Clearly it's everyone's favorite arcade third person shooter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1GVQZF7teoMrPing1000 said:
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2K Games announces XCOM (X360 and PC)
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MotorbreathX
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I'm going to add my very constructive post to the topic.
This is fucking stupid.
This is fucking stupid.
MotorbreathX
Member
Exactly. If this doesn't sell we can kiss any real reboot goodbye. If it does sell, we get more "XCOM" games like this. The XCOM fan loses either way.Y2Kev said:
Affeinvasion
Member
CiSTM said:
I can't believe how many people think I am making this stuff up. Reaction training is a widely accepted grinding strategy in X-COM.
http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Reaction_Training
I own all of the x-com games. They are horribly dated and full of pointless filler (like shooting down the UFOs in the first place) and the mechanics would not translate well to a console. If you gave me an xcom ds game then that's something else entirely.
All the bitching about being a fps is pointless because who knows exactly what the gameplay is going to be like?
I agree that having a squad based shooter ala Rainbow Six would be the best and that the FBI agent thing is ridiculous. That doesn't mean this is going to be The Conduit.
Servizio
I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
You know, it's possible to hope that this FPS X-Com turns out well--I enjoy a good FPS after all--and still be crushingly disappointed in the continued brand-name cash-in spree the industry so gleefully indulges in.
It'd be nice if publishers and developers occasionally allowed themselves a moment of introspection to ask those tough questions, like "Do we really need so many unskippable cutscenes?" and "Do we really need to slap some beloved dead franchises name on this game to pad the sales numbers?"
It'd be nice if publishers and developers occasionally allowed themselves a moment of introspection to ask those tough questions, like "Do we really need so many unskippable cutscenes?" and "Do we really need to slap some beloved dead franchises name on this game to pad the sales numbers?"
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
People know it will play like a first-person shooter instead of a turn-based strategy game not because of the one screen released, but because it's a first-person shooterChrange said:
Disagreed. A bunch of interesting decisions go into a successful UFO downing. Do you sent the interceptor with the fuckton of ordinance or the weaker one from the closer base? And not only that, stronger weapons have a better chance of causing severe damage to a UFO (and the aliens inside) but also damaging useful engine components. Strategy!Affeinvasion said:
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
How would you guys feel about something similar to Irrational's SWAT 4?
Minsc
Gold Member
Affeinvasion said:
There you go, from your own link, and just like I said. The same cheesy people who do this are going to be the ones who load the game when the alien comes out shooting first.
It's completely unnecessary. I don't understand your point really. I beat the game twice without doing that crap, other than moving people along in two's or three's which is merely just a good tactic.
The ship is not necessary? WTF! It adds a ton to the game. You need to upgrade ships, equip ships, manage having a limited number of ships, decide whether to attack a UFO or see if it lands on it's own...
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Totally cool as long as they keep the base building business.Chairman Yang said:
Affeinvasion
Member
CiSTM said:
Those are all PC games...(I guess there is a Jagged Alliance for DS but still). I just don't get how you would market a game like X-COM in its original form to the XBOX/PS3 crowd. Games like this were made for the PC and should stay there imo.
To Minsc: I guess I just don't like micromanagement in my strategy games which I understand some people do. I just like the tactical stuff. For me XCOM was a bore until I finally got to the battle map.
bigdaddygamebot
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Wario64 said:
I'll remain cautiously pessimistic and crotchety about this one.
Spotless Mind
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I'm kind of glad i haven't played X-COM and have no attachment to it, cos i could see myself joining the ragefest. :lol Actually, screw that. I don't even have to have an attachment to see how FUCKING MORONIC this is.
Neuromancer
Member
I'm sorry to tell you that you are dead wrong. Scrambling jets and sending them to shoot down UFO's was, and will always be, fucking awesome.Affeinvasion said:
Sign me upChairman Yang said:
bigdaddygamebot
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Chrange said:
God, you're SO funny.
My money is on the fact that it will play like a first person shooter and not like a turn based strategy game.
The clue being, "K Games Announces XCOM® - Suspense and Mystery-Filled First-Person Shooter from Creators of BioShock® 2"
TRY being clever on another thread, or BE clever on this one.
More Fun To Compute
Member
Chairman Yang said:
Never played it. Would buy it if it was like X-COM though as that is a game I was interested in enough to buy and enjoy playing.
MMaRsu
Banned
MotorbreathX said:
Right. How big are the chances the game would have gotten a "real" reboot? I'd say very slim.
icarus-daedelus said:
It was still a very very good game.
Oh noez an old game which is getting a sequel isn't going to be exactly like the old games! ZOMG let's bash this new game even though we hardly know anything about it except that it probably won't play like the old games! This game will suck!
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You guys are too much.
Interfectum
Member
MMaRsu said:
If it's not a "real" reboot then why should we care about a reboot at all.
This is like New Line announcing a sequel to Se7en but instead of it being a thriller it's a romantic comedy starring Jennifer Anniston.
Neuromancer
Member
Any how many people would have been happy with what they came up with? I don't have a problem with this being an FPS per se, but there's still a lot they need to do to make it work and the fact is we just don't know enough about it right now.MMaRsu said:
Still annoyed at the player character being FBI though, that that's the best they could come up with.
MMaRsu said:
Given the choice between no reboot and a reboot involving a narrative driven FPS game revolving around an FBI agent, I would have left the series in the past. This stinks of mediocrity with the X-COM name tacked on to garner a few extra sales.
It could surprise me and be a decent game, but I doubt it.
MMaRsu
Banned
Interfectum said:
Because you hardly know anything about the title other than it's an FPS and you play an FBI agent? It could be very very good? It's not like they ditched the universe and went with a whole new style/universe and just attach the XCom name to it.
Neuromancer said:
Exactly, that's the thing. You are always going to get people who are dissatisfied with a "reboot" or a "sequel" that doesn't play like the previous games. You cannot please everyone.
For all we know this game is going to suck ass, or it could be a GOTY contender. Who knows? Nobody.
Talamius said:
Well why don't you just ignore this game then and play the old games. Just pretend there's no reboot just like we pretend there's no Terminator 3 ( wait, Terminator 3? )
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Switching a genre is fine, I suppose. It can work.Ferrio said:
But (unless I'm missing information), they're simply taking the NAME of a dead franchise they own and had nothing to do with originally and slapping it on the popular "genre of week" to try to eek out some sales from (possible) franchise recognition.
It's equally icky given the time since the franchise sputtered out. If they had been still making X-COM games and decided to give it a switch after a few attempts at the original's original genre, I think there'd be less rage.
bigdaddygamebot
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derFeef said:
Yep. I definitely get it. Half Life 2 is different from Modern Warfare 2 and I enjoyed both of them. They're both First Person Shooters and nothing remotely close to a Turn Based Strategy game.
derFeef said:
No worries.
Interfectum
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MMaRsu said:
But I don't care about the universe if the gameplay doesn't come along with it.
What if Nintendo announced the big, new Zelda title coming this fall was going to play exactly like Madden or if they announced Mario Galaxy 2 was going to be a Wii Fit clone. Same universe right?
Neuromancer
Member
I wonder if the FBI agent in question will harness his latent psychic powers.
My guess is yes
Affeinvasion
Member
Princess Skittles said:
That's not really fair to say about FPSs. They have been really popular for years now. It's not like the genre started with Halo or CoD4.
bigdaddygamebot said:
I'm talking about the people bitching it won't have the 'atmosphere' or 'tension' - the same ones ignoring how awesome Fallout turned out to be so they can tunnel vision in on Shadowrun, which they probably didn't buy or play, not being what they wanted.
Gamers are the fucking worst. No matter what, we bitch bitch bitch.
bigdaddygamebot
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Neuromancer said:
Stick it in and break it off why don't you?
Interfectum
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Chrange said:
It might be a fun game but I think some of us still have a point in calling this shit out. I mean come on... a first person shooter? Really? Like we don't have enough of those? And I don't think it's a bad thing questing the motives of giant corporations.
It would've been nice to just have something different.
ZombieSupaStar
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My 3 top series ever are Fallout, Shadowrun, and X-Com.......
man if I haven't been fucked over in this gen or what....(ok fallout 3 turned out good, but still :lol )
No wonder im so jaded in terms of gaming now :lol
man if I haven't been fucked over in this gen or what....(ok fallout 3 turned out good, but still :lol )
No wonder im so jaded in terms of gaming now :lol
MMaRsu
Banned
Chrange said:
Right on the money.
You guys don't know anything about the gameplay other than it's an FPS, which could still mean a lot. Not all FPS games are the same.
What if this game actually *gasp* turns out great?
Interfectum said:
I agree, but let me tell you, how much would it sell if the gameplay was almost exactly like the old games? Not very much I would think not.
liquidlogan
Banned
Right because everyone already knows this is going to be bad from an announcing press release and a single screen.
Edit: What MMaRsu said.
Edit: What MMaRsu said.
Interfectum
Member
liquidlogan said:
I'm not sure if you've been reading the thread or not but I don't think the argument is as simple as "the game will suck."
It's more like... "why?"
and... "zzzzZZz"
It's not really crazy that some gamers are disappointed that an old favorite is being resurrected into a genre that is overflowing to the point it is bursting at the seems...