish knew about, or something else about this system?

What a mess. This has been one of the worst system reveals and launch sprints I think I have ever seen for a platform .

The fact that we even have to wonder that question proves just how insanely bad this launch is.
 
So...was this the megaton cboat and Bish knew about, or something else about this system?

What a mess. This has been one of the worst system reveals and launch sprints I think I have ever seen for a platform .

This is probably a multi-stage bomb.
If the OS is so unstable here it could be a huge mess all around.
 
The more I hear about this stuff the more pissed off I get. This was the longest generation for video games. The Xbox 360 has been out for 8 years. They've had an extra 3 years to get everything ready, this should be the least flawed console launch ever but somehow MS is fumbling everything. We keep hearing about how they aren't ready, the dev tools aren't close to being done now the live functionality isn't even completed. I don't understand how they could possibly have an excuse for this.

It's our fault. We weren't ready for DRM
 

GetemMa

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I'm sorry to do this but I'm having a hard time getting through at these pages and figuring out what is new info.

I take it the current rumor is that XBL might be a broken mess for months.

Beyond this and the 720p stuff, is there anything else?

Anything regarding Sony?
 

darkwing

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I'm sorry to do this but I'm having a hard time getting through at these pages and figuring out what is new info.

I take it the current rumor is that XBL might be a broken mess for months.

Beyond this and the 720p stuff, is there anything else?

Anything regarding Sony?

well Sony has the Day 1 patch and still doesn't have suspend resume thingy like the Vita
 

Rich!

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Imagine if the Xbone launched with an OS on the same level as the Wii U (not in terms of features, but in terms of responsiveness, bugs, etc). We already know there's going to be a massive day one patch (like the Wii U). What else?

As someone who unfortunately brought a Wii U at launch, I feel bad for anyone getting the Xbone at launch.
 
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