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If you think this is bad stay away from the Alien movies.
She's not changing shit. She wants it changed - big difference. She doesn't want people to empathize with a allegorical rapist. Crazy, I'm sure.
Is this a fuckin joke? Its right there in the article, the developer says she's exactly right - that rape is what they were going for.
She's not changing shit. She wants it changed - big difference. She doesn't want people to empathize with a allegorical rapist. Crazy, I'm sure.
It totally is, though. That's the driving force behind what makes vampires scary. They are violators, and that image supports that argument more than it does yours.
The question at hand here is whether or not Castlevania is handling it well or not. If you don't think vampires are meant to have underlying dark erotic tones, you have nearly a century of literature and literary criticism to argue against.
Dracula is a sexist.
Hopefully she never played Silent Hill 2.
In my personal opinion, it is extremely generous to say that 70% of the criticism of her piece is good.
So, Dracula sucking blood from a woman = rape now
Yes, they are indeed violators and that is the horror. They are seductive creatures and drink blood from men and women alike. It simply goes with the territory when dealing with the subject matter and I have never once heard anyone take offense and compare it to rape.
What are we supposed to do, censor vampire stories now because people get their panties in a wad? Oh no! Dracula drank blood from a woman in a game, like he always has done in all of the other tales about him. How dare they!
And countless writers have criticized those games as well. Rightfully so.
As confirmed in the articles I quoted above, Dracula indeed feeds on all three. So there you have it.
Regarding the latter part of your post are you saying that under no circumstances rape should be represented in a video game? Just to clear things up, I don't think the particular scene is about rape, or that a similar scene with literal rape would be unquestionably acceptable; this is a broader question.
Lets start blaming Osamu Tezuka too.
No. I met my english requirements for college while in high school and we didn't read Dracula. We did read Frankenstein when I was a sophmore or jr in high school but never Dracula.
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What's the point of putting this up?
Vampires aren't violating a women's right to her sexuality though. They are violating her right to live, by draining her blood. And that's the difference. A right to live, is something universal and shared by everyone, whatever the gender may be. Again, calling this sexual/assault rape just has no base. You can call it suggestive and a lot of other things, but to skip go, not collect 200 dollars and go straight to jail with the rape card is unfounded, and does make the article seem like click bait.
He handled rape very well in Ayako.
damn and you still never read dracula
Just curious; what other games show or allude to rape in its story? I know the Silent Hill has done it, but the only other one I recall is in Far Cry 3.
Just curious; what other games show or allude to rape in its story? I know the Silent Hill has done it, but the only other one I recall is in Far Cry 3.
I've been having an exchange for her over the last half-hour or so. She's obviously getting a lot of crap from people, but she's been nothing but cordial, and totally willing to respond to particular questions. I have a screen-grab of the back-and-forth.
This sounds more like the reader interpreting it that way. Not everything is an allegory for something else.
That being said, the other people who played the game seem to find the scene pretty unsettling and think it did a good job according to those preview links posted earlier.
Tezuka had explicit rape in MW.He handled rape very well in Ayako.
Tomb Raider, Beyond: Two Souls and probably some others. Not sure what the deal was with Hotline Miami 2.Just curious; what other games show or allude to rape in its story? I know the Silent Hill has done it, but the only other one I recall is in Far Cry 3.
People looking for hidden messages where they may or may not exist.Do you understand what a metaphor is? Or subtext
Yes? Especially when you add in the other Vampire standards like seduction and (supernatural) physical dominance.
Unless there's some big thing the article doesn't mention (beyond "it's first person" I mean) the problem is implying that using that Vampire imagery is a bad thing, it's not like it's trivialising the rape allusion given that every preview agrees that this sequence is supposed to be horrifying, and is specifically showing what a monster the character involved is.
Has it been mentioned yet how much the screenshot captions conflict with the actual article?
Doctor who references while talking about rape in the article; What?!
"I only saw Dracula feed on the woman"
And? It's Dracula. Does she expect fiction to be rewritten to match her sensitivities? A character being portrayed like this is in no way an endorsement. But she clearly is ignoring that point. Clickbait troll horse woman.
This allegation is pure shit. The worst part? Now the mouth-breathing MENSA members who get bugs up their asses whenever someone points out an ACTUAL rape/race/gay/etc. issue will point to this example and garble out something like: "herderp no such thing as rape schmerp!"
"I only saw Dracula feed on the woman"
And? It's Dracula. Does she expect fiction to be rewritten to match her sensitivities? A character being portrayed like this is in no way an endorsement (an the fact that he is the main character does not change that). But she clearly is ignoring that point. Clickbait troll horse woman.
Ok fine. I associate vampire fiction very heavily with rape. I felt the scene described by Kat Bailey had overtones of sexual assault and decide to not play the game because I don't want to. That is all I have been saying, the rest have been my internal thought process to arrive at that decision.
Yeah, no kidding. If she has a problem with a vampire being a vampire, I'd love to see her respond to the pronounced, pervasive and completely intentional rape imagery throughout that entire game. Does it get a pass because it's a classic game? Because it's Japanese?
Do you understand what a metaphor is? Or subtext? This isn't even debatable. This has been a cornerstone of classic vampire fiction for more than a hundred years.
I'm not even saying the scene is bad and wrong. Read my posts. My point is that it's actually rather refreshing to have a developer openly admit that yes, this is an intentionally uncomfortable scene, rather than get defensive or call people complaining crazy loons. The final game might turn out to be trashy and exploitative like so many other games before it, but based on these articles I'm at least willing to give it the benefit of the doubt for now.
Unfortunately they seem to have plenty of people getting defensive on their behalf, but you can't win 'em all.
Yes, they are indeed violators and that is the horror. They are seductive creatures and drink blood from men and women alike. It simply goes with the territory when dealing with the subject matter and I have never once heard anyone take offense and compare it to rape.
What are we supposed to do, censor vampire stories now because people get their panties in a wad? Oh no! Dracula drank blood from a woman in a game, like he always has done in all of the other tales about him. How dare they!
So rape is worse than murder?
I've been having an exchange with her over the last half-hour or so. She's obviously getting a lot of crap from people, but she's been nothing but cordial, and totally willing to respond to particular questions. I have a screen-grab of the back-and-forth.
Just curious; what other games show or allude to rape in its story? I know the Silent Hill has done it, but the only other one I recall is in Far Cry 3.
Giant Bomb actually has a list, surprisingly.Just curious; what other games show or allude to rape in its story? I know the Silent Hill has done it, but the only other one I recall is in Far Cry 3.
Dracula drinks blood from men and women alike in the game. Is it a violation? Hell yes, as vampires drink blood from living hosts to live. Is it a sexual violation that implies raping a woman? No. It's just Dracula being the blood drinking fiend that he is. There is nothing to see here.
Dracula drinks blood from men and women alike in the game. Is it a violation? Hell yes, as vampires drink blood from living hosts to live. Is it a sexual violation that implies raping a woman? No. It's just Dracula being the blood drinking fiend that he is. There is nothing to see here.
So rape is worse than murder?
TBF there is nothing inherently sexual about it. Sucking blood is not inherently sexual Bram stokers renditions of it has numerous sexual undertones, but the concept of Vampires have existed before Bram Stoker and there are numerous diverging renditions afterwards.
You cannot say all Vampire concepts have sexual undertones because that is factually incorrect. The most common ones do however.
She'd probably respond with "you're not playing as Pyramid Head." Because the protagonist of a videogame always has to be a good guy, right! Only enemies do bad stuff. Stick to the rules, game designers!
*sigh* ... gaming "journalists," holding the medium back since its inception.