He comes across like a giant cunt quite a few of his statements. I think a bit of it is he is humoring himself.
Honestly, I can't blame him for those inane questions. Press junkets argh.
He comes across like a giant cunt quite a few of his statements. I think a bit of it is he is humoring himself.
I don't think I was prepared for just how incredibly dull this turned out to be. Thomas Newman's score is so damn boring, and strangely distracting(maybe it was just my theater, but the sound mix was quite bad, making some dialog very hard to hear). There isn't a single exciting set piece in the entire film, with only the train fight threatening to be interesting. Everybody, every single actor, seems bored to be in this movie. And between Sam Mendes static compositions, Lee Harvey's editing, the stunning lack of wit from the script, and the look of the film that seems to either be overblown light from God or deadening beige, its a challenge to keep yourself awake for all 150 agonizingly long minutes. And as bad as the first half was, somehow the second half is even worse, with a central romance with zero sparks or chemistry, a completely wasted Christopher Waltz, pointless retcons, and about 3 anti-climaxes one after another, each more nonsencial than the last. I felt trapped watching this movie. I wanted to escape the theater, but some sense of fandom kept me there.
Thing is, its the kind of bad film that makes you question that fandom. Like maybe this is it for me, this series has clearly gone so far up its own ass, that even on the curve that we often rate James Bond movies, I can't even give it a pass. Then I went back to YouTube, and found that clip of Bond and Vesper on the train. What a night and day difference! A conversation full of wit and character-revealing moments, performed by actors clearly relishing the material, starring a Bond who's cool and handsome but still somebody recognizably human, edited with a smooth rhythm for maximum audience engagement. Then I went through all the other clips, the fantastic action sequences, David Arnold's wonderful score, how a fuckin' poker game had more dramatic stakes and tension than all the sequences in Spectre combined, and then I realized....no, I don't hate James Bond. Its just Spectre that sucks.
I've had enough of Craig, I'm so serious "woe is me" secret assassin Bond. Please, give me back super outrageous and fun Bond who enjoys what he does and shoot terrorists with lasers in outer space.
hell no. that's the kind of thinking that lead to die another day.
I just came back from the theatre and thought I'd write up a good three or four paragraphs detailing just how much this movie sucks but you've seem to hit all the key points. I just want to add what was the point of Mr. White's daughter? Why is she so inept? Bond really shows its age when every single female character is a damsel in distress only serving as a port for Bond to dock into briefly. The recent Mission Impossible film completely shits all over SPECTRE in every way.
I've had enough of Craig, I'm so serious "woe is me" secret assassin Bond. Please, give me back super outrageous and fun Bond who enjoys what he does and shoot terrorists with lasers in outer space.
hell no. that's the kind of thinking that lead to die another day.
i shouldn't be one to talk since I'm seeing it tomorrow but I really freaking doubt (halle berry swimsuit aside) that die another day is better than spectre. y'all must be tripping.
No way, the plot surfing the wave halfway through and bad cgi ensure it's a vastly inferior movie.Die Another Day was more enjoyable than SPECTRE.
Have you seen Die Another Day?
Have you seen Die Another Day?
Hell, the entire first act of DAD was amazing, the movie only "fell apart" once he actually got to the arctic retreat.
C'mon dude the Madonna dominatrix fencing instructor scene? I enjoy DaD for what it is but don't pretend it's a good or defensible movie. I saw xXx instead of DaD on opening weekend and had no regrets. That really says it all.
Agreed. For all my issues with Skyfall, killing her off before she asked to leave the role will remain the single most unforgivable Bond moment as far as I'm concerned. She has elevated every film she's been in and they seem desperate to want to achieve the same thing with Fiennes but he's just not interesting as a character at all.Judi Dench had great chem with Bronsan too. She is hands down the best M and sadly we will probably not get an equal.
Agreed. For all my issues with Skyfall, killing her off before she asked to leave the role will remain the single most unforgivable Bond moment as far as I'm concerned. She has elevated every film she's been in and they seem desperate to want to achieve the same thing with Fiennes but he's just not interesting as a character at all.
Hmm, this is contrary to what I'd heard. I'll have a read up on it (I knew she had some health issues, but thought that she'd said she felt she could continue).The hell you on about? Not sure where you got that from.
Judi Dench made it clear she had to leave the role. She's going blind in real life to the point where she can no longer read scripts.
It was her decision for Skyfall to be the last, even before the script was locked.
A silly creative memorable setpiece, like other Bond films. What does Spectre have to make itself stand out? That's right, fucking nothing.Have you seen Die Another Day?
A silly creative memorable setpiece, like other Bond films. What does Spectre have to make itself stand out? That's right, fucking nothing.
The opener in Mexico City was phenomenal. Atmosphere, action, style, tension, amazing.
But then the rest of the film happened.
Lea Seydoux though, goddamn. What a woman.
It's one of my fav scenes in the whole movie, lol.The rest of the film yeah, but I thought that specific setpiece was impeccably shot and paced. *shrug*
A silly creative memorable setpiece, like other Bond films. What does Spectre have to make itself stand out? That's right, fucking nothing.
A silly creative memorable setpiece, like other Bond films. What does Spectre have to make itself stand out? That's right, fucking nothing.
-Belluci's role was non-existent, despite all the pre-release hype.
lol, I see we're already in full revisionist mode now...
Can't wait until The Force Awakens comes out and dissatisfied fans start going on about, "Well, at least the prequels actually tried something new!"
Have you seen Die Another Day?
Do you have anything specific? I'm looking around and all I can find are articles about how upset she was when she heard they were killing the character off, like this.The hell you on about? Not sure where you got that from.
Judi Dench made it clear she had to leave the role. She's going blind in real life to the point where she can no longer read scripts.
It was her decision for Skyfall to be the last, even before the script was locked.
All have been done in Bond before. And they were just plain unremarkable here. Even the Mexico opening, the impressive part of it isn't the action (i.e. the helicopter) but the crane camerawork leading up to it.The opening scene, the plane chase and the train fight all come to mind.
The opening scene, the plane chase and the train fight all come to mind.
Too bad the pacing and editing were so awful.
I'm hoping to see this with my wife on Friday, and want to make sure my expectations are checked. Overwhelming response seems negative with a few good bits sprinkled here or there.
I'm a huge fan of Connery, early Brosnan, and all of Craig's films. For me, Quantum of Solace is essentially the second half of a story that started in Casino Royale. It literally picks up right after and if you treat it this way, its much more enjoyable. So...is Spectre just a bad Bond in general, or a bad bond compared to what we've been used to with Craig so far?
I thought the end of Skyfall set things up so that all the elements of the regular Bond formula were present. After skyfall, I expected the next film would go back to some great familiar territory. We'd get a big action scene to start, then back to M in his office, giving Bond a mission, some flirting with Moneypenny, then off to the mission. Are people railing against a formulaic Bond being back?
The opening scene, the plane chase and the train fight all come to mind.
Thanks for the info. I think managed expectations will help when we see it!So, good news bad news...
Bond Formula isn't really back. This one has a story more akin to CR/QoS than Skyfall. So that's good news.
Bad news is that the plot itself has some sloppiness-- at least one major transition makes no sense at all (missing or rewritten scene?) and a lot of headscratchers is general. Also, the dialogue is pretty bad for a Bond film. There's a huge mess of wasted potential as well.
Overall I left satisfied, but the criticisms (if not their magnitude) are mostly accurate.
Completely agree. That last section made the film quite enjoyable for me.Wow surprised so many people hating on Skyfall. That last half hour was my favorite part of any of the Craig Bond films.
Oh wow I must have this blocked from my memory. Was this the one where he skates around ice against a green jaguar?Have you seen Die Another Day?
Same thoughts here. That helicopter portion was super dumb and ruined the tension of that opening for me.I liked the Mexico scene only up until the helicopter sequence, in which he proceeds to terrorize the entire district by attempting to kick out the fucking pilot of a careening helicopter.
It was so damn stupid :/
lol, I see we're already in full revisionist mode now...
Can't wait until The Force Awakens comes out and dissatisfied fans start going on about, "Well, at least the prequels actually tried something new!"
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