I love that fact sheet. "You don't need to be online to play your Xbox One and games offline! You just need to go online with your Xbox One and games first before you can use them".
It's only for launch games probably so I don't see the big deal.
I love that fact sheet. "You don't need to be online to play your Xbox One and games offline! You just need to go online with your Xbox One and games first before you can use them".
"Offline Play Enabled" on the PS4 box is still a wee bit mysterious though.So nothing to see here.
He paid $500, got to try the system early, got a $100 target gift card, and gets invited to the MS launch event and who knows what other goodies he'll get and still gets the system unlocked on day 1. Yeah I don't really feel sorry for him.
It's a stark reminder of just how apocalyptic things would have been if M$ really went ahead with their master plans. For all we know, the actual day one patch won't work for every console.Well from the sound of it they are unbanning him... yes it sucks it doesn't work now... but come launch he wont have an issue.
In the end people are dog piling MS even though it was all targets fault.
XBL isn't ready, so the best decision is to restrict his access but as a negative the launch patch wasn't live yet for retail so he's seeing the effect of that.
If it couldn't connect to XBL in the first place, this thread wouldn't exist as hed just be stuck waiting for the patch.
People should read this before jumping to conclusions. This could simply be a full console ban and may have nothing to do with COD per se. Let's sit tight until we get more info.
"Offline Play Enabled" on the PS4 box is still a wee bit mysterious though.
Their old policy was very troubling but if the patch isn't for the DRM reversal then it really isn't shocking.Still scary to think that this is what they could originally do.Isn't it troubling though that they can actually ban a console from actually working?!
It's a stark reminder of just how apocalyptic things would have been if M$ really went ahead with their master plans. For all we know, the actual day one patch won't work for every console.
"Offline Play Enabled" on the PS4 box is still a wee bit mysterious though.
I certainly wouldn't use a banned account 12 days out as proof of anything though. Not without any additional corroboration.
Ya, it gets confusing. We were told by MS before the guy got his console that the XBox One would not function without a day one patch. The first thing the guy had to do was connect, then it downloaded a patch that matched the estimated size (500MB?). Then his XBox One booted to the UI and everything worked, including Call of Duty. Today it doesn't.how could he download the day one patch when it's not even out yet doe
Isn't it troubling though that they can actually ban a console from actually working?!
I'm gonna go with 2. He can't even access his settings, so it sounds like the ban essentially bricked the console.
Would not the fact that he was able to play the game to begin with indicate that HE DID in fact download the day 1 patch?
Is this a serious post?
Isn't it troubling though that they can actually ban a console from actually working?!
They did? Even for offline play?MS bricked consoles this gen too, so... not really. Just don't do stupid shit that gets you banned?
Isn't it troubling though that they can actually ban a console from actually working?!
Unlikely because after the ban he was still playing, it makes no sense to ban you and then giving you a grace period when you can do stuff offline. I am willing to bet that the console wasn't able to do the 24hrs check for obvious reason and then it blocked itself because that was the original plan.
"Offline Play Enabled" on the PS4 box is still a wee bit mysterious though.
I certainly wouldn't use a banned account 12 days out as proof of anything though. Not without any additional corroboration.
People should read this before jumping to conclusions. This could simply be a full console ban and may have nothing to do with COD per se. Let's sit tight until we get more info.
The system goes live on November 22nd. You have to download a patch before it works. If these problems are still present then, yeah, go crazy and I'll join in. But the speculation in here is tin foil hat stuff
Would not the fact that he was able to play the game to begin with indicate that HE DID in fact download the day 1 patch?
What will major Nelson's spin be on this lol
I find it weird MS employees would be home testing the system with DRM still activated though.
The system goes live on November 22nd. You have to download a patch before it works. If these problems are still present then, yeah, go crazy and I'll join in. But the speculation in here is tin foil hat stuff
But... that's bad news, **if** the patch he downloaded is actually the final one. It means that console bans now affect offline content and games as well, unlike on the 360.
The way I see it, there are three scenarios, in order of likelihood:
1) The patch wasn't final; 24-hour DRM is still in until the next patch to come out before launch
2) The patch already includes the disabling of DRM, but console bans now lock out offline and disc content
3) Activision implemented its own DRM, despite the console itself being ready to go
Best case scenario, of course, is scenario 1 (I also think it's the most likely by far), but it still begs the question -- why is the fix of the most major, crucial shift in policy coming down to the wire, if that's the case?
I though he said he just downloaded a file of around 500 mb after the initial startup, and I remember MS stated before that said patch was going to take around 15-20 min to download, so I really doubt it was supposed to be the real deal, IIRC didn't some insider said at some point the final patch was going to be around 1.7 gb?
You are assuming the patch that he downloaded was recent. Its possibly a month old build. We dont know.
I wonder if this guy will get his MS Gala invite revoked for speaking out.What will major Nelson's spin be on this lol
I forget the file size, but I remember reading as he was downloading it that people were posting it was the right size. I dunno.The last big patch (in dev) was around 1.4gb~
But... that's bad news, **if** the patch he downloaded is actually the final one. It means that console bans now affect offline content and games as well, unlike on the 360.
The way I see it, there are three scenarios, in order of likelihood:
1) The patch wasn't final; 24-hour DRM is still in until the next patch to come out before launch
2) The patch already includes the disabling of DRM, but console bans now lock out offline and disc content
3) Activision implemented its own DRM, despite the console itself being ready to go
Best case scenario, of course, is scenario 1 (I also think it's the most likely by far), but it still begs the question -- why is the fix of the most major, crucial shift in policy coming down to the wire, if that's the case?
Ok, I just found a picture of Call of Duty: Ghosts Xbox One packaging.
It does NOT say offline play is enabled.
This doesn't confirm anything one way or the other, of course, but there it is.
But... that's bad news, **if** the patch he downloaded is actually the final one. It means that console bans now affect offline content and games as well, unlike on the 360.
Based on the CBOAT posts about key OS function being fucked, MS would likely take it down to the wire to have the final firmware ready. I'd imagine they'd be working away right up to the last minute.
What if MS was always capable of bricking the console, but never exercised that capability because it would result in a consumer backlash? This could be a one off situation where they wanted to d it to completely block any media exposure. As I said, this may have nothing to do with DRM or COD. Just a one off. Messy and unfair, but unrelated.
Has it been 24 hours since he played it online?
Yes, this is what I can't understand when people keep mentioning this. The patch was to remove the DRM and enable offline play (which he did for a while) so why is it now not able to do what he did yesterday? If the patch removed the DRM then it should have also removed the 24 hour check in, surely. Why the hell would MS not include the 24 hour check in on the same patch that allowed him to play offline?
You are assuming the patch that he downloaded was recent. Its possibly a month old build. We dont know.
imagn.Imagine if online authentication was deactivated at the OS level, but was still possible from game to game.
Yeah I would love to know why that's on there myself, XD Seems a bit odd. It could be sony's marketing sillyness to try and zing MS some more after E3, but that's getting a bit old.
But yeah, i'll judge this all on the 22nd when I actually have the console! *fingers crossed*
Does PS4 need an “always on” internet connection in order to play games?
No, PS4 does not require a persistent internet connection to play games, so users can play single-player titles offline at any time. For titles with online multiplayer functionality, an internet connection and a PlayStation Plus membership will be required to play online.
Does PS4 need to occasionally connect online?
Besides system software update 1.50 and a one-time activation for playing Blu-ray Disc and DVD movies, PS4 does not require an online connection for authentication purposes or to play disc-based games. However, PS4 features many advanced online benefits such as live PS4 gameplay streaming, entertainment services and more.
imagn.
Huh. What's Raven and Neversoft doing there. What did they do in the game?
the thing is, how is anyone going to find this out even after launch? Most people will have already had broadband installed and already downloaded the patch. Unless someone deliberately removes the broadband for a day, no one will be any the wiser.
Unlikely because after the ban he was still playing, it makes no sense to ban you and then giving you a grace period when you can do stuff offline. I am willing to bet that the console wasn't able to do the 24hrs check for obvious reason and then it blocked itself because that was the original plan.
imagn.
I think it's there solely to remind people that PS4 doesn't need online, while some games like this will require it on Xbone.
Taken from Sony's official FAQ: