puffyshirt
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The explorable world in this game is bigger than Skyrim? Is that for real?
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35 Minutes of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
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Yea, its possible that initial footage was taken from snippets of full-blast potential of the visuals, while the footage we're seeing now have the graphics dialled back as they need a proper working build to show off lengths of the game at a time.
At this point, I'm expecting the final game to have been downgraded some, but it'll hopefully be a bit better than what we're seeing now at least.
Yes.
I would expect less in the way of dungeons and whatnot, though.
Atraveller
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Bethesda has a lot to catch up.
puffyshirt
Banned
Yeah, true.
At one point in that video, the commentator states that the player is currently 14 times further away from the main city than from a large distant tree on a hill near the horizon that happens to be currently in view (which looks pretty far away as it is).
He doesn't say if that is a straight line distance (ie as the crow flies) or if that means when talking windy paths and roads however...
The game looks like it could use some work, yes. I am curious as to how the quest structure will last throughout with the open world, too, but as I just recently started the Witcher II, it seems to have a familiar flow, at least.
All of these open world RPGs as of late have really only made me giddy at the thought of what the next Elder Scrolls game is going to be... with the current modded build I have now, the game chugs and crashes constantly. Something stable that looks as pretty (though I handily doubt it) would be amazing.
All of these open world RPGs as of late have really only made me giddy at the thought of what the next Elder Scrolls game is going to be... with the current modded build I have now, the game chugs and crashes constantly. Something stable that looks as pretty (though I handily doubt it) would be amazing.
BlackBanditSho
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All I know is that this is one of the most amazing video games I've ever seen. I tried witcher 2 on Xbox. Something about the combat turned me off from an otherwise remarkable experience. I couldn't get into it despite some incredible dressing.
However the witcher 3 looks so incredible that it makes me want to go back and force myself to play through witcher 2.
This is one of those few games, where I see a real living breathing vibrant textured open world that's fully explorable. And the narrative is so rich and woven into the game without disrupting it! I've never watched an entire walk through before of any game, but I couldn't stop watching!
Witcher 3 is playing at the Bethesda and Rockstar level. Was going to try Shadow of Mordor, but now I'm drooling until 2/15 on media blackout.
However the witcher 3 looks so incredible that it makes me want to go back and force myself to play through witcher 2.
This is one of those few games, where I see a real living breathing vibrant textured open world that's fully explorable. And the narrative is so rich and woven into the game without disrupting it! I've never watched an entire walk through before of any game, but I couldn't stop watching!
Witcher 3 is playing at the Bethesda and Rockstar level. Was going to try Shadow of Mordor, but now I'm drooling until 2/15 on media blackout.
Sentenza
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The interesting thing, on the other hand, is that they confirmed in an interview there will be dungeons in the first place, and apparently they will be very big.
That's another new thing in the series.
Yeah, the fact that the game is barely chugging along with the graphics that are in this video, it doesn't surprise me that some of the trailer effects are missing.
nelsonroyale
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Personally I think this has the potential to far surpass Skyrim. The world is just so much richer and the narrative and writing far more compelling. Art is almost second to none as well.
TheExhaustedWalrus
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I hope my PC can run this competently. If not I may turn to the console version.
Atraveller
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The potential? It has already surpassed Skyrim in my book! A bigger world that is more beautiful and livelier than Skyrim, infinitely superior gameplay, and story, if CD Projekt kept their usual quality.
They have to do this, though. The dungeons in previous games were a joke and a huge weak point, and I found it strange that nobody ever really called them out for it. In an open-world game, you need to have reasons to go exploring and that almost invariably means having 'dungeons', and they'll have to be a good deal better than they were in TW1 and TW2.
I'm interested in seeing just how big, detailed and numerous they are. I think it's gonna be an important part of how good the 'open world' nature of the game is.
Infinitely superior gameplay? Like, combat-wise? Cuz that's a big stretch if you ask me. It looks fancier, but I don't rate the combat in TW1 or TW2 highly at all and still prefer it in Skyrim, jank and all(actually archery is a blast).
Sentenza
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Well, it's not that they were a joke.
Skyrim's dungeon are a joke. The Witcher 2's dungeon were simply non-existing.
And people probably didn't call them out because 8while I love them when properly done) it's not like any RPG needs them.
Gothic 2 for instance has one of the best living worlds in the genre, with some of the msot rewarding environmental exploration, and yet it didn't have a single dungeon.
I don't rate it highly either, but I rate Skyrim's one even lower.
TW1 and TW2 do have dungeons. You've probably forgotten about them because they were seriously that forgettable.
Ok yea man I get it - you don't like Skyrim. Pretty sure we've done this before where you try and objectively prove how Skyrim is a bad game.
Sentenza
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I don't count a couple of caves and corridors as dungeons. Dungeons are something else.
That's a convenient argument.
Sentenza
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Well, it's the truth.
A "dungeon" in gaming terms is supposed to be a complex, often multi-layered labyrinth with combat, puzzles, rewards at the end.
The Witcher didn't have anything resembling that concept, just a bunch of fairly simply and linear caves here and there.
I'm not defending the game in this sense, quite the opposite. I think calling them dungeons would be dignifying them of some recognition that they just don't deserve.
lordfuzzybutt
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I can remember tw1 but not 2's. And i've played through 2 at least 5 times. Maybe i just didn't think about them as dungeons.
So yeah for me it's kinda non existant too.
Lmao
BotoxAgent
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The combat mechanics look really sweet too.
Sentenza
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Can't say I'm particularly impressed so far.
But it doesn't look worse than the previous one, at least, which is a start.
BloodMoney
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My man!
Turin Turambar
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Skyrim isn't that big.
BloodMoney
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Yea, as do the deathblows... Slicing dudes in half and whatnot. Crossbow bullet-time also looks promising for when you are in a pinch.
Turin Turambar
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It looks more responsive which was the big criticism people had with Witcher 2... but in exchange, it also looks like more arcade-y. Those dashes looks like they are taken from some japanese scifi action game.
Geralt is supposed to have superhuman reflexes and speed so it doesn't look out of place imho. If anything, he was too slow in TW2.
dibs on Volume Based Translucency
Skyrim is a great game, but it has many flaws. Skyrim's combat however is atrocious.
Now that I think about it I can't think of many games (first person that is) that do archery well. I do enjoy Skyrim's though.
Definitely. In TW2 I felt there was a disconnect between how NPCs described Geralt's fighting technique, and how he actually played.
Well, he rolls after jumping down. Makes sense contextually ;-)
Magic Mushroom
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That's a good thing in my book. Not sure if will be as good as Dragon's Dogma's combat, but it looks promising to me.
lukeskymac
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But it is.
Yes, this nextgen-only game from 2015 has a bigger world than oldgen RPG from 2011.
Sentenza
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Well, I wouldn't surely complain about how big it is.
in fact I would gladly give up half of the map size and 80% of the dungeons as a trade-off to have the remaining content in a far better quality.
"Old gen", "next gen"... Buzzwords.
Gens don't really matter much.You could have bigger worlds in 1992 with archaic tech.
What's actually impressive is that a Polish studio may be ableto achieve a game this big and this detailed with what's probably a mere fraction of the overall budget used in Skyrim.
Making bigger and more detailed world is more a matter of manpower and productivity than technical limitations.
Precisely.
Denton
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You know I mean combat
In the first debut trailer Geralt rolled during a fight with one of the big monsters, so maybe it is still there.
puffyshirt
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Well everything is smaller than Daggerfall, so your logic doesn't exactly hold up.
Oh man, I can't fathom what a Witcher could be with the budget and manpower of a Skyrim or GTA.
I know about Daggerfall and that world size means nothing, but still. Skyrim and W3 are mainstream RPGs, they would not aim for large world size without content to fill it in.
a secret-boss
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unlike Dragon Age Inquisition, its really an open world not hallway of trees and rocks
Just watched the 5.6gb video from Gamersyde.
Goddamn, the performance is awful. Is this on PC or Xbox One ?
I seriously couldn't watch the video all the way through....the stuttering was driving me mad.
That being said, it does look beautiful, although not mindblowing. But man, they really need another voice actor for Gerald.
Goddamn, the performance is awful. Is this on PC or Xbox One ?
I seriously couldn't watch the video all the way through....the stuttering was driving me mad.
That being said, it does look beautiful, although not mindblowing. But man, they really need another voice actor for Gerald.
toastyToast
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Hehe, Johnny