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[Chettlar]

Each of those games had come and gone on the 360 having their own "moment" in the sun for about two years before the next game came out. That collection wasn't a set of "new" games to the platform launching all at once but this Halo one would be.

I'm not sure what the point is here. Ok, well this time there is no Halo multiplayer on Xbox One. As I say later in this post, that is fruits for literally millions of people to play Halo multiplayer, and those could easily be divided among each of the games and still give each an ample supply of players.

That wasn't the only reason it didn't happen, a limited dev timeframe and no network infrastructure in the original game were a big part of it too.

Of course they would have had to do it. That's what a lot of people were planning on buying it for. Not doing that killed a huge reason for purchasing the game.

A lot of people have said that for Halo 2 they won't need to create an online infrastructure, since 2 already had one, but I think they do. Both 2 and 3 had pretty terrible netcode. I think they really need to completely rehaul it. I mean, just take notes from Killer Instinct. I see people saying that things netcode is "LAN-like." That is what Halo 2 needs.

This next part is to you as well:

Gears didn't get a traditional trilogy pack. It included Gears 1/2 and the All Fronts Collection which was all the DLC for Gears 2.

I find it weird how Microsoft didn't do proper "GOTY" versions for Gears 3/Judgment. Pretty sure it was the same for Halo 3/Reach?

That still doesn't disprove my point. Ok, it isn't three games; it's two games. That's still multiple multiplayers.

Plus, think about it. Halo has an insane number of fans. Each game would have a huge share of people playing it. I mean just look at the number of players Halo 3 got during games with gold. If the number of people saying they will seriously buy an Xbox One for this is any indication, there will be ample players on each of the multiplayers. Plus; it's not like everybody just plays one multiplayer. I would play all three, alternatively.

In addition; who's to say that all three will get their own multiplayer. What if it's just all three campaigns, and one redone multiplayer after the fashion of 2 and 3?

 

[dancrane212]

I'm not sure what the point is here. Ok, well this time there is no Halo multiplayer on Xbox One. As I say later in this post, that is fruits for literally millions of people to play Halo multiplayer, and those could easily be divided among each of the games and still give each an ample supply of players.

Those games in the collection are old on the 360. Most publishers aren't concerned about the maintaining a player population after the sequel is put out, that collection was just a matter of printing discs and shipping it out. No maintenance required.

I assume these ports won't get things like new maps but there is still resources put into bug fixes with the port and playlist management. For three games at once that could be quite a bit of work. Especially if two of the three games are only available in a $100+ package.

In addition; who's to say that all three will get their own multiplayer. What if it's just all three campaigns, and one redone multiplayer after the fashion of 2 and 3?

The rumor said the other two ports where for a "special edition" so I doubt 343 would spend resources on bringing in elements from 2 games that a large amount of people will not buy when they pick up the regular copy of Halo 2 Anniversary.

 

[Chettlar]

Those games in the collection are old on the 360. Most publishers aren't concerned about the maintaining a player population after the sequel is put out, that collection was just a matter of printing discs and shipping it out. No maintenance required.

I assume these ports won't get things like new maps but there is still resources put into bug fixes with the port and playlist management. For three games at once that could be quite a bit of work. Especially if two of the three games are only available in a $100+ package.



The rumor said the other two ports where for a "special edition" so I doubt 343 would spend resources on bringing in elements from 2 games that a large amount of people will not buy when they pick up the regular copy of Halo 2 Anniversary.

That's what makes me think that there will only be one multiplayer for all of them, but we'll see.

 

[bidguy]

Wash your mouth out with soap Dani. The only problem with this though process is halo 4 is not an Xbox One game. Halo 2 anniversary will be an xbox one game. Need to push systems.

i agree
this is why i think we will get the old halo 2 mp

1. the original servers are still online and ms said they will update us later about this

2. why would they port the mp part of halo 4 into this ? makes no sense

3. ntkrnl also said ms is going to port halo 4 over to xbox one so that would make the h2a mp redundant

 

[E92 M3]

why wouldnt they leave it intact.i am sure it will be.

It'd be too good if they didn't tinker with any of the mechanics or try to push new features. I'm talking them leaving a pure Halo 2 mp experience. I can't see that happening. I'd rather be cynical than disappointed.

 

[Chettlar]

i agree
this is why i think we will get the old halo 2 mp

1. the original servers are still online and ms said they will update us later about this

2. why would they port the mp part of halo 4 into this ? makes no sense

3. ntkrnl also said ms is going to port halo 4 over to xbox one so that would make the h2a mp redundant

4. They would get so much shit for not doing it I don't even want to try to imagine it. That would literally seal 343's fate more than their own Halo game.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

What makes you think they cant clean the bugs up? Bungie did back then for the most part. You are exaggerating. Back then there was more like Rainbow six so that is completely false. Don't discredit Halo 2. It still influences games today with the matchmaking that it introduced. I can play Halo 2 right now and its as fun as i remember,is it that hard to understand people prefer that style of play over modern shooters?

If it was a simple case of bug fixing then why are they there in the first place? It's not easy.

There were other games I guess, but top 10 xbox live games played it was always

1.) Halo 2
2.) Star Wars Battlefront

Even when Gears of War came out, it was Halo 2.

Halo was always number one until CoD4. Thats 3 solid years of people playing one game. Tends to create a loyalty and a lot of nostalgia.

I don't know where in my post I decried the matchmaking or the arena style play, read my post next time. The game itself was a rushed bugged mess, it was simply the best thing at the time and we didn't know any better.

It would need a heavy, HEAVY, coat of polish, and at that point I think a lot of people might be pissed that they cant BXR or swipe-snipe people or bridge host anymore.

 

[Slightly Live]

Wash your mouth out with soap Dani. The only problem with this though process is halo 4 is not an Xbox One game. Halo 2 anniversary will be an xbox one game. Need to push systems.

What's easier? What's more cost effective? What have they done already in the first Anni?

Remake an entire online mode from a two generation old game, from scratch, and hope it plays identically to the original, and include every single level.

or

Port over a version of Halo 4's multiplayer mode, slap up a few Halo 2 levels and tweak a few gametype settings.

Here's a hint: look at CEA.

 

[Chettlar]

What's easier? What's more cost effective? What have they done already in the first Anni?

Remake an entire online mode from a two generation old game, from scratch, and hope it plays identically to the original, and include every single level.

or

Port over a version of Halo 4's multiplayer mode, slap up a few Halo 2 levels and tweak a few gametype settings.

Here's a hint: look at CEA.

This is quit a bit different though. This is a system seller; it's kind of a big deal. Fuck this up, and you've just lost MS a lot of sales. This is a very different situation than CEA.

 

[Drainer]

I just want co-op to work this time.

Surely that's not hard is it? Fuck the "old graphics" switching and just make sure co-op works please.

What's easier? What's more cost effective? What have they done already in the first Anni?

Remake an entire online mode from a two generation old game, from scratch, and hope it plays identically to the original, and include every single level.

or

Port over a version of Halo 4's multiplayer mode, slap up a few Halo 2 levels and tweak a few gametype settings.

Here's a hint: look at CEA.

Not exactly the same scenario. You can't just take Halo 4's multiplayer and throw more maps in on Xbox One. It's a new non-BC console. You're building from scratch regardless. So if you're going to build from scratch, then you go with Halo 2 MP. Warts and all.

 

[vasametropolis]

Not too far fledged. However if anyone's porting Halo, it better be first party studio like 343.

Would be quite ridiculous that the best Halo game is not ported by Microsoft themselves.

I thought Saber did a pretty good job with the CE remake. Why oust them now? The graphics switching on the fly was their tech.

 

[Drainer]

I thought Saber did a pretty good job with the CE remake. Why oust them now? The graphics switching on the fly was their tech.

Pretty sure that tech was a decent part of the reason we got broken co-op.

If the choice was between the switching and working co-op, I'll take working co-op. If I wanted the old scholl Halo graphics, I would have popped my Halo 1 disc into my 360.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

I thought Saber did a pretty good job with the CE remake. Why oust them now? The graphics switching on the fly was their tech.

The screwed up Under of Cover of Night though soo...
Oh I mean Truth and Reconciliation.. whatever they made the desert into a grassy thing it wasn't the game I remember.

 

[Dramos]

Do we got ourselves a leaked cover art?

 

[El_Chino]

Do we got ourselves a leaked cover art?

Mock cover art.

 

[TechOne]

Do we got ourselves a leaked cover art?

More like a bad Photoshopped placeholder cover.

 

[Eoin]

Pretty sure that tech was a decent part of the reason we got broken co-op.

If the choice was between the switching and working co-op, I'll take working co-op. If I wanted the old scholl Halo graphics, I would have popped my Halo 1 disc into my 360.

Do you mean the Online Co-op, because i remember it being fine split screen? The online problems were due to needing the AI and physics to always be in sync, forcing the use of a synchronous networking model. This has always been a problem with online co-op in Halo. Has nothing to do with Saber's rendering engine at all.

 

[kitzkozan]

Rumor has it that Halo 2 would be ported over the the Xbox one in a "war" collection along with 3 and 4? That would be a lot of work, although I guess it's possible. The Tomb Raider definitive edition was made fairly quickly so it can be done with 3 and 4 which would need minimal overhaul compared to 2 (guessing 1080p and 30 FPS along with slight graphical improvements).

 

[TakeItSlowDude]

Rumor has it that Halo 2 would be ported over the the Xbox one in a "war" collection along with 3 and 4? That would be a lot of work, although I guess it's possible. The Tomb Raider definitive edition was made fairly quickly so it can be done with 3 and 4 which would need minimal overhaul compared to 2 (guessing 1080p and 30 FPS along with slight graphical improvements).

Wonder why no Halo CE anniversary port also, would be nice to have all of them playable on the XB1. Was disappointed with Halo CE anniversary framerate, would like to see a 1080p/60fps version on the XB1.

 

[Neuro]

Do we got ourselves a leaked cover art?

This listing Legit?

http://www.xtralife.es/xbox-one/halo-2-anniversary/15671#prettyPhoto

 

[Shenzakai]

Cross fingers that it will be H2A!

 

[malfcn]

Do we got ourselves a leaked cover art?

I think it's a deviantart picture.

 

[Muzy72]

Damn you leaker for ruining MS's E3 presser

E3 surprises are like Christmas morning for me damn it. I would have loved Halo 2 remake to be an E3 surprise.

 

[Septimus Prime]

Hope it's Halo 2 Anniversary. But it could always end up being Inversion 2...

How about Battle LA 2?

 

[Steel]

Real talk, if H2 Anniversary has the original Halo 2 multiplayer with all the original maps and nearly identical gameplay, I would seriously consider buying an Xbone just for that.

Otherwise I'm buying a PS4, and probably never playing a new Halo game again.

Oddly enough this is how I feel too(Have a PS4 already, but still I'd buy an XB1 for it). Wouldn't mind a good forge mode added though. Absolutely insane, I know.

 

[bobot]

You can't polish a turd.

I hope these guys can

 

[wwm0nkey]

Oddly enough this is how I feel too(Have a PS4 already, but still I'd buy an XB1 for it). Wouldn't mind a good forge mode added though. Absolutely insane, I know.

Yup I have a PS4 and that is staying my main but Halo 2 Anniversary with everything will get me to buy a Xbox One instantly.

 

[Milennia]

Damn you leaker for ruining MS's E3 presser

E3 surprises are like Christmas morning for me damn it. I would have loved Halo 2 remake to be an E3 surprise.

I still cant help but to remain skeptical on the whole thing, this is a little too good to be true in my case, i have been hungering for a halo 2 remake for years upon years.

Its still a wait and see for me.
I wont be surprised necessarily, if its announced at e3 (or before according to the leaker, which was FEB/MARCH) but it would be a sigh of relief that it exists.

 

[El_Chino]

You can't polish a turd.

I hope these guys can

Lol what?

 

[Doffen]

Do we got ourselves a leaked cover art?

AR, not BR?
That shit is fake as Barbies smile.

 

[Breakfast at Noon]

Not too far fledged. However if anyone's porting Halo, it better be first party studio like 343.
.

Like Halo CE was ported by 343i?

oh..wait...

 

[JaseC]

If it is just a straight port I don't think a studio would assign a concept artist to the project. It's not like Halo CE Anniversary where the game had remade levels/maps that needed new looks that had to be concepted first.

He may be working on the project in a different, though similar, capacity.

There were AMD beta driver listings as well.

It's in the Steam registry and back in December a changenumber update slipped through that was unrelated to Valve's own spring cleaning.

 

[Calm Killer]

What's easier? What's more cost effective? What have they done already in the first Anni?

Remake an entire online mode from a two generation old game, from scratch, and hope it plays identically to the original, and include every single level.

or

Port over a version of Halo 4's multiplayer mode, slap up a few Halo 2 levels and tweak a few gametype settings.

Here's a hint: look at CEA.

I understand where you are coming from, but the porting the MP (or lack there of) was the biggest issue most people had with HCEA. Which I understand why they did it, but it still was an issue for people. The two main reasons were they didn't want to split the community between two games and there was no netcode for HCE. This would have been a completely new online game if they added the MP to HCEA. H2 already has netcode and was built around online play. Now mind you I am no programmer, but updating netcode vs starting from scratch should be easier. Tell me if I am completely off base.

We don't know how long Saber and Certain Affinity have been working on the game. Its possible that it could have been in production for years now. Certain Affinity could be working on the MP and Saber on the single player. That would make since, considering most of CA actually worked on Halo MP.

The point of this is to move Xbox Systems out the door. Halo 2 with a full original MP will do that. So I don't think the cost will be an issue. Its about moving the product and increasing the install base. Also 343 is looking to improve their brand an image. Give the people what they want and they will love you.

 

[Calm Killer]

I just want co-op to work this time.

Surely that's not hard is it? Fuck the "old graphics" switching and just make sure co-op works please.



Not exactly the same scenario. You can't just take Halo 4's multiplayer and throw more maps in on Xbox One. It's a new non-BC console. You're building from scratch regardless. So if you're going to build from scratch, then you go with Halo 2 MP. Warts and all.

What Co-op didn't work? HCEA? I never had any issues with it, that is why I ask.

 

[Neuro]

Phil's comment on my tweet nixel pixel is my twitter handle

http://imgur.com/KS0Rame

Sorry cant post the image

 

[wwm0nkey]

So HigherLevel found this. Phil Spencer pretty much confirming Halo 2 Anniversary but that they need to wait for the official reveal to talk about it.

link

 

[Neuro]

So HigherLevel found this. Phil Spencer pretty much confirming Halo 2 Anniversary but that they need to wait for the official reveal to talk about it.

link

Haha...this is my question , i cant seem to post the image...

 

[wwm0nkey]

Haha...this is my question , i cant seem to post the image...

got you covered

 

[BigEvilTurtle]

Well that pretty much confirms it, right?

 

[wwm0nkey]

Well that pretty much confirms it, right?

Pretty much, like really he just told us we have to wait until they show it at the news event lol

 

[El_Chino]

Pretty much, like really he just told us we have to wait until they show it at the news event lol

Gdc?

 

[wwm0nkey]

Gdc?

According to the leak they are going to show it this or next month at some event, GDC is a maybe but I wouldn't count on it, though it could be a good way to show off some new tech....

 

[BigEvilTurtle]

Gdc?

Given the leaked release date, that's probably more likely than E3 I think. More time to draw in Halo fans to the One.

 

[Syphon Filter]

This Phil dude is cool, stealth revealing things lol.

 

[BigEvilTurtle]

This Phil dude is cool, stealth revealing things lol.

That was as stealthy as though he'd shouted, "I'M HIDDEN GUYS, DON'T LOOK."

 

[dragonelite]

According to the leak they are going to show it this or next month at some event, GDC is a maybe but I wouldn't count on it, though it could be a good way to show off some new tech....

Maybe both microsoft and sony will have a feb showcase?
Microsoft used to hold an X event in feb, maybe they will again.

 

[wwm0nkey]

That was as stealthy as though he'd shouted, "I'M HIDDEN GUYS, DON'T LOOK."

So stealthy

 

[Defect]

got you covered

I'm getting excited for Halo again.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Also immediately before this tweet he did reply to the "news"(leaks) that happened this week

 

[Calm Killer]

Also immediately before this tweet he did reply to the "news"(leaks) that happened this week

I don't think it is really shocking that they are making a Halo 2 Anniversary, as it was talked about shortly after HCEA came out by Frankie. I think the surprising thing (at least as far as the leaks go) is all the crap they are adding to the game. And the speculation on the MP. It definitely has a buzz in the air.