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Trasher

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Slark on the other team DCs a few minutes in. Says game is safe to leave. Everyone on my team leaves. I leave. Game gives me a loss and I lose 24 rating.

wat
 
Why help with ganks, when you can Q creep waves for all that sweet, sweet farm CM shouldn't be getting?

Or when CM is jungling and we're chasing a kill we could get it instead of hoping to walk behind them praying they slow down.

Or when there's an invis invoker, we could lock him down so I can ulti as LC.

That would be too advance.
 

TxdoHawk

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Speaking of CM, a Bounty Hunter made me very, very sad yesterday, I had to spend most of endgame buying a pile of Sentry Wards to avoid getting constantly ganked. We did eventually win, though.
 

Pratfall

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Two Questions:

1) How do you build early fighting PA? I am so sick of battlefury on her. Something like Phase, Drums, Yasha?

2) I want to learn a jungler and Echantress has caught my eye. Is there a good guide for efficient jungling with Enchantress? Should you build typical support items on her or should your goal be urn --> Aghs rush? Also, what is the best way to set up hot keys for controlling your creep? I honestly never play any heroes that require micro so I am starting from square one.

Thanks.
 

Pratfall

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Speaking of CM, a Bounty Hunter made me very, very sad yesterday, I had to spend most of endgame buying a pile of Sentry Wards to avoid getting constantly ganked. We did eventually win, though.

This happens to me a fair amount and it tends to be to the detriment of the BH's team. If he is solo ganking you, he is giving no track gold to his team and BH makes a lousy carry.

Sorry for the double post :(
 

Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
1) How do you build early fighting PA? I am so sick of battlefury on her. Something like Phase, Drums, Yasha?

I got bored once and tried this attack speed thing with Mjollnir, AC, S&Y and it was fucking dumb. Probably just failed cause I didn't get Midas too though.
 

manfestival

Member
Two Questions:

1) How do you build early fighting PA? I am so sick of battlefury on her. Something like Phase, Drums, Yasha?

2) I want to learn a jungler and Echantress has caught my eye. Is there a good guide for efficient jungling with Enchantress? Should you build typical support items on her or should your goal be urn --> Aghs rush? Also, what is the best way to set up hot keys for controlling your creep? I honestly never play any heroes that require micro so I am starting from square one.

Thanks.

enchantress is so versatile with her build. The core items for her are fine for jungling and definitely have to get enchant ability first. after that, its kind of whatever. Just make sure you gank if you get centaur early.
 

manfestival

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This looks like one of my garbage-tier lineups. Not one support hero to be seen. That's why I usually play support — how can you get decent farm when you're competing with all 4 of your teammates?

I have noticed that to fix this issue(unless there are two supports present), I will go jungle. especially if the enemy team has a tanky line up
 

Razzer

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Two Questions:

1) How do you build early fighting PA? I am so sick of battlefury on her. Something like Phase, Drums, Yasha?

2) I want to learn a jungler and Echantress has caught my eye. Is there a good guide for efficient jungling with Enchantress? Should you build typical support items on her or should your goal be urn --> Aghs rush? Also, what is the best way to set up hot keys for controlling your creep? I honestly never play any heroes that require micro so I am starting from square one.

Thanks.

Phase - BKB/Basher - Basher/BKB - Situational depending on what they have. You usually want to get a Satanic and Abyssal at some point though. Drums can be good, so can a yasha into S&Y. With evasion now stacking you could get a butterfly if they are not getting an MKB. Just as long as you get the Basher and BKB up pronto you should be good.
 
I have noticed that to fix this issue(unless there are two supports present), I will go jungle. especially if the enemy team has a tanky line up

I don't have the time to practice at the moment, but could you (or anyone else) tell me which heroes currently are the easiest to jungle with? And what order do you farm the camps in? I always feel like I have way too much downtime when I jungle, and I always seem to fall behind.
 

Razzer

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I don't have the time to practice at the moment, but could you (or anyone else) tell me which heroes currently are the easiest to jungle with? And what order do you farm the camps in? I always feel like I have way too much downtime when I jungle, and I always seem to fall behind.

Legion isn't the best jungler, but she's definitely the easiest of the ones where going jungle isn't garbage. Just go to a camp with points in your E and afk farm.
 
I don't have the time to practice at the moment, but could you (or anyone else) tell me which heroes currently are the easiest to jungle with? And what order do you farm the camps in? I always feel like I have way too much downtime when I jungle, and I always seem to fall behind.

Nature's Prophet...just remember to look for ganking opportunities...
 

manfestival

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I don't have the time to practice at the moment, but could you (or anyone else) tell me which heroes currently are the easiest to jungle with? And what order do you farm the camps in? I always feel like I have way too much downtime when I jungle, and I always seem to fall behind.

NP is easy but the best way to jungle him is something you might want to watch a video on. Some people require tricks early on to have better jungling starts, otherwise the jungler status in game usually holds true. Enchantress is such a beast in all phases when jungling, however I choose doom or naix (people will argue for lane naix but jungle ganks with him for easy kills). However, those two guys require more farm than chen or enchantress to be effective in the early and mid phases.

However, I think I am more obsessed with jungling as I played league for so long and I was a designated(mostly self appointed) jungler most of the time. The habit stuck with me but its been fairly effective. Its just much harder to get used to it. Also managing runes is HUGE, regardless of whether your midlaner uses them or not.
 
I don't have the time to practice at the moment, but could you (or anyone else) tell me which heroes currently are the easiest to jungle with? And what order do you farm the camps in? I always feel like I have way too much downtime when I jungle, and I always seem to fall behind.

Enigma pretty easy to jungle (once you learn his ins and outs, you can just leave his eidolons at rank 2). Chen is easy to jungle but harder to micro. Enchantress is easy, but hard to master. Prophet is pretty easy.
 

F#A#Oo

Banned
Two Questions:

1) How do you build early fighting PA? I am so sick of battlefury on her. Something like Phase, Drums, Yasha?

Phase>Basher>AC

After that it's up to you depending on what you're up against so BKB, MKB, Deso and Abyssal.

Or you can go Armlet with her early too. What you're going to have to do is participate actively in ganks because you can't farm with this build. Between the assists and kills you should be well on your way to building up your Basher and AC.

I'm not a fan of drums/yasha on PA those items are for carry's who need safety like Spectre or need to be race car fast Slark and Razor. I find the faster you get PA's core items up the faster the game snowballs in your favour.

You will be a bullet train but fragile which is fine if you're ahead.
 
Invoker so op now...

Literally the dumbest hero, once again. Nerf icewall going through bkb or nerf his wex speed increase if you want to keep ghost walk and emp at such a retarded retarded level of gooodness.
 

rezuth

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Oh it was definitely after, and I know that rule, but my team just all left and the text even said it was safe to leave. #SoloDoloQ

I'm not sure you are allowed to leave ranked games. The game won't end if the whole team leaves either.

Two Questions:

1) How do you build early fighting PA? I am so sick of battlefury on her. Something like Phase, Drums, Yasha?

2) I want to learn a jungler and Echantress has caught my eye. Is there a good guide for efficient jungling with Enchantress? Should you build typical support items on her or should your goal be urn --> Aghs rush? Also, what is the best way to set up hot keys for controlling your creep? I honestly never play any heroes that require micro so I am starting from square one.

Thanks.

1. I would say if the other team has any kind of stuns or magic dmg you need to rush a bkb, after that I would say lifesteal and just high dmg. I never build bfury on her, it's really a waste.

2. Enchantress is one of those junglers where you have to build from what the team needs. She has a really easy time farming so if you buy gloves first item you can easily have a Midas 4min in or so. Once you have some farm just try and see what the team needs, maybe you could go for team fight with orchid or sheep. Need some more survive ability? Mek or pipe, it all depends on the game. Her AGHs is pretty good so I would recommend it as an option if you can reach it.
 

F!ReW!Re

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I'm not sure you are allowed to leave ranked games. The game won't end if the whole team leaves either.



1. I would say if the other team has any kind of stuns or magic dmg you need to rush a bkb, after that I would say lifesteal and just high dmg. I never build bfury on her, it's really a waste.

2. Enchantress is one of those junglers where you have to build from what the team needs. She has a really easy time farming so if you buy gloves first item you can easily have a Midas 4min in or so. Once you have some farm just try and see what the team needs, maybe you could go for team fight with orchid or sheep. Need some more survive ability? Mek or pipe, it all depends on the game. Her AGHs is pretty good so I would recommend it as an option if you can reach it.

You on tonight Rez?
 

Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
Slark on the other team DCs a few minutes in. Says game is safe to leave. Everyone on my team leaves. I leave. Game gives me a loss and I lose 24 rating.

wat

Safe to leave just means you don't receive an abandon. If someone disconnects on the other team you should still try to win because it's going to count.

The game won't end if the whole team leaves either.

The game will end if an entire team disconnects.
 
All this tb gem nonsense makes me glad I'm not into metal album covers
Yea I don't get it either, all this market manipulation and buying and selling just to get more valve bux to do it all again sounds really weird to me. I've spent a total of like 14 dollars on dota 2, just on a couple of badass costumes for axe and nyx that I really wanted.
 

shira

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Yea I don't get it either, all this market manipulation and buying and selling just to get more valve bux to do it all again sounds really weird to me. I've spent a total of like 14 dollars on dota 2, just on a couple of badass costumes for axe and nyx that I really wanted.
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badass courier coming up

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??? no abs shots. . . .
 

Trasher

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Safe to leave just means you don't receive an abandon. If someone disconnects on the other team you should still try to win because it's going to count.

Well like I said, the other four people on my team had already left so... 1v4 isn't my thing! And I noticed that next to my DCs on my profile it added a number in parentheses next to it. What do those stand for exactly? Ranked abandons?
 

Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
Well like I said, the other four people on my team had already left so... 1v4 isn't my thing! And I noticed that next to my DCs on my profile it added a number in parentheses next to it. What do those stand for exactly? Ranked abandons?

Party abandons, you were in a party with someone who abandoned.
 

F!ReW!Re

Member
Unless the game has been bugged for some weeks it does not end ranked games if the whole team abandons.



I hope to be home in two hours or so :) I heard you might need someone that's a professional feeder.

I need to be released from solo queue hell......
 

Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
Unless the game has been bugged for some weeks it does not end ranked games if the whole team abandons.

Does it really? I guess I've never had it happen in a ranked game. So they just want you to busywork it until they end, that's annoying.
 
I have noticed that to fix this issue(unless there are two supports present), I will go jungle. especially if the enemy team has a tanky line up

Claim mid, tell someone else to jungle so I can go solo-offlane, jungle, I'll try anything before competing for farm in a lane. Solo queueing a lot teaches you to trust your teammates as little as possible until proven otherwise.

In what situations does picking WR make sense? She seems like a jack of all, master of none type of hero. Decent support, decent offlaner, decent semi-carry, but not great at any of those. Are there specific heroes she counters or something?
 

manfestival

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Or play CM with me :-D
You and your obsession with trilane! lol
Claim mid, tell someone else to jungle so I can go solo-offlane, jungle, I'll try anything before competing for farm in a lane. Solo queueing a lot teaches you to trust your teammates as little as possible until proven otherwise.
I feel like solo teaches me to be better at what i do in order to compensate for another player. However, that might be the bossy person in me wanting to tell someone to switch lanes or telling them what to do
 

M.D

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This game is un-fucking real.

Won some games and got some nice teams I'm now getting the exact opposite for a lot more games, like always.

Its not the first shitty match of the day, but this one was mind-blowing.
Playing USE Ranked AP, this guy says he'll mid but someone randoms TA before he picks (he waited a while after saying he'll mid) and asks for mid.

This guy then starts talking, sounding like a dick.
TA tells him to go mid, but he won't and picks DP, goes safelane with TA and acts like a complete fucking dick for no fucking reason.

We didn't even have a courier because this guy obviously won't pick support, so I buy the courier and drop it at base, this guy goes to base and won't drop the courier, then started feeding and left after someone on the other team left.

I would honestly rather pay a monthly fee or something to get a better community in this game, 90% of the people I get in solo que are just disgusting human beings.
 

Raytow

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In what situations does picking WR make sense? She seems like a jack of all, master of none type of hero. Decent support, decent offlaner, decent semi-carry, but not great at any of those. Are there specific heroes she counters or something?
Her stunt is game breaking, but is way too situational, dunno, wish she were an AGI hero instead of INT, fits the theme better.
I keep seeing the mouse 3 and mouse 4 for items, is that better than z and x?
 

RS4-

Member
Her stunt is game breaking, but is way too situational, dunno, wish she were an AGI hero instead of INT, fits the theme better.
I keep seeing the mouse 2 and mouse 3 for items, is that better than z and x?

Whatever you prefer. I have mine 1-4, last two slots on my side mouse buttons and chat on z lol.

Some got item slot on spacebar, courier on different hotkeys than default.

Speaking of the Dota community, everybody should take 45 minutes and watch this game.

http://www.twitch.tv/cat6669/c/3671454

I wish there was a way to help get this AM and Bounty perma banned from Dota.

Have to step out for dinner, what's the tl;dr for it.
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
she needs to clean her room legit

I dunno man, that room is like 1,000 times cleaner than mine was when I was her age. Maybe I just needed to clean my room legit.

Have to step out for dinner, what's the tl;dr for it.
tl;dr she asks for a chick upgrade, revealing the fact that she has a vagina, and immediate the two guys are like "Is that a girl? We're fucked" and then proceed to barf out every misogynist stereotype you can imagine while flaming her, asking if she's hot (she links them to her stream" and then saying stuff like the VOD title "she's a solid 4, I'd fuck her but I'd feel bad about it in the morning" etc.

I'm hardly a champion for the rights of "grrl gamers" or whatever but those guys got gross real fast and never let up even tho she was playing real well in that game.
 

JustinBB7

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Whatever you prefer. I have mine 1-4, last two slots on my side mouse buttons and chat on z lol.

Some got item slot on spacebar, courier on different hotkeys than default.



Have to step out for dinner, what's the tl;dr for it.

I skipped through it, she gets flamed for being a girl once, then she calls him a virgin and gets flamed more.

If she wasn't a girl she would have been flamed for something else, it's just how Dota games are for some reason. I got flamed yesterday in a beast game because I kept dying as warlock. I had no boots, one jump from the beast on me and I was dead, because we made it till like 3 minutes left. I dunno what they were complaining about, we pretty much made it till the end.

These days I just mute/report them and move on, much better. Fighting back only makes things worse because people just start typing all game.
 

manfestival

Member
ugh so I tried to make a buc dota 2 avatar as a person that never alters or does any sort of image work... I think it looks ok despite not being what I wanted for concept.. granted its very simple. just wanted an avatar tied into dota 2 bucs
 
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