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What will be really interesting is if the PS4 can keep pace in sales while the XB1 outships it here. It just might; those Xboxes aren't flying out the door quite as fast as they're coming in.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
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What will be really interesting is if the PS4 can keep pace in sales while the XB1 outships it here. It just might; those Xboxes aren't flying out the door quite as fast as they're coming in.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Wii u is a little too high
What not has sense exactly? ps4 is sold out everywhere, probably is not expected to cover a so high demand.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
So around 339k went fully digital maybe?
About 45% of November's US market going to Sony? That's a world I can live with.
(Gently caresses his Vita).
shinra-bansho
Member
An absolute disaster, but hardly surprising numbers for WiiU.
There simply has to be a changing of the guard at NCL. No matter how much people deny it, it is obvious the old Yamauchi ways are still very much in play behind the scenes.
Bring in some new people with new ideas. Someone like Arakawa from back in the day.
There simply has to be a changing of the guard at NCL. No matter how much people deny it, it is obvious the old Yamauchi ways are still very much in play behind the scenes.
Bring in some new people with new ideas. Someone like Arakawa from back in the day.
Father_Brain
Banned
So, looking at the worldwide sales picture, how much of that 9M shipment forecast is Nintendo likely to reach by the end of March? A quarter? Even less?
They can reach 9 mil still if they drop the price down to $99.
Even if they're not flying off the shelves as fast as PS4s... I dunno, if Mortimer's 500k number is correct, that'd require a pretty damn sharp dropoff for Xbone demand, I think. Or PS4 to be a bit above that 1m/month estimate from Pachter; I've heard 1.2m a few times, but that might just be baseless conjecture, so who knows.
Also, I'm not really putting much stock into this whole notion of "winning the holidays" being so important to the whole race. I'm not buying into this notion that there will be hundreds of thousands of people going into stores where, failing to find a PS4, will simply opt for an Xbone instead and leave Sony with so many lost potential customers. Sounds like console warrior fantasy to me, really. If the demand is for PS4s, I suspect the vast majority of that segment to stick with seeking out PS4s, whether that be before or after Christmas.
PS2 -> PS3, etc.
Chobel
Member
It seems this way with PS3 between 419-428k
CouldBeWorse
Member
Damn you, mort!
Now, the only way it makes sense is if cream rounded down to get to 12% because you can't get to PS > Xbox if PS4 is actually 1138k AND you stick to an actual 12%.
Here is my final pass, which should be really damn close and puts PS just above the Xbox console family:
PS4 - 1138k - 33.43%
XBO - 909k - 26.70%
360 - 647k - 19.01%
PS3 - 420k - 12.34%
WIU - 220k - 6.46%
WII - 70k - 2.06%
Total - 3404k
Playstation Family - 1558k
Xbox Family - 1556k
Nintendo Family - LOLk
Not seems so to me.
metalslimer
Member
With Europe being completely dead, I think they'll be lucky to ship 2.5 million given the system only has DK for Q1. Now, how Iwata will manage to survive this I don't know, but I'm already expecting him to some get even more power out of this.
At this point they probably couldn't even produce the 9 million to give away if they wanted.
Codeblew
Member
Oh, now you are jogging my memory. I had that game and some mech game as well. I remember the mech game looked pretty cool at the time with the amount of polygons but I have just never been into mechs.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Ok I can't tell if this is a serious demand people are making or a joke. Seen $99 thrown around a lot lately.
Not seriously asking for this price(I already have a Wii U), but this is literally the only possible way they would get close to 9 million. $199 won't do anything because the ps3 and the 360 will still look more appealing at that price.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Yeah, let's throw money at an irrelevant product, positioned in a market we aren't capable of competing in, because...market presence?
cpp_is_king
Member
"I know the Wii U will recover. I just know it in my heart". It always kills me when people use random speculation instead of actual facts to forecast things. I don't recommend putting money in the stock market with that kind of attitude.
metalslimer
Member
THey also will never make a dedicated handheld again, so it's not like they won't be handing it over next gen anyway.
Haha. True love will save the Wii U. I believe.
nckillthegrimace
Member
Are you saying the Wii U is a scam meant to so wildly devalue Nintendo stock that the company can easily buy it all back with their massive warchest?
MeBecomingI
Member
Those Killzone numbers make me smile. It'd be nice if they were even higher, but the game is fantastic and it deserves those sales. Nice to see it was the best selling exclusive. A good feat considering it was up against the standard shooter juggernauts. I hope it continues to sell.
Makes me a little happier after seeing the Vita numbers... but then the Tearaway numbers make me shake my fucking head.
Makes me a little happier after seeing the Vita numbers... but then the Tearaway numbers make me shake my fucking head.
No, it's not.
Fnord
Member
I haven't hooked up my Jaguar in years, but think about it on occasion. Tempest was awesome.
Codeblew
Member
Damn you, mort!
Now, the only way it makes sense is if cream rounded down to get to 12% because you can't get to PS > Xbox if PS4 is actually 1138k AND you stick to an actual 12%.
Here is my final pass, which should be really damn close and puts PS just above the Xbox console family:
PS4 - 1138k - 33.43%
XBO - 909k - 26.70%
360 - 647k - 19.01%
PS3 - 420k - 12.34%
WIU - 220k - 6.46%
WII - 70k - 2.06%
Total - 3404k
Playstation Family - 1558k
Xbox Family - 1556k
Nintendo Family - LOLk
You kicked Vita out of the PS family? =(
Randolph Freelander
Member
That, or it's bluffing.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Ps3 smidge too low.
Super happy with next gen attach rates. Thats good news.
they are nearly identitical at 2 now(rounding might give that to Xbox one but I dont even see much of a diff)
Super happy with next gen attach rates. Thats good news.
they are nearly identitical at 2 now(rounding might give that to Xbox one but I dont even see much of a diff)
It's not like they haven't known since like May that they were going to fall well short of the forecast. They just didn't know how much they were going to miss by, and didn't want to play the game of publicly revising the target down every quarter. So they've just been sticking with their forecast publicly until the CY numbers come in, and then they'll do one big embarrassing revision with the Q3 numbers, instead of a bunch of embarrassing revisions every quarter.
But everyone inside Nintendo has known they had no shot of making that figure for the better part of a year now. Hell - it was clear to all of us in SalesAge as early as like June (and even earlier for some) that there was no chance of reaching that number. The question is more along the lines of - what were the realistic expectations within the brass at Nintendo, and did they come close to those or not. The 9M number has been irrelevant to Iwata's position for most of this FY.
Fnord
Member
I'm assuming you're referencing the MP in KZ:SF. Never messed with that side of things, but I didn't find the SP all that compelling outside of the OWL and visuals.
I feel the opposite.
Man thats horrible numbers for the Big N . Not having a mario or zelda game in whatever platform as a Top Ten software wounds Nintendo pride. Also as expected FPS dominate US software sales. Seems the only genre most Americans care about nowadays. Tis sad TBH, as that won't encourage more developers to try other genres. And poor Vita :'(. Maybe the last handheld Sony releases. Seems Nintendo has the handheld market cornered, even with lastlustre sales. Nintendo has itself to blame in them being in this mess though. Calling your successor Wii U?? Not at least trying to match half of this gen's specs, instead are still using last gen's technology. Iwata better right this ship ASAP, or give somebody else a shot at running Nintendo
. Not having a mario or zelda game in whatever platform as a Top Ten software wounds Nintendo pride. Also as expected FPS dominate US software sales. Seems the only genre most Americans care about nowadays. Tis sad TBH, as that won't encourage more developers to try other genres. And poor Vita :'(. Maybe the last handheld Sony releases. Seems Nintendo has the handheld market cornered, even with lastlustre sales. Nintendo has itself to blame in them being in this mess though. Calling your successor Wii U?? Not at least trying to match half of this gen's specs, instead are still using last gen's technology. Iwata better right this ship ASAP, or give somebody else a shot at running NintendoIntuition is how Wii became a phenomenon.
Imagine the scenario that Wii Sports was initially a Gamecube title and the Wiimote sold as an accessory, then some guy called Satoru tells you to build an entire home console around that game and controller.
theprodigy
Member
you mean because it takes market share away from Nintendo, technically
What does Nintendo do? Support it even tho it wont make money?
They will lose MORE money if they don't support it.
Chobel
Member
I can see MS using that in the near future.
After the debacle that happen during launch weekend... EA fucked themselves.
This is true. The only thing that can save Wii U now is Xbox One-level marketing (which just isn't possible for Nintendo) or a blockbuster game. Right now, there isn't a price out there that is both feasible for Nintendo and attractive to the customer. Of the announced games, only Mario Kart has a chance of breathing life into the system (I don't believe Smash can do it, and Donkey Kong, X, and Bayo 2 are going to totally bomb). If I were Nintendo, I would spend all of my marketing resources and time on Mario Kart and bombard every medium with advertising. Do I think that will work? No, but that is their best option, short of releasing that elusive blockbuster game.
Ah, ok. Cool.
Wolves Evolve
Member
Nintendo need to full court press the Wii U al next year to sell enough to even keep supply and software relationships operational. If they launch a new thing in 2016 with even less third party action, then fuck.
And how do you know that?
symmetrical
Member
Although I get what you're thinking simply because the U.S. has normally been Xbox land the past 8 years. But that is changing. If these numbers aren't any indication to you, then I don't know what is.
If the PS4 sold equal, or a little less than the XB1 in the U.S., then it wouldn't be a surprise to anyone. But since it's the other way around, why do you think this thread has 380,000 views? Because people are going apeshit that the PS4 is able to outsell the Xbox in its biggest territory.
metalslimer
Member
Ok, they will very likely never make a dedicated handheld again.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Any Knack data come in yet? I need the numbers for the inevitable Nintendo fan meltdowns when it out performs Super motherfucking Mario.
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