I really hope we get 99$ streaming boxes later on.
It would be so so great
I am hoping for a deluxe model with even better gear inside so I can skip building a pc next year.
I would install windows and maybe even windows 8.
I really hope we get 99$ streaming boxes later on.
It would be so so great
360 controller works for me on the os beta. and sound..
Nice! Do the Linux versions of games maintain their 360 button prompts? I'd assume they do, right?
Smaller than an Xbox One. lol
Beautiful. With Steam Boxes popularizing the small form factor PC's for the living room, I hope hardware manufactures open their eyes and see a potential growth in this part of the market. Currently, there are only a very limited selection of ITX motherboards and SFF cases compared to mATX and such. It's disappointing.
Verge said:When I ask whether Intel or AMD might make special chips to bring down the price of truly powerful integrated graphics, the room goes quiet for a moment. "We dont have an answer that we can give you before January," the team answers.
Nice! Do the Linux versions of games maintain their 360 button prompts? I'd assume they do, right?
When is valve planning to release These steamboxes?
Yeah, the linux kernel has built in support for most game controllers just plug in a 360 controller or dongle and go in pretty much any version of linux in the last few years. Most games like Meat Boy and FEZ and whatnot work flawlessly with it and have all the prompts.
Is it the same with DS too? I mean the prompts. Or would devs have to imlement it? There seems to be this buzz that DS4 will be the most popular controller for PC.
They aren't planning on doing so at the moment.
The plan is to let OEMs with more experience make the boxes, but I'm hoping they one day have their own "nexus"-esque line of steam machines.
Well, they changed their minds it seems. Pretty sure during the press blowout more than one reported Valve don't intend to sell them.
Take a good hard look at Valve's Steam Machine, because it's the last time you'll see it. Er, something like that. Only 300 of the metal beast above will ship to beta testers, and then Valve says it's cutting off its own supply of Steam Machines. "We're really building this as a test platform, and there are many machines that are gonna be made by third-parties. They're the ones that will be available commercially in 2014," Valve designer Greg Coomer told Engadget.
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We couldn't help but push Coomer one more time on availability of the box outside of beta:
"Really we just wanna have confidence that all the customers on Steam are having enough options, and that the price/performance spectrum is as fleshed out as Steam customers want it to be. And right now, the indications that we have from the lineup that we're gonna be talking about at CES, is that they are gonna have enough choice. So we're gonna continue to treat this as a test platform and see how that goes."
I've been thinking this, but was affraid to say anything lol.
These things feel like a great big "It's fucking nothing" kind of thing.
They are pre-built computers with Steam OS installed...... I don't get it :/
Didn't feel like the PS 3 slim was noisy at least far more silent than xbox 360. Maybe it could be your setup, I'm not joking it could be it depends on location etcI'm convinced you people have a different definition of loud or you're living in some arctic environment.
I've already spoken to several others about this and read enough posts online, I'm pretty confident this is Sony fans unwilling to concede anything could be bad with the console at all.
Killzone most definitely drives PS4 fan noise up to PS3 slim stage 2 of 3 levels, I haven't heard it as loud as 3/3 but it's not far from it.
This "you must have a faulty PS4" stuff is cobblers.
EDIT: it's about 72f in Melbourne, inside my apartment now as summer is about to start,... it's not even close to proper warm yet. I've already ordered 2 silent, external fans to try to keep the thing quieter. Why the fuck they couldn't build it 10% bigger and focus on noise is beyond me, I get it's stylish but it's almost arguably too small.
hmm looking it up only Engadget went into more specifics, the others like WP, just said "you proly never buy, this is for test only":
Ah, interesting. It seems as though Valve has somewhat distanced itself from the idea of releasing its own Steam Machine and will be looking at how Steam users react to third-party offerings to inform a final decision.
Valve's always intended to release its own Steam Machine:
I don't think they'll be sold at retail, though; more likely is that they'll be purchased through the Valve Store as a made-to-order product, similar to Dell though perhaps without the options to change certain hardware.
If I ever get one I'm junking the controller for a ps4 or wired 360 one.....no analog sticks kill it.
Neat. The air channel/GPU rest doubles as a power cable conduit.What's under the gpu
I'd really want to have that case thank you please give it to me.
That's the problem with making statements about "PCs" in general -- my high-end PC is whisper quiet. Of course it's also huge. PCs can be as quiet or as loud as you want them to be. The only hard thing is if you want very fast, cheap, small and quiet at the same time.Even mid-tier PC are still much louder than consoles though. I'm not a console enthusiast by any means, but the few times I've played my brother's PS3 it's really impressive just how quiet it is.
Wait. Team Meat likes playing SMB with the controller? Are there any videos of someone playing a platformer like SMB, FEZ, Binding of Issac, Braid, etc? I'd be most interested in that. I mean not that I couldn't just use my 360 controller for those games. I'd be curious how the Steam controller plays with those.
Also, Minecraft would be a curiosity. I know it's not on a Steam, but you can still install it and add it to your list if you want. So I'd be curious to see how it works if possible. Since the trackpad control stick things can act as both a mouse and buttons.
When can we expect these to be available? I definitely want the $500 model from ibuypower. That's a great entry price for me to get into PC gaming cause no way in hell am I telling the wife I want to blow $800-$1,000 on a PC for videogames. We already have a PC that handles our needs. But this, this is different. My Trojan horse that I can then upgrade as I see fit.
I'm very excited about this.
Oh and I could not stop staring at that frowning speaker in the first unboxing video.
If I ever get one I'm junking the controller for a ps4 or wired 360 one.....no analog sticks kill it.
I understand people being skeptic about the controller, but I don't get how you can be this dismissive about it. Nothing interesting has been happening in gaming for years and when a company tries to do something different they get laughed at because their controller doesn't look exactly like everyone else's. I'd think people would at least give them the benefit of the doubt with the track record they have. I'm fairly certain that if the controller is as bad as people think it will be, valve would have been first to toss it and go for something better.
Never said it was bad.....but I hate touch controls period for movement and aiming...doesn't matter how good the controller may be. If I'm going to use something for mouse movements I'll just plug a dang mouse and keyboard in. Never in my post did I say it was a bad controller I just said it has no analog sticks therefor I would never use it....it's an opinion.
Or there is just a variance between production of ps4s. It happens. My ps4 is not loud and even if you put your ear up to it it's quieter than my PS3 slim. I have an Xbox One too and it's not loud at all when running. Yet there were a few people with loud fans. They returned the X1s and their replacements weren't as loud. So clearly not all production of consoles are 100% the same.
Never said it was bad.....but I hate touch controls period for movement and aiming...doesn't matter how good the controller may be. If I'm going to use something for mouse movements I'll just plug a dang mouse and keyboard in. Never in my post did I say it was a bad controller I just said it has no analog sticks therefor I would never use it....it's an opinion.
Controller with Windows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8tRU6bQb6Q
Controller with Windows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8tRU6bQb6Q
Just based on that small amount of footage, it looks like he's having a much easier time controlling the game.
That was a year ago. Not to say it will not happen but they already backed away from some of their claims. Biometrics are no longer part of the controller but now part of their VR project, with skin galvanic sensors at the ear lobe
I wonder if the revers 16x PCIe riser they use is available anywhere?
The article doesn't categorically state that biometrics were to be part of the Steam Controller, just that Valve had been experimenting with biometric-based input devices, and Gabe was non-committal about continuing to head down this route ("I think youll see controllers coming from us that use a lot of biometric data"); there's a distinction to make there. Valve's intention to sell its own Steam Machine appears to be the only certainty that it's stepped back from.
Ah sorry, I was referring to this:
Haven't 2-slot coolers with a blower design been ubiquitous since 2006 or thereabouts?
Yeah, I know, but the interview from which I quoted predates that one. I don't think there's much of a distinction to make between "I think you'll see biometric controllers from us" and "We wanted to the controller to be based around biometrics but found this infeasible" -- unlike Gabe's comment regarding Valve selling its own Steam Machine, a biometrics-based controller was never presented as anything more than a possibility.
Edit: On the subject of the Steam Controller, if Valve starts selling them before Microsoft releases PC drivers for the X1 controller, I'll likely opt for it instead, depending on the price.