I know you're just here to troll, but just so that no one gets confused....The three games I mentioned were exclusive to the XBONEX.....but since your buddy lort mentioned TR and Destiny, I thought I would show even PRO has lots of multiplats that are 4k too.....In essence, that in no way signifies that the PRO and PS5 games will be similar with not much difference between them, and the same applies for the XBONEX which has less 4k games.....PS5 games will be at the level of a new generation and not at the level of PRO or XBONEX, despite these consoles having a few 4k native games....
So I think you know that I was only referring to exclusives, and for anyone who states I'm lying, I have presented a list to corroborate.....What have those who say I'm lying presented except troll.....As far as exclusives go...The pro has, Wipeout, MLB The Show, TLOU-R, Miku, Kingdom Hearts just to name a few...That doesn't make any difference to the quality you will see on PS5......Even the best looking games on PS4 at 1080p resolution will be tangibly below PS5 quality at 4k.....especially PS5 exclusives...
Him saying there is only 3 true 4k games on 1X. It's a lie and he knows it, but now he's twisted into his own meaning because I wasn't the only one that noticed. He just can't help himself.
Agreed. Ps5 coming out first makes more sense because their midgen refresh came out a year before the X
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...this statement, which is factually false....... Did PS3/360 muddy the waters for PS4? Did ISS look similar in graphical quality to infamous1? Did Shadowfall look just like Killzone 3? Did Ryse look similar to the best looking 360 action titles? Was there was very little difference..? So XBONE-S and XBONEX are only going be marketed as fullHD and UHD consoles when the PS5 arrives, so how are they being marketed now? So if they're marketed as true 1080p and true 4k consoles in 2020, people are going to be confused on what PS5 offers because it will only be a UHD console too? Is that the logic....I mean if that post was not trolling, I dont know what is......So if I buy a 750ti and a 1080ti and they're both marketed as a 4k UHD GPU, there's no way I could tell the difference, because marketing has muddied the waters?
Yeah I get it...
I don't have to explain anything to people who don't follow conversations instead of just trolling and drivebying everywhere, perhaps you should read instead of doing what you do. If you see me list Forza7, Killer Instinct and Super Lucky as native games, you know I'm talking about exclusives on XBONEX, because why? They are exclusive to the console?........But I guess this is hard for you to understand because you felt your console of choice was accosted......The same way it was hard for you to understand that Cerny meant 8TF would do 4k across the board and that he didn't mean "that the only GPU that can do 4k is an 8TF machine"....but I guess it's just hard for you to put obvious and well stated things together, so there's that.
Still the point again, this generation of vanilla and mid gen consoles are not going to be anything similar to PS5 in terms of asset quality, resolution, ai, physics. It will take on a whole new level just as in any other gen before it, even more so next gen with a massive boost in CPU performance.......in vast contrast to.....
...this statement, which is factually false....... Did PS3/360 muddy the waters for PS4? Did ISS look similar in graphical quality to infamous1? Did Shadowfall look just like Killzone 3? Did Ryse look similar to the best looking 360 action titles? Was there was very little difference..? So XBONE-S and XBONEX are only going be marketed as fullHD and UHD consoles when the PS5 arrives, so how are they being marketed now? So if they're marketed as true 1080p and true 4k consoles in 2020, people are going to be confused on what PS5 offers because it will only be a UHD console too? Is that the logic....I mean if that post was not trolling, I dont know what is......So if I buy a 750ti and a 1080ti and they're both marketed as a 4k UHD GPU, there's no way I could tell the difference, because marketing has muddied the waters?
This is what you get this gen on 1.84-4.2TF.......What do you think?...
Gears 4 does exist, you know, and is an excellent example of a game running 4k and solid 30fps with enhanced effects over the base version. There is also Forza Horizon 3, PUBG, and Sea of Thieves. All console exclusives. It is disingenuous to exclused titles because they do not fit into your console only narative that MS isnt a part of anymore. They are not doing console exclusives anymore with their games and you know this. Silly to not count them to try and push a console warrior list mentality. There are also many 3rd party games that are 4k native as well and 3rd party dynamic 4k games that actually reach 4k.
I don't have to explain anything to people who don't follow conversations instead of just trolling and drivebying everywhere, perhaps you should read instead of doing what you do. If you see me list Forza7, Killer Instinct and Super Lucky as native games, you know I'm talking about exclusives on XBONEX, because why? They are exclusive to the console?........But I guess this is hard for you to understand because you felt your console of choice was accosted......The same way it was hard for you to understand that Cerny meant 8TF would do 4k across the board and that he didn't mean "that the only GPU that can do 4k is an 8TF machine"....but I guess it's just hard for you to put obvious and well stated things together, so there's that.
Still the point again, this generation of vanilla and mid gen consoles are not going to be anything similar to PS5 in terms of asset quality, resolution, ai, physics. It will take on a whole new level just as in any other gen before it, even more so next gen with a massive boost in CPU performance.......in vast contrast to.....
...this statement, which is factually false....... Did PS3/360 muddy the waters for PS4? Did ISS look similar in graphical quality to infamous1? Did Shadowfall look just like Killzone 3? Did Ryse look similar to the best looking 360 action titles? Was there was very little difference..? So XBONE-S and XBONEX are only going be marketed as fullHD and UHD consoles when the PS5 arrives, so how are they being marketed now? So if they're marketed as true 1080p and true 4k consoles in 2020, people are going to be confused on what PS5 offers because it will only be a UHD console too? Is that the logic....I mean if that post was not trolling, I dont know what is......So if I buy a 750ti and a 1080ti and they're both marketed as a 4k UHD GPU, there's no way I could tell the difference, because marketing has muddied the waters?
This is what you get this gen on 1.84-4.2TF.......What do you think?...
I don't have to explain anything to people who don't follow conversations instead of just trolling and drivebying everywhere, perhaps you should read instead of doing what you do. If you see me list Forza7, Killer Instinct and Super Lucky as native games, you know I'm talking about exclusives on XBONEX, because why? They are exclusive to the console?........But I guess this is hard for you to understand because you felt your console of choice was accosted......The same way it was hard for you to understand that Cerny meant 8TF would do 4k across the board and that he didn't mean "that the only GPU that can do 4k is an 8TF machine"....but I guess it's just hard for you to put obvious and well stated things together, so there's that.
Still the point again, this generation of vanilla and mid gen consoles are not going to be anything similar to PS5 in terms of asset quality, resolution, ai, physics. It will take on a whole new level just as in any other gen before it, even more so next gen with a massive boost in CPU performance.......in vast contrast to.....
...this statement, which is factually false....... Did PS3/360 muddy the waters for PS4? Did ISS look similar in graphical quality to infamous1? Did Shadowfall look just like Killzone 3? Did Ryse look similar to the best looking 360 action titles? Was there was very little difference..? So XBONE-S and XBONEX are only going be marketed as fullHD and UHD consoles when the PS5 arrives, so how are they being marketed now? So if they're marketed as true 1080p and true 4k consoles in 2020, people are going to be confused on what PS5 offers because it will only be a UHD console too? Is that the logic....I mean if that post was not trolling, I dont know what is......So if I buy a 750ti and a 1080ti and they're both marketed as a 4k UHD GPU, there's no way I could tell the difference, because marketing has muddied the waters?
This is what you get this gen on 1.84-4.2TF.......What do you think?...
But your reasoning isn't correct. The expensive launch PS3 didn't come out with a cheaper $399 PS3 alongside it. 360 is from a different company so that's competition and isn't the same. Also the same with the PS4 and Xbox One, competitors and the more expensive one was weaker.
Don't be daft. There's 3!
There's skyrim, skyrim vr and elder scrolls online
As I said, both lists keep growing, there are even games released the last few days that are 4k, that still does not make them true 4k consoles across the board and that certainly does not mean that PS5 games will show little difference between current gen games and this one, which was the point.....
So what will PS5 be marketed as if not a true 4k box? 4k meaning across the board.....PS4 was 1080p across the board, PRO and XBONEX are not 4k across the board....PRO and XBONEX won't have the asset quality you will see in PS5 games, the physics etc...So every other gen people were able to see the difference except the PS5 gen? All because of XBONEX..amirite?
Is anybody else reading this, what does this mean? So a Zen will only give 2x perf over a jaguar relative to framerate and thats still negligible to you??? So you minimize a 30 to 60fps divide, but on top of that you fail to see that a better CPU also offers better physics, AI, drawcalls on top of better framerates....So you expect ground up 4k games with 4k assets with enhanced physics and AI to be comparable to 1080p games at medium quality rezzed up to 4k and DR resolutions? So of course, it makes sense to say or predict that PS5 will only have 16GB of ram and it will only be 8-9TF, because you are now on that "the difference won't be much train".... Is it just like there isn't much difference between the 4.2TF vs 6TF consoles? I mean the 8-9TF PS5 will have a 3TF divide and a much better CPU and maybe faster ram too (GDDR6)....So if you won't be able to tell the difference with such a subpar PS5 upgrade, I guess you also believe there's absolutely no difference between PRO and XBONEX right now? Afterall, It's only 1.8TF apart with the same assets, same jaguar cpu et al......
Halo 5 is not native 4k it's DR, State of decay 2 is not even out yet so how can you confirm that, did you pixel count your early copy?
or even Skyrim remastered without reverting to DR at 30fps......Yes, there's the elder scrolls online......If you want the SP RPG, there's Skyrim remastered too....
As I said, both lists keep growing, there are even games released the last few days that are 4k, that still does not make them true 4k consoles across the board and that certainly does not mean that PS5 games will show little difference between current gen games and this one, which was the point.....
So what will PS5 be marketed as if not a true 4k box? 4k meaning across the board.....PS4 was 1080p across the board, PRO and XBONEX are not 4k across the board....PRO and XBONEX won't have the asset quality you will see in PS5 games, the physics etc...So every other gen people were able to see the difference except the PS5 gen? All because of XBONEX..amirite?
Is anybody else reading this, what does this mean? So a Zen will only give 2x perf over a jaguar relative to framerate and thats still negligible to you??? So you minimize a 30 to 60fps divide, but on top of that you fail to see that a better CPU also offers better physics, AI, drawcalls on top of better framerates....So you expect ground up 4k games with 4k assets with enhanced physics and AI to be comparable to 1080p games at medium quality rezzed up to 4k and DR resolutions? So of course, it makes sense to say or predict that PS5 will only have 16GB of ram and it will only be 8-9TF, because you are now on that "the difference won't be much train".... Is it just like there isn't much difference between the 4.2TF vs 6TF consoles? I mean the 8-9TF PS5 will have a 3TF divide and a much better CPU and maybe faster ram too (GDDR6)....So if you won't be able to tell the difference with such a subpar PS5 upgrade, I guess you also believe there's absolutely no difference between PRO and XBONEX right now? Afterall, It's only 1.8TF apart with the same assets, same jaguar cpu et al......
Halo 5 is not native 4k it's DR, State of decay 2 is not even out yet so how can you confirm that, did you pixel count your early copy?
And though Halo Wars 2 is 4k it's also missing effects, and you can add it to your list no problem, yet, it tears and falls to 20fps anytime there's heavy alpha on screen, perhaps it should be at a lower resolution, pubg the same, falls to some of the lowest framerates when there's heavy alpha on screen at 4k and we already know it's general performance.....I mean it's great to say 4k, but at least the games should run well at 4k to show the machine is capable of doing so...I mean Sea of thieves is 4k with probably the lowest FOV ever, playing this at 30fps will literally get people vomitting everywhere on top of motion sickness....Fortnite looks much better and runs at 60fps, which is a greater pull on the GPU.....So you have not been honest with me here, at least all the games I mentioned are 4k native all the time and corroborated....Also, KI drops frames, so maybe it should be DR, just like they did with PS3 when there was heavy alpha in SF4... and Super lucky drops frames constantly for such a game, that one even surprised me...So to some of the games, 4k yes, but it's looking like the hardware can't always push it with aplomb.....which says so much for negligible differences with XBONEX vs PS5, because I'm sure PS5 will have a hardtime running Super Lucky Tales at 4k locked 60fps
In any case, why are you guys in a PS5 rumor thread if all your'll are going to say is that XBONEX is going to muddy the waters and make PS5 games look negligible.....From the looks of it you guys already have a beast of a console.....
Yes, there's the elder scrolls online......If you want the SP RPG, there's Skyrim remastered too....
Id say a lot of that is on bethesda for focusing more on remasters and ports. "Elder Scrolls 6? Nah, lets just poop out a few more skyrim re-releases"
Same reason you're in xbox threads talking about PS4P. Too discuss, right?
As I said, both lists keep growing, there are even games released the last few days that are 4k, that still does not make them true 4k consoles across the board and that certainly does not mean that PS5 games will show little difference between current gen games and this one, which was the point.....
So what will PS5 be marketed as if not a true 4k box? 4k meaning across the board.....PS4 was 1080p across the board, PRO and XBONEX are not 4k across the board....PRO and XBONEX won't have the asset quality you will see in PS5 games, the physics etc...So every other gen people were able to see the difference except the PS5 gen? All because of XBONEX..amirite?
Is anybody else reading this, what does this mean? So a Zen will only give 2x perf over a jaguar relative to framerate and thats still negligible to you??? So you minimize a 30 to 60fps divide, but on top of that you fail to see that a better CPU also offers better physics, AI, drawcalls on top of better framerates....So you expect ground up 4k games with 4k assets with enhanced physics and AI to be comparable to 1080p games at medium quality rezzed up to 4k and DR resolutions? So of course, it makes sense to say or predict that PS5 will only have 16GB of ram and it will only be 8-9TF, because you are now on that "the difference won't be much train".... Is it just like there isn't much difference between the 4.2TF vs 6TF consoles? I mean the 8-9TF PS5 will have a 3TF divide and a much better CPU and maybe faster ram too (GDDR6)....So if you won't be able to tell the difference with such a subpar PS5 upgrade, I guess you also believe there's absolutely no difference between PRO and XBONEX right now? Afterall, It's only 1.8TF apart with the same assets, same jaguar cpu et al......
Halo 5 is not native 4k it's DR, State of decay 2 is not even out yet so how can you confirm that, did you pixel count your early copy?
And though Halo Wars 2 is 4k it's also missing effects, and you can add it to your list no problem, yet, it tears and falls to 20fps anytime there's heavy alpha on screen, perhaps it should be at a lower resolution, pubg the same, falls to some of the lowest framerates when there's heavy alpha on screen at 4k and we already know it's general performance.....I mean it's great to say 4k, but at least the games should run well at 4k to show the machine is capable of doing so...I mean Sea of thieves is 4k with probably the lowest FOV ever, playing this at 30fps will literally get people vomitting everywhere on top of motion sickness....Fortnite looks much better and runs at 60fps, which is a greater pull on the GPU.....So you have not been honest with me here, at least all the games I mentioned are 4k native all the time and corroborated....Also, KI drops frames, so maybe it should be DR, just like they did with PS3 when there was heavy alpha in SF4... and Super lucky drops frames constantly for such a game, that one even surprised me...So to some of the games, 4k yes, but it's looking like the hardware can't always push it with aplomb.....which says so much for negligible differences with XBONEX vs PS5, because I'm sure PS5 will have a hardtime running Super Lucky Tales at 4k locked 60fps
In any case, why are you guys in a PS5 rumor thread if all your'll are going to say is that XBONEX is going to muddy the waters and make PS5 games look negligible.....From the looks of it you guys already have a beast of a console.....
Yes, there's the elder scrolls online......If you want the SP RPG, there's Skyrim remastered too....
lol that would actually be interesting
