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New Gran Turismo 6 trailers [Complete blowout: All cars/tracks/features/etc]

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p3tran

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OmegaDL50 said:
Yes, however I was talking about Forza 3's car list in comparison to GT5.

I never played Forza 4 so I can't count it.

I enjoyed Forza 3 and I hear Forza 4 is even better, how they went from that to Forza 5 confirmed information is unsettling.

Well at least I have GT6 to hold me over until Turn10 possibly turns things around in Forza 6, or Gran Turismo 7 comes out and it doesn't matter.

Either way I still get a nice car game out of it.
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forza 4 is much better than forza 3 in ALL aspects.
the most important (for me) being the improved physics (much better than f3, where they seemed to care mainly to get the cockpits out),
and also the total number of cars is quite higher, reaching over 650 cars (including dlc)
while keeping the same even distribution between continents.

if you are skipping forza 5, and still have your 360, I suggest you get f4 along with gt6.
 
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Red Chocobo

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That's quite a complicated roof design. For a car roof.

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Red Chocobo

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saladine1 said:
Do we know how many premiums there are yet?
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According to the list, just over 400.

But there are no longer "Standard" or "Premium" cars according to Kaz. But cars with full cockpit and those with a "Simplified" cockpit.

It's very cryptic. Nobody knows if he means that the old standards now look premium on the outside, but just have no detailed cockpit view or not. But he did say that they look better now. How much better is not confirmed.
 
DirtyLarry

DirtyLarry

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Oh yeah. even though I have the PS4 coming, I am keeping my PS3 hooked up and will bust out my Logitech GT Racing Wheel for this NO DOUBT.
 
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Red Chocobo

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What do people think about this "Body Repair" thing?

It looks like scuffs and light damage actually stay on your car after a race (See the front of this Range Rover) and you have to have them repaired.

One one hand, I think it's cool. But on the other, all my cars are going to look like they have been through a destruction derby lol.

Maybe it's only very light damage that builds up over time. Like the dirt in GT5 that you could wash off after racing a lot of times with one car.

Ow57o9Ho2T0.jpg
 
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Mobius 1

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Farrow said:
What do people think about this "Body Repair" thing?

It looks like scuffs and light damage actually stay on your car after a race (See the front of this Range Rover) and you have to have them repaired.

One one hand, I think it's cool. But on the other, all my cars are going to look like they have been through a destruction derby lol.

Maybe it's only very light damage that builds up over time. Like the dirt in GT5 that you could wash off after racing a lot of times with one car.
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I have always wanted that to happen. The car wash feature felt silly because the dirt never accumulated and remained on the car after the event. Or if it did, it took such a long time that it didn't matter anyway. The car lost some shine and not much else.

Maybe this will encourage drivers to be more careful about banging their vehicles about.
 
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Watevaman

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I doubt it'll cause people to be more careful if it costs 500 credits no matter the level of damage.

I honestly like Forza's system of taking credits away from your winnings based on how much damage your car sustained.
 
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Red Chocobo

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Norante said:
The car wash feature felt silly because the dirt never accumulated and remained on the car after the event. Or if it did, it took such a long time that it didn't matter anyway.
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It did, but only after about 50 races with one car.

I found it out when I spammed a seasonal event for credits. And I noticed that my car was slowly getting permanent black marks/scuffs on it. They them came off with a wash.

Also, after re-reading that Kaz interview about standard cars, I think they will pretty much look the same as GT5. But as he said "The bad ones were made to look a bit better".
 
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brotkasten

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Farrow said:
What do people think about this "Body Repair" thing?

It looks like scuffs and light damage actually stay on your car after a race (See the front of this Range Rover) and you have to have them repaired.

One one hand, I think it's cool. But on the other, all my cars are going to look like they have been through a destruction derby lol.

Maybe it's only very light damage that builds up over time. Like the dirt in GT5 that you could wash off after racing a lot of times with one car.

Ow57o9Ho2T0.jpg
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I love it. LOVE it.

I always thought amar's rants about that whole "you own the car in GT" were rather weak, but that's the stuff that takes it to a level where it's believable.

I can't wait for this game!
 
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AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Not sure if it was mentioned yet, but we can finally upgrade the brakes in the game now. You can buy brake kits.
 
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seattle6418

Member
OmegaDL50 said:
Having played the hell out of both GT5 and Forza 3.

While Gran Turismo 5 has 1074 cars. A lot of them are different year and livery variants.

In regards to car models that have different appearance, as in the in-game car models that do not look the same as another car and is physically different and isn't just a performance change or livery change, Forza has far more unique looking models in this regard.

If I were to eliminate the clones and variants and kept the car list to just unique looks (For example Nissan SKYLINE GT-R (R34) '99, Nissan SKYLINE GT-R (R34) '00, Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V・spec II (R34) '00, Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V・spec II N1 (R34) '00, and the Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V・spec II Nür (R34) '02 all look the same except for performance differences) Just keeping the R34 V-Spec II Nür and getting rid of the rest.

If one was to keep one unique model and remove the variants in GT5 the true car count would be closer to 600 cars and not 1074.

As for Forza 3. Removing it's variants it would lose about 20 to 30 cars. Ending up with 390 to 400, however it's an fairly even split between American, European, and Japanese models.

Even if we were to count GT5's 600 unique models. The list heavily favorites JDM. So the split looks like 55% Japanese, 30% European, 15% American.

So even with Forza having lesser overall cars, it still ends up with better car diversity. Even though Gran Turismo has more unique models overall.
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It´s actually less. I remember doing this on GT4 and out of 720 you get 350 or so. This guy here: http://britgamer.co.uk/2013/11/06/how-many-cars-does-gran-turismo-6-really-have/ claims GT6 has 434 unique models out of the 1197, and there´s some good (others not so good) points made there, it´s worth the read.

They made some strides and there´s clearly less clones in the premium models, but it still is something that just makes the player confused and it has very little gameplay purposes. The idea of base models is a lot better and i´m happy to see it because i asked for it before. Should have done the same with the Nascar models.

Metfanant said:
GT5 was rough around the edges, but A LOT of groundwork was laid there for a great game...
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I feel strongly about this. I see GT5 as some sort of a beta, and i think they will get it right in a number of things this time.

Farrow said:
What do people think about this "Body Repair" thing?

It looks like scuffs and light damage actually stay on your car after a race (See the front of this Range Rover) and you have to have them repaired.

One one hand, I think it's cool. But on the other, all my cars are going to look like they have been through a destruction derby lol.

Maybe it's only very light damage that builds up over time. Like the dirt in GT5 that you could wash off after racing a lot of times with one car.

Ow57o9Ho2T0.jpg
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Reminds me of the way Need For Speed High Stakes (1999) used to do. It was nice because in some cars it was a lot of money, so you started to drive more carefully because of that.

AlphaSnake said:
Not sure if it was mentioned yet, but we can finally upgrade the brakes in the game now. You can buy brake kits.
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And Nitrous! I know some people hate it, but i think since it exists on real life, it should be in the game.
 
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VIPERGTSR01

Neo Member
Where did this information come that the Vette won? I thought a Chevy Nova won?

https://twitter.com/GTPlanetNews/status/398333601495805952

brotkasten said:
Of course he'll pick it. He owns a C6 or C7 or both, if I remember correctly. Having the Pantera in the game would've been awesome, but there goes the chance.
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He doesn't own a Corvette as far as I am aware, I remember a lot of people thinking he did prior to GT5 as he was driving a C6 ZR1 around that was loaned to him by GM while in LA.
 
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brotkasten

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VIPERGTSR01 said:
Where did this information come that the Vette won? I thought a Chevy Nova won?

https://twitter.com/GTPlanetNews/status/398333601495805952



He doesn't own a Corvette as far as I am aware, I remember a lot of people thinking he did prior to GT5 as he was driving a C6 ZR1 around that was loaned to him by GM while in LA.
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I think people are talking about the Chevy that won the user voting on Facebook for some weird reason.

And thanks for the info. It was mentioned many times that he owned a ZR1. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
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seattle6418

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Browser trouble, weird double post.

Since we´re at it, heavy damage for NRL sounds good, but no ABS like Amar suggested seems too harsh on pad users. It´s bad with the G25 pedal, imagine with a DS3.
 
Shortt Sirket

Shortt Sirket

Member
Farrow said:
What do people think about this "Body Repair" thing?

It looks like scuffs and light damage actually stay on your car after a race (See the front of this Range Rover) and you have to have them repaired.

One one hand, I think it's cool. But on the other, all my cars are going to look like they have been through a destruction derby lol.

Maybe it's only very light damage that builds up over time. Like the dirt in GT5 that you could wash off after racing a lot of times with one car.

Ow57o9Ho2T0.jpg
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I admit I haven't been keeping up on this game like I should but this looks AWESOME! I have been one of the few that has always loved the oil changes and car washes. This just adds another layer to the "car ownership" aspect.

phosphor112 said:
Fucking fuck. The Vette won? Seriously? Idiots.
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Jesus, seriously? I have been following that on Facebook and I can't believe it was even in the RUNNING, much less the winner.
 
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Dibbz

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Metalmurphy said:
Kaz said there wouldn't be black cockpits anymore, so they'll probably won't even exist anymore.

I was ok with black cockpits in GT5 btw.



Erm, you sure? Really looks like a warp to me lol
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If it was a warp he would have taken the entire gird with him off the track lol.

I just noticed that the Nurb is said to have day/night + weather. Hope this means the GP version also. Didn't make much sense that the bigger version could have full day/night etc but the smaller GP version didn't.
 
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Ding-Ding

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Nightengale said:
Pretty much sums up Forza 5.

Looks great, plays great, sounds great... Yet it seems like there's so many things about it that... feels unbaked, sometimes even soulless in how they're approaching the vision of the game.

Just feels weird, coming out of a premium sim racer franchise.
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Its just Turn 10 going through the same kind of thing PD had to with GT5. Making highly detailed cars etc takes time.

It just seems with the amount of detail & precision PD went to with GT's premium cars & tracks, that they really was future proofing for the PS4. I really wouldn't be surprised if GT7 showed up on PS4 sooner rather than later. Just minus the standards and some of the older built tracks cut.

It will get a little flak but not in the same league Turn 10 are getting from its fanbase now with Forza 5.
 
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paskowitz

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This should be added to the OT, at least in link form.

Oyashiro-sama, from GTPlanet put together a fantastic thread about everything that is new in GT6 and everything that has been taken out or is missing (from previous games).

### Cars ###​
I wrote a program to remove the duplicates from the lists of cars from GT5 and GT6. I still got a lot of mismatches (around 200) that I had to go through manually (a lot of cars were slightly renamed, but we can easily assume it's the same car). As for the "Removed Cars (with similar alternative present)", I'm still almost sure that it was a naming issue and that it is safe to assume it's the same car, but I put them there anyway. Note: for those of you who are curious, I attached the mismatch file ("out.txt") so that you can judge by yourself if the cars are the same or not.

- Removed Cars (no alternative present)
Ferrari F10 '10
Ferrari F2007 '07
Citroën C4 WRC '08
Ford Focus RS WRC 07 '08
Subaru IMPREZA WRC 2008 '08
Suzuki SX4 WRC '08
Ginetta G4 '64
Jensen Interceptor MkIII '74
Nissan 350Z Gran Turismo 4 Limited Edition (Z33) '05
Nissan 370Z (Z34) (GT Academy Version) '08
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Total: -10

- Removed Cars (with similar alternative present on GT6)
Lotus Europa Special '71 -> Lotus Europa Special '72
Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-B (S54A) '67 -> Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-B (S54B) '67
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI spec C Type RA RM '05 -> Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI Rally Car '05
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Total: -3

- Removed Cars (but same car with different livery/tunning exists)
Toyota 2010 Joey Logano #20 Camry (Fantasy)
Chevrolet Camaro SS Edge Special
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 5G
Ford GT (No Stripe) '05
Nissan 370Z Tuned Car (GT Academy Version) '08
Nissan GT-R Black edition (GT Academy Version) '12
Nissan GT-R Black edition Tuned Car (GT Academy Version) '12
Nissan GT-R SpecV (GT Academy Special)
Nissan GT-R SpecV (GT Academy Version) '09
Nissan Leaf G (GT Academy Version) '11
Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (S15) (GT Academy Version) '02
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V·spec II (R32) (GT Academy Version) '94
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V·spec II Nür (R34) (GT Academy Version) '02
(All standard cars duplicates of premium cars)
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Total: -13

+ Added Cars
2011 Monster Sport SX4 Pikes Peak Special '11
Abarth 1500 Biposto Bertone B.A.T 1 '52
Abarth 500 '09
Abarth Grande Punto '09
Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4 T Sport '09
Alfa Romeo TZ3 Stradale '11
Alpine A110 1600S '72
Aston Martin One-77 '11
Audi Auto Union V16 Type C Streamline '37
Audi R18 TDI (Audi Sport Team Joest) '11
Audi R18 TDI Prototype '11
Audi R8 LMS - Team Oreca '10
Audi R8 LMS ultra (Audi Sport Team Phoenix) '12
Audi R8 LMS ultra '12
Audi Sport quattro S1 Pikes Peak '87
Audi Sport quattro S1 Rally Car '86
Autobacs Garaiya GT300 Base Model '08
BMW 507 '57
BMW E92 M3 (BMW Motorsport) '10
BMW M3 GT (BMW Motorsport) '11
BMW M3 GT2 Base Model '11
BMW Z4 GT3 '11
BMW Z8 '01
Bugatti Veyron 16.4 '13
Cadillac CTS-V Coupe '11
Chevrolet 2013 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 National Guard CHEVROLET SS '13
Chevrolet 2013 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET SS '13
Chevrolet 2013 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET SS '13
Chevrolet 2013 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET SS '13
Chevrolet 2013 Tony Stewart #14 Bass Pro Shops CHEVROLET SS '13
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C7) '14
Chevrolet Corvette StingRay Racer Concept '59
Chevrolet El Camino SS 396 '67
Chevrolet Nova SS '70
Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta passo corto CN.2521 '61
Ferrari 250 GTO CN.3729GT '62
... (continued at link)
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Total: 122+25(-1?)


### Tracks ###​
Note that most variants of the tracks (layouts) can't be confirmed. Furthermore, it's confirmed that Stowe (a track inside Silverstone) was scanned, but it's inclusion is not yet confirmed (as far as I know).

- Removed Tracks
The Top Gear Test Track
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Total: -1

+ Added Tracks
Mount Panorama [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Apricot Hill Raceway [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Ascari Full Track [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Brands Hatch [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Silverstone [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
>>[Confirmed Layouts: GP Circuit, International Circuit and National Circuit]
Willow Springs International Raceway [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
>>[Confirmed Layouts: Streets of Willow and Big Willow]
Matterhorn [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Gran Turismo Arena [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Goodwood Hillclimb [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
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Total: 9 (even though imo last 3 of them are mehh...)

+ Enhanced Tracks
Autumn Ring [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Daytona International Speedway [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Twin Ring Motegi [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps [Time Changes]
Tsukuba Circuit [Weather Changes]
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Total: 5

### Features ###​
Again, some are difficult to confirm. About Standard/Premium Car, there won't be distinction between them, but Standard equivalent cars will have simplified cockpit views (and even if it's not mentioned, they may or may not have a rougher exterior look). At first look, all racing suits and helmets seem to be maintained. All paint categories where maintained but it's sill unsure if all those several thousands of paint chips will be there.

- Removed Features
GT5 Course Maker
Experience System
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Total: -2

- Removed Features (but promised to be back on future updates)
B-Spec
3D Compatibility
New Course Maker
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Total: -3

+ Improved Features
Game Physics: Tyre Model (with Yokohama)
Game Physics: Suspension Model (with KW)
Game Physics: Aerodynamics
Graphics: Adaptive Tessellation
Graphics: HDR Rendering Engine (Lighting System)
Graphics: Astronomical Simulation System, Variable Weather and Variable Daytime
Cars: No distinction between Standard/Premium Cars (but some cars will have simplified cockpit views)
Garage: New garage style (can also store cars you don’t normally use in a Stockyard)
Racing Gear: You can now buy Suits and Helmets (but it looks more expensive than some cars lol)
Career: PP Restrictions and other requirements on single player campaign (A-Spec)
Career: "Short Endurance" Races
Online: Races with official qualifying rounds
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Total: 12

+ New Features
Career : Career with Stars System instead of Experience Points
Coffee Break mini-challenges: Cone knockout mini game
Coffee Break mini-challenges: Eco mini game (drive the farthest you can with 1L of petrol)
Tunning: Brake Kits
Tunning: Nitrous
Damage: Body Repair (there's a picture where you see a damaged car in the GT-Auto equivalent)
Racing Gear: New Special Suits and Helmets (Nascar 2013 and GT Academy 2013)
4 New Photo Travel Locations: Gemasolar, Ronda, Siracusa and Valencia
Photo Travel: It is now possible to simultaneously place 2 cars in locations to photograph
Online: Clubs
Online: Quick Match
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Total: 11

+ New Features (promised via future updates/DLCs)
New Engine Sounds
More Real Cars
More Fantasy Cars: Vision Gran Turismo
More Tracks
Data Logger: Analyse your saved replay data
GPS Visualiser: Import real life ghost lap
Mobile Devices: Access online community features with iOS Safari and standard Android browsers
Ayrton Senna Institute Partnership: Could this mean Interlagos circuit or F1 cars?
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Total: 8

? Unknown Features (can't tell yet if removed or not)
(?) Horns
(?) Museum Cards
(?) GT5 Photo Travel Locations
(?) B-Spec Remote Racing
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Total: (-4?)

? Popular Features (in OP's opinion) that weren't yet addressed by PD
Traffic lights on race starts (instead of 3, 2, 1, START)?
Possibility to make online Same Car Races with any car in the game?
Better online shuffle options?
New Damage System? Kaz said it would be similar to GT5's.
Porsche cars? Very unlikely.
Livery Editor? Very unlikely.
...
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Total: over 9000
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bjork

Member
I'm planning to get this for my dad at Christmas. Just saw the car list linked in the OP. Almost 1200 cars? He's gonna be all kinds of busy.
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
Mount Panorama [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Apricot Hill Raceway [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Ascari Full Track [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Brands Hatch [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Silverstone [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
>>[Confirmed Layouts: GP Circuit, International Circuit and National Circuit]
Willow Springs International Raceway [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
>>[Confirmed Layouts: Streets of Willow and Big Willow]
Matterhorn [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Gran Turismo Arena [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
Goodwood Hillclimb [Weather Changes] [Time Changes]
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Wait am I misreading something? All these tracks have 24 hour cycles and weather changes 0_0

Brands Hatch, Silverstone, Ascari, Willow....is this for real?
 
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