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[perfectchaos007]

NBC showing the real closing ceremony right now. Johnny Weir, Tara Lipinski and a cart full of booze.

Johnny Weir rocking rainbow colored curlers in his hair. that man is willing to try anything for fashion

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-two-bronze-medals-given-in-Olympic-judo-competitions

I giving you the link because I read it some time a go and still don't understand why they do this
Despite the reasons showed on this text, I still can't see why they couldn't make the two semi final losers fight against each other

I think I'm understanding it. There are 2 semi final losers, and 2 backdraw winners. backdraw winner faces semi final loser for bronze #1, and backdraw winner faces other semi final loser for bronze #2

thanks for the link

 

[Chumly]

6 bronzes will never be better than a gold

total gold > total silver > total bronze > total

none of this points stuff

The whole your either first or last argument is just stupid. A county that can win 6 bronzes is absolutely better than a country that wins one gold. Same goes for athletes.

It's insulting to the athletes and everything that they do to insinuate that silvers and bronzes are worthless. So many of them are so happy to win any medal.

And frankly I thought that this stupid mentality was frowned upon now and days but it doesn't surprise me that it survives on the Internet.

 

[Sean C]

There's some truth to both measurements, I think. People like to win without caveat, and that's what gold is (unless it's a tie). But as a counterexample, for a while, Kenya was #18 on the medals table if you rank golds first, and Canada was #19 -- this was when both countries had four gold, and Kenya was ranked higher because it had four silver whereas Canada had (and still has) three). Kenya had no bronze medals at all (they've since got one), whereas at that point Canada had thirteen (now fifteen). If you asked the Kenyan Olympic Committee whether they'd trade that one silver for thirteen bronze medals, I expect they would have.

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

6 bronzes will never be better than a gold

total gold > total silver > total bronze > total

none of this points stuff

Then they should only start giving medals to the winner.

I have my own point system and it goes like this:

9 points for Gold
3 points for Silver
1 point for Bronze

I guess you can give decimal points for 4th - 10th places too, but I don't because it gets fuzzy, some events don't really have a clear number 4 or 5 or whatever.

 

[diehard]

Total Bronze's being worth more than total medals is just mathematically impossible.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Or

There is no winner outside of the athletes themselves, and the total medal count should not matter to you

 

[perfectchaos007]

Or

There is no winner outside of the athletes themselves, and the total medal count should not matter to you

Well then why the hell would anyone watch sports like horse dressage and like...half the other sports in the olympics. Other than Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps, and maybe Simone Biles are anyone watching the olympics to support the athlete themselves or are they watching to support their countrymen?

 

[numble]

Well then why the hell would anyone watch sports like horse dressage and like...half the other sports in the olympics. Other than Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps, and maybe Simone Biles are anyone watching the olympics to support the athlete themselves or are they watching to support their countrymen?

How are people giving support by watching? A lot of people watch for entertainment. This is especially true with people in the host country at every Olympics, as most events are not going to have the host nation as a favorite.

 

[perfectchaos007]

How are people giving support by watching? A lot of people watch for entertainment. This is especially true with people in the host country at every Olympics, as most events are not going to have the host nation as a favorite.

But most of these sports that are in the olympics, no one watches but once every 4 years. Why? Because they aren't entertaining enough to get a year-round following. What gives fans vested interest is rooting for the athletes from their country. A secondary reason to watch is cheering on the underdog. As popular as Bolt is, I bet only a small fraction of people watched him run at the world championships, pan-am games, or other events they have outside of the olympics.

 

[Peru]

But most of these sports that are in the olympics, no one watches but once every 4 years. Why? Because they aren't entertaining enough to get a year-round following. What gives fans vested interest is rooting for the athletes from their country .

There hasn't even been an athlete from my country competing in like 90% of the events I've watched.

 

[perfectchaos007]

There hasn't even been an athlete from my country competing in like 90% of the events I've watched.

I accept that people watch for different reasons. I just can't get myself to watch sports like synchronized swimming or rhythmic gymnastics unless someone from my country is competing. Those sports are boring to me otherwise. I did watch the mens soccer final today because I wanted Brazil to win one for the land. So it's not like I'm ONLY watching my country's athletes compete, but its definitely the primary reason I watch. TBH I didn't even watch any of the handball competitions because USA didn't qualify for the Olympics. I hear that sport is intense so if they qualify for Tokyo I'll watch then

 

[Acorn]

The whole your either first or last argument is just stupid. A county that can win 6 bronzes is absolutely better than a country that wins one gold. Same goes for athletes.

It's insulting to the athletes and everything that they do to insinuate that silvers and bronzes are worthless. So many of them are so happy to win any medal.

And frankly I thought that this stupid mentality was frowned upon now and days but it doesn't surprise me that it survives on the Internet.

That's not what he's saying.

He stated a fact - a gold is worth more than a silver and a silver is worth more than a bronze and so on.

You've built a nice strawman. Something can be worth more than something else without it being worthless. Even competing in the olympics is a worthy achievement and nobody has said any different.

 

[bjaelke]

quality v quantity

 

[bobnowhere]

So, what price on Peter Sagan winning the MTB? Because he's Peter Sagan and he can do just about anything.

Strange he sat out the road race considering GVA won it and Sagan is a much better version of GVA. The One-dayers must have really over estimated the course.

 

[AxeMan]

They should only give out gold medals. If you don't come first you just wasted yours and everyone elses time

 

[bjaelke]

So, what price on Peter Sagan winning the MTB? Because he's Peter Sagan and he can do just about anything.

Strange he sat out the road race considering GVA won it and Sagan is a much better version of GVA. The One-dayers must have really over estimated the course.

Surprisingly low odds on him doing it today. I personally can't see him beating Nino Schurter but maybe being such a huge favourite will get to him - that happened in the women's race yesterday.

 

[numble]

But most of these sports that are in the olympics, no one watches but once every 4 years. Why? Because they aren't entertaining enough to get a year-round following. What gives fans vested interest is rooting for the athletes from their country. A secondary reason to watch is cheering on the underdog. As popular as Bolt is, I bet only a small fraction of people watched him run at the world championships, pan-am games, or other events they have outside of the olympics.

Well the Olympics lets you watch a whole bunch of sports altogether in a short spurt--it is much more efficient than following multiple sports through their seasons which last several seasons.

Your reason that it is to cheer on the country doesn't make that much sense following your logic, because every sport has a world championship every year (or every 2 years), where countries compete to be the best in swimming, volleyball, track and field, etc. and it's not like those world championships are followed as much as the Olympics due to a desire to cheer on your countrymen.

The Olympics are popular around the world, and it is not because people are cheering their countrymen. Otherwise it'd be very unpopular very fast, given the unbalanced medal standings.

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

So fucking sad after Beijing and London.

Hell even the commonwealth games here in Glasgow was packed for everything everytime. Tickets were like gold dust for T&F

I've got a great photo somewhere of the queue in the streets outside Hampden Park; the atmosphere in the stadium was incredible.

 

[mclem]

Ticket prices are stupid:

£68 for the shittest events
£250 for the best events

Average month pay in Brazil £248.

I saw three sessions at London 2012 - the opening ceremony, the men's 100m final and the men's 4x100m final. I bought the cheapest ticket each time. I only paid £120.12 total.

 

[El Topo]

Ticket prices are stupid:

£68 for the shittest events
£250 for the best events

Average month pay in Brazil £248.

It's not just that. A large amount of tickets is usually given out to sponsors. What happened to those tickets? Officially you can't get tickets for many events, yet the stadium is almost empty. Why is that?

 

[Jamie OD]

It's not just that. A large amount of tickets is usually given out to sponsors. What happened to those tickets?

For London they ended up going back on sale. The tickets for table tennis finals I got for example were in the "Olympic Family" section. It ended up being a mixture of corporate types, athletes, military people and the general public sitting there.

 

[War Peaceman]

For London they ended up going back on sale. The tickets for table tennis finals I got for example were in the "Olympic Family" section. It ended up being a mixture of corporate types, athletes, military people and the general public sitting there.

London 2012 should go down as an all time classic Olympic Games.

 

[mclem]

China within just 1 gold of team GB. China currently has more overall medals than GB which will only come into play if there's a tie for numbers of golds.

...that's not how *any* conventional metric works.

 

[Timbuktu]

London 2012 should go down as an all time classic Olympic Games.

It was peak London and peak Olympics. There'll be a lot of nostalgia for London 2012.

...that's not how *any* conventional metric works.

Not for Americans of China, I guess.

 

[mclem]

Well then why the hell would anyone watch sports like horse dressage and like...half the other sports in the olympics. Other than Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps, and maybe Simone Biles are anyone watching the olympics to support the athlete themselves or are they watching to support their countrymen?

There is such a thing as the 'neutral fan', y'know.

 

[Peru]

I watch the olympics precisely because of the joy of the more niche sports in and of themselves.

 

[El Topo]

London 2012 should go down as an all time classic Olympic Games.

It was good. Worse than 2000 and 2004, maybe better than 2008 and definitely better than 2016.

 

[oti]

It was good. Worse than 2000 and 2004, maybe better than 2008 and definitely better than 2016.

👍

Oh god it's almost over. What am I supposed to do with myself once it's over? PLAY VIDEO GAMES?!

 

[El Topo]

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It's hard to top an event that holds a competition in ancient Olympia or has the runners take the route from the site of the Battle of Marathon to Athens.

 

[oti]

It's hard to top an event that holds a competition in ancient Olympia.

Man, that was something special.

 

[mclem]

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-two-bronze-medals-given-in-Olympic-judo-competitions

I giving you the link because I read it some time a go and still don't understand why they do this
Despite the reasons showed on this text, I still can't see why they couldn't make the two semi final losers fight against each other

The logic is due to the nature of a random draw; If you lose to an opponent in the first round, that shows you're a weaker fighter than that opponent, sure - but you could still - plausibly - be better than everyone else in the field if that opponent is ultimately a finalist. The repechage route allows scope for the losing contestants to still prove that they're better than all the other losers in that side of the draw.

(While that link doesn't cover it, the logic in boxing is simply that the losing semi-finalist may not realistically be in a condition to fight again)

 

[suedester]

I saw three sessions at London 2012 - the opening ceremony, the men's 100m final and the men's 4x100m final. I bought the cheapest ticket each time. I only paid £120.12 total.

What kind of voodoo did you use to get those tickets!? I tried in vain for hours to get tickets and had no luck at all. You jammy bastard 😮

 

[mclem]

What kind of voodoo did you use to get those tickets!? I tried in vain for hours to get tickets and had no luck at all. You jammy bastard ��

Alertbox:

I've been quiet about this for two weeks, because I can't quite believe it happened.

I tried for opening ceremony tickets in the initial ballot - no luck. Forgot my login details, didn't really participate in the various releases of tickets.

After the torch relay went past, I decided it was worth one last push. I set AlertBox to notify me when the website updated, but even when it did, I couldn't get tickets; it liked to randomly offer me the £2k ones instead, a bit out of my budget!

Then... I tried ringing them. No luck first time, but I then tried calling the moment I saw a £20.12 ticket appear on the website... and they had some.

I'm going. To the opening ceremony. When ten days ago, I'd pretty much resigned myself to seeing it on the telly.

In short - HYPE!

(I wrote up a guide later in the thread for other people, too)

Using Alertbox to secure late Olympic tickets.

(Alertbox has since renamed to "Distill Web Monitor". I've no idea if it's still as effective)

 

[Kid Ying]

I'm going to miss all of this. Not only the events, but the afmosphere was great. Well, paralimpics, here i come.

 

[friskykillface]

I expected the Olympics to be terrible due to the current state of Brazil but it actually went pretty good , except for dumbass Ryan lying , everything was alright

Tokyo will be hype though

First exo suit in the Olympics gonna happen, gatLin will wear it to try to get a W

 

[suedester]

Alertbox:



(I wrote up a guide later in the thread for other people, too)




(Alertbox has since renamed to "Distill Web Monitor". I've no idea if it's still as effective)

Using the phone? Genius! I had a website monitor setup too, for all the use it was.

 

[bjaelke]

Men's marathon starting in 10 minutes. 155 runners participating. Perfect event to have on a second monitor.

 

[KillerMan91]

Crazy defending from Russia in volleyball.

 

[| Praxis |]

I expected the Olympics to be terrible due to the current state of Brazil but it actually went pretty good , except for dumbass Ryan lying , everything was alright

Tokyo will be hype though

First exo suit in the Olympics gonna happen, gatLin will wear it to try to get a W

Happens every Olympics. All the horror stories of the host nation, how nothing will be ready and everyone saying it will be a disaster and it turns out fine. Every single time.

 

[oti]

Russia's 12 needs a haircut.

 

[frankie_baby]

british guy currently leading the marathon, think the team gb success might have gone to his head a bit

 

[Tyrael]

Too bad it's raining today, but I think it's much better to the runners.

 

[frankie_baby]

Happens every Olympics. All the horror stories of the host nation, how nothing will be ready and everyone saying it will be a disaster and it turns out fine. Every single time.

As great as the sport has been you can hardly say this Olympics turned out fine, not as bad as feared maybe

 

[DrM]

Humidity is killing marathon runners

 

[Nipo]

I expected the Olympics to be terrible due to the current state of Brazil but it actually went pretty good , except for dumbass Ryan lying , everything was alright

Tokyo will be hype though

First exo suit in the Olympics gonna happen, gatLin will wear it to try to get a W

Except for the empty stadiums, green diving water, and athletes getting robbed? It wasn't the disaster people thought but it was the worst run summer olympics in decades.

 

[giga]

Except for the empty stadiums, green diving water, and athletes getting robbed? It wasn't the disaster people thought but it was the worst run summer olympics in decades.

Biggest one for me has been the booing.

 

[bjaelke]

Kenya going all out

 

[kyo2004]

Impressive performance of Russia in rhythmic gymnastics... Always gorgeous to see this presentations...

 

[silver.tongue]

Biggest one for me has been the booing.

I have no issue with booing in team sports but in individual stuff I think its unnaceptable.

Edit: Volleyball going to the tie break.

 

[oti]

What a tie break.