Immortal Technique
Member
Lowest of all games, but KI did show a good increase from last year.
SFIV's record was about 2,200 or so. This is a really mind-blowing number.
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5,000 Entrants for SFV at EVO
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Lowest of all games, but KI did show a good increase from last year.
SFIV's record was about 2,200 or so. This is a really mind-blowing number.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Season 1 was too limiting in mechanics. By the time iron galaxy had made their mark mid season 2, most people who were even remotely interested had Guilty gear, MKX And blazblue to choose from. I'm not saying they are comparable, but they are known and loved entities.
By the end of season 2 and Beginning of Season 3, Street fighter was out. (And pokken, if your into that sort of thing)
It's not a case that KI was a bad game, but as a new IP, it's time to shine was when it was the only kid on the block (bar a shitty port of injustice).
With KOF round the corner and Tekken confirmed to be coming soon, the only people who really are gonna put serious time into KI are people who are already converted. It's not gonna get much bigger than it already is, no matter what happens at this point.
I think the most interesting part of this is that sales to consumers seem to have no bearing whatsoever on tournament popularity. I imagine with SF it helps when the brand is well known world wide and there's such a huge prize at the end of the season (the finale will be what, a 100,000 $ to the first place winner ?) but it's just odd seeing all these games that have a much higher player base "under preform" during registration like this.
I'm really looking forward to EVO though , booked a trip 2 days ago , will probably be among the 0-2's but I don't care it should be a blast.
I'm really looking forward to EVO though , booked a trip 2 days ago , will probably be among the 0-2's but I don't care it should be a blast.
Crayon
Member
It is interesting. Especially that street fighter signups have gone up so much while the backlash against the game continues. Is it a case of no such thing as bad press?
PsychoSoldier
Banned
I think it's just that Capcom did everything they could to cater to the people who would be willing to go to tournaments, and a lot to turn off the average consumer.
So in a sense, their strategy partially worked---they got the tourney-goer to buy into SFV as a tournament game, but they overestimated how much the average consumer were willing to follow.
ethomaz
Banned
The big prize is related to number of registrations... less registrations = lower prize.
Only the bonus is fixed by Capcom.
You are aware that Evo has run games that have never been released in the US, right? That's going to give you a player/copies sold rate of undefined. Hell, this is Tekken 7's second year and that game will not be available for anyone to purchase here until next year.
At some level, it comes down to how many people care about competitive play for a game and that is something that can not be faked, regardless of how much money publishers throw at a game.
Capcom's idea to chase the more dedicated player base is not entirely without merit, as dedicated players would presumably be able to willing to buy in at a much more frequent rate and leading to a significantly higher average revenue per user, so that it could make money even with a smaller player base.
The issue with that is that Capcom has so far bungled the online experience and content pipeline, so they were not making any money from their most dedicated players, either.
RaySpencer
Member
I guess I just feel like the game is SOOO GOOD and has such a large cross over in terms of mechanics with SF and capcom games in general, that there should be more people that jumped on it.
pretty done
Member
It would probably be bigger if it wasn't exclusive to the less popular console.
Yea it's on PC now (more than a year late) but a.) Windows 10 only and b.) PC is most definitely less popular than PS4 for fighting games
Crayon
Member
I wonder how much we each have to spend on dlc and passes for Capcom to be happy with it? I wonder how they view it's worth as a community initiative with indirect benefits?
Maybe we'll get more insight some day.
Might be the biggest at EVO so far. Aside from T7 last year, TTT2 had about 350 in 2013 and 257 in 2014. Can't find stats of earlier years.
It's because it's a good ass game.
It's a Capcom fighting game at EVO, even SFxT had a lot of entrants no matter how much everyone involved tried to sabotage that game.
Crayon
Member
Could just be this. I'll say that 5 is handily easier and more fun to play AND spectate than 4.
Kaleinc
Banned
Piss easy herp derp into 50% damage making it that everyone and their mom has a chance beating daigo.
it's boring to watch
What? The game is more honest than SFIV ever was and I don't think I really have to go into the numerous reasons why. V is also closer to classic SF (II, III, Alpha) with IV being an outlier.
KidA Seven
Member
Watch a tournament sometime bro
Lol. Well we know who hasn't played the game at all here.
Crayon
Member
lmao
For those who care, Kanzuki Beach will be banned at EVO.
Covers the feet. Stuff like birdie's can n banana are hard to see.
The waves obscure Birdie's banana peels & energy drink cans.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
To justify the bikini costumes that are going to make them millions of dollars.
Teknopathetic
Member
I'm kind of imagining Chun-li's c.mp being obscured by waves as well, at least where the fist is. And you could probably only barely make out some sweeps or low attacks in general. Seems like it could be problematic overall.
surely there's a way to make a beach stage that doesn't obscure the actual fighting lol
KidA Seven
Member
This is how I feel about smash
Yeah, Chun's cr.MP is hard to see. Hopefully they come up with a workaround so the stage is tournament ready, it'd be a shame to miss its amazing theme.
jediyoshi
Member
Same company that made the Volcanic Rim stage and Nighttime Harrier stage in UMVC3.
The projectiles in the background distracted because they kinda looked like character or assists firing something off. The dark background made black Sentinel, Wesker, Viewtiful Joe, Vergil etc. camouflage in the background.
beach stage at night maybe
Plenty of perfectly fine beach stages in fighting games.
capcom plz
That looks perfect.
.la1n
Member
You guys just don't understand Capcom's artistic vision. On a serious note: I'm beginning to wonder if any portion of their SF team communicate with each other. Surely the guys designing the core fighting engine would flip shit seeing the background and effects guys putting in stuff like the beach stage.
I agree. Its like they designed that stage without having a checklist of rules that stages must follow. Designing a stage that obscures and distorts projectiles and player's feet is a huge no-no.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
It's the Wasteland of SF V.
Seriously, I'm trying to remember another Fighter stage that had that, I think it was VF4 and Tekken 6, iirc? With the snow?
IIRC the stage designs got outsourced to Malaysia or Singapore.
Well, at least Capcom is trying to stretch a dollar.
Teknopathetic
Member
"Seriously, I'm trying to remember another Fighter stage that had that, I think it was VF4 and Tekken 6, iirc? With the snow?"
Virtua Fighter 5 has a stage with snow that covers players feet, but it doesn't obscure anything. It flattens when players walk/fall on it, and even if it didn't, VF animations wouldn't result in the same problems as some of the more low-profile SF Animations.
Virtua Fighter 5 has a stage with snow that covers players feet, but it doesn't obscure anything. It flattens when players walk/fall on it, and even if it didn't, VF animations wouldn't result in the same problems as some of the more low-profile SF Animations.
I keep hoping the same thing haha