Qatar has a considerably lower murder rate, so there's that.
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2022 World Cup to begin in November
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Qatar has a considerably lower murder rate, so there's that.
go look up the numbers
come back and tell us if your statement is correct
just because you say it over and over again doesn't mean that it will become true
But in Russia it's always Winter.
Personally I don't get the hubhub about the Winter timing. It's nothing a little schedule changing can't fix and I like the novelty of having a World Cup in Winter and football seasons stretching into the Summer.
The one point I agree with is the cooling technology. That sounded and looked cool (lol). Shame it was hot garbage.
it isn't just a "little schedule changing" though
if it was, the fa's wouldn't be complaining about it
there goes the USA bid.
You really have no idea about european fan fests if you think 1.2 million people will celebrate in berlin every 2-3 days if it's snowing outside.
Unknown Soldier
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Damn, so much for that idea.
Russia's oil export-dependent economy is already in the toilet because of the low prices for oil lately. Putin doesn't have any leverage over Europe right now with that valve and God knows that's a good thing.
Yeah you are right. Hella overblown.
Yikes, apologize then.. can't argue with that then.
I'm so ashamed with my ignorance.
Stereogatari
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To be fair there's no precedent to say whether it will or not.
If it's too bitingly cold then they'll arrange outdoor heating (lol irony!) or just enjoy indoor fanfests?
Moving away from the Qatar debate, I really don't get this obsession with "Summer is the only time we can nationally congregate". Pretty sure major protests, political rallies, festivals and celebrations are not limited to the Summertime...I'm not even arguing within the context of the Qatar thing...I'm just thinking about it generally.
can't wait for the world cup to have all the festival spirit of an anti war rally or a rave in a dank warehouse somewhere near manor house.
Stereogatari
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Or of every town centre up and down the country during the run up to Christmas?
And they didnt have a spokesperson trying to convince Journalists that Hospitals were not important:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBEB6tDd0D8
Must be a pretty big location if you want to fit 1 million people into it. Good luck finding such a place in a big european city.
Stereogatari
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Just do them in the same places they are done in the Summer, except with outdoor heating. I honesty don't get it, it's not like we all live in the Tundra in Europe.
Nomad Blue
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People keep mentioning the top divisions, which'd have to take a break, but surely a world cup in Nov/Dec would absolutely destroy attendances in the divisions below that (and they can't take a break as there are too many fixtures), and they rely far more on spectator revenue than the top divisions. How many people are going to turn up and watch games in the Championship if England are playing Germany at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon? Plus there are a hell of a lot of international players in lower league teams (especially in England).
Also, don't some leagues already have a winter break in Jan/Feb due to the weather? They would have to go 2/3/4 months without any fixtures.
Have those rules been challenged in a European court yet? I can't see how they would hold up to be honest.
Also, don't some leagues already have a winter break in Jan/Feb due to the weather? They would have to go 2/3/4 months without any fixtures.
Have those rules been challenged in a European court yet? I can't see how they would hold up to be honest.
gutter_trash
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tell that the thousands of workers being killed at Qatari construction sites
I agree with you but this opinion is not popular on GAF. I think Morocco would have gotten flack even though the country is stable and relatively peaceful.
MMaRsu
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I doubt it.
Over the US and Australia? I think so. Nobody even cared about Qatar until they won the bid.
That is not to say I would give Qatar the bid but I feel Western media loves to trash non-Western countries when they host sporting events.
I remember ESPN's radio host Colin Cowherd saying sporting events should only be hosted in Western Countries plus Japan. The Orientalism of the West tends to show at Sporting events. Especially if the country is not traditionally dominated by whites.
I was just lurking this thread, not going to comment on anything and sorry for being off-topic, but today is my 18th birthday and man, this dampened my mood. Thanks man.
EDIT: Gah... shit. Didn't realise the time difference between the above post. I could've necro'd this thread with my pointless comment. Sorry guys.
Festivals are concentrated around the summer, certainly outdoor festivals.
You seem to have missed the huge amount of negative news reports the Brazil World Cup and the Sochi Olympics got.
Mohonky
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Yeah you are right. Hella overblown.
Its like the Burj Khalifa of death tolls.
Seriously though considering most of these construction projects are designed and supervised by Western people they should be taking a stand against it. My old man built 2 LNG tanks over there without killing anyone I dont see why it should be any different with these stadiums and buildings. What are they doing?
Stereogatari
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They'll kick off later to compensate.
LyleLanley
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"BREAKING: UEFA confirm to Sky Sports News HQ they have suggested a World Cup final on December 23. #SSNHQ" - @SkySportsNewsHQ
Stereogatari
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Turkey winning a Christmas final would be amazing.
industrian
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I'm going to bump this thread when it's October 2022 and they've still not finished building the stadiums in Qatar yet.
They'll pay when they get dragged infront of a court. German league already threatened legal action. Smaller clubs will go bankrupt if they don't get any money for the missing TV/sponsor payments.
industrian
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I hope that every country in Europe except Scotland boycotts the World Cup in Qatar.
We'd probably still fail to qualify.
FortuneFaded
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Haven't Scotland already been boycotting since '98?
Most leagues used to have a 6 week winterbreak, but that got cut back to 2/3 weeks, due to the amount of games to be played.
If we'd cut the winterbreak earlier to october to accomodate the WC, clubs will appeal to their domestic football associations for a break that extends into march, due to the high amount of African players and their obligations to the Africa Cup.
So even IF the season starts earlier, let's say august, you'd have to start practice in june/july after the leagues end in may/june, and you'd get domestic league football, continental cups, domestic cup crammed into a 3 month window, what normally would be played in 5 months.
Then you'd get the World Cup, which will be dreadful to watch, because the players have been strained for high performance since january/february and only had about 2 weeks in june to catch their breaths.
After the World Cup, the Africa Cup commences, which will be even worse, since the top-countries will have a squad that JUST played a World Cup tournament.
And then we go back to finishing the leagues and domestic and international cups the clubs were playing. Can you imagine the number of injuries we'll have by the end of season 22/23 due to over-exercising?
This whole operation is a nightmare that can be easily resolved; host it in summer. If Qatar can't host it in summer, host it somewhere else.
Boss Mog
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Not if you count the terrorism they fund, but I guess that's not in country and therefor wouldn't count. Slave worker deaths should be considered murder though.
Again, we all thought it wasn't practical. They said: "No problems for a summer cup, we are going to air condition our stadiums, it will be epic. Cloud technology! Billions invested!"
Their bid won.
And now they don't follow through on their promises.
Now I really hope everyone just boycotts this nonsense. Goddamn, this arrogance
You'd think leagues and broadcasters are not going to like this at all.
Considering that PL rights costs about the same as the entire World Cup...
Opus Angelorum
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So...say England get through to the final 16/8 (lol). EPL teams will have what...4/5 matches in December.
So FIFA expect these players to travel back and forth from Qatar between matches?
So FIFA expect these players to travel back and forth from Qatar between matches?
If the world cup goes until 23rd December no league will start before february.
They'd probably start in August, play until October and start back in february until June or something.
Opus Angelorum
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Ridiculous.
Funky Papa
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Morocco is an autocratic monarchy with some assbackwards laws and huge territorial and humanitarian issues steeming from the illegal ocupation of Western Sahara. You could probably pick a better suited Muslim country if that's what you intended to do.
industrian
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If only Qatar could make their stadiums this cold.
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