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[SwiftDeath]

For those who missed the live show

here is the link for those who missed it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDz1EWfVqHk

they will repost it on there channel in a hour or so

Video is up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDz1EWfVqHk

There is a sort of timeline in the video description

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While you wait please enjoy this gif made by local gaffer gif legend eltorro

Maybe it sticks in gif-form.

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Back on topic of this Address the Sess

Well, this got interesting:

So thought it would be good to make a thread to discuss the episode as it has some interesting characters

Time until showing

Links for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDz1EWfVqHk

With countdown and everything.

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For reference Totalbiscuit has already said his take on the situation

For anyone that missed it, here's TotalBuscuit's take on the Machinima/MS controversy from earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjObpd5U33U

He gave an honest perspective on his experiences with these sort of CPM policies, and didn't outright condemn the practice for reasons detailed in the video. I can imagine the Address the Sess will maybe highlight many of the perspectives shared in this video.

 

[ramuh]

Awesome. Looking forward to this. Thanks for making thread.

 

[Amir0x]

I hope Sessler is on the right side of this issue, as he has been on the wrong side frequently since the systems have been revealed.

Did he make a comment on his twitter or anything indicating how he feels about it?

 

[Revven]

Uhhhhhhhh what? Really? Color me surprised.

Hopefully Sess isn't dumb enough to... well, brush the issue off like he has so many other issues in the last year.

 

[ramuh]

I hope Sessler is on the right side of this issue, as he has been on the wrong side frequently since the systems have been revealed.

Did he make a comment on his twitter or anything indicating how he feels about it?

I think he made a twitter comment about how it was suspicious that ReconXBL (one who posted contract) twitter's been suspended.

 

[FairXchange]

For anyone that missed it, here's TotalBuscuit's take on the Machinima/MS controversy from earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjObpd5U33U

He gave an honest perspective on his experiences with these sort of CPM policies, and didn't outright condemn the practice for reasons detailed in the video. I can imagine the Address the Sess will maybe highlight many of the perspectives shared in this video.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Machinigate Thread No. 6 has arrived!

I'm sure Sess will remain neutral.

 

[Zeth]

For anyone that missed it, here's TotalBuscuit's take on the Machinima/MS controversy from earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjObpd5U33U

He gave an honest perspective on his experiences with these sort of CPM policies, and didn't outright condemn the practice for reasons detailed in the video. I can imagine the Address the Sess will maybe highlight many of the perspectives shared in this video.

I thought TB's video was pretty good. I have a feeling they will mostly agree.

 

[enanogrande]

Looks weird to be quoted in an OP xD Thanks for that SwiftDeath, let's see what these guys have got to say..

 

[SwiftDeath]

For anyone that missed it, here's TotalBuscuit's take on the Machinima/MS controversy from earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjObpd5U33U

He gave an honest perspective on his experiences with these sort of CPM policies, and didn't outright condemn the practice for reasons detailed in the video. I can imagine the Address the Sess will maybe highlight many of the perspectives shared in this video.

Thanks added this to OP

Looks weird to be quoted in an OP xD Thanks for that SwiftDeath, let's see what these guys have got to say..

No, thank you. You did all the work I just aggregated stuff is all

 

[spookyfish]

Machinigate Thread No. 6 has arrived!

I'm sure Sess will remain neutral.

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[ieatzombies]

After checking out totalbiscuit's video, it's going to be interesting to see how adam and he interact about this issue.

 

[Freki]

Machinigate Thread No. 6 has arrived!

I'm sure Sess will remain neutral.

...or positive. He will mention the name xbox one and maybe we will even see gameplay footage for at least 30 seconds...

 

[Cmerrill]

Incoming Sess the apologist to rescue Microsoft, as usual.

 

[ramuh]

Incoming Sess the apologist to rescue Microsoft, as usual.

Do you really think he would though? It is such a clear cut bad thing. Or will he just put it all on Machinima.

 

[Lunar15]

I don't think Sessler is particularly "for" microsoft or anything like that. It's more that he has a constant urge to be a devil's advocate against prevailing internet opinions. I've known plenty of people who are like this, including myself sometimes.

 

[alr1ght]

Incoming Sess the apologist to rescue Microsoft, as usual.

It looks like his two guests won't let him. They seem to understand the issue.

 

[Cmerrill]

It looks like his two guests won't let him. They seem to understand the issue.

I sure as shit hope this is the case. I'll watch for as long as I can stand Adam.

 

[Kru]

It looks like his two guests won't let him. They seem to understand the issue.

Will they stick to their guns however? Some people tend to buckle easily, don't know much about his guests, but would hate to see them back away from their opinions just because they don't want to appear dickish on some other guys show.

 

[enanogrande]

No, thank you. You did all the work I just aggregated stuff is all

*blushes* Oh, stop it you.

aaaaaanyways... It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. I actually have a feeling Sessler is going to agree with most of us on this subject, though he'll probably chime in with the Sony Too™ caveat. Just an hour more now...

 

[2San]

I don't think Sessler is particularly "for" microsoft or anything like that. It's more that he has a constant urge to be a devil's advocate against prevailing internet opinions. I've known plenty of people who are like this, including myself sometimes.

I get this feeling as well, however I haven't really followed his stuff before the XB1 announcement.

 

[NullPointer]

I don't think Sessler is particularly "for" microsoft or anything like that. It's more that he has a constant urge to be a devil's advocate against prevailing internet opinions. I've known plenty of people who are like this, including myself sometimes.

Yeah, that's my take as well.

In which case my gut fully expects "Sony Too" and "everybody does it" to be the heart of it, which is fine if they drill down into some details and blow this open even wider. Not so much if the thought it just left in the air to linger.

 

[FairXchange]

Thanks added this to OP

Awesome, I appreciate being in the OP!

I thought TB's video was pretty good. I have a feeling they will mostly agree.

I agree, TB gave a pretty fair explanation of the CPM practice in games media, and shed some light on his experiences with it. He also disagreed with probably the most important part which is the practice of withholding information from viewers when CPM is in effect for videos.

 

[ramuh]

I don't think Sessler is particularly "for" microsoft or anything like that. It's more that he has a constant urge to be a devil's advocate against prevailing internet opinions. I've known plenty of people who are like this, including myself sometimes.

Playing devil's advocate for an argument is a good thing. It helps puts things in context and allows other opinions (minority) to be voiced and discussed. The problem with this, if you always play that role it affects how you are perceived in all future conversations.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Is he going to pull a Sony Too like he did with the DRM.

 

[140.85]

Yeah, that's my take as well.

In which case my gut fully expects "Sony Too" and "everybody does it" to be the heart of it, which is fine if they drill down into some details and blow this open even wider. Not so much if the thought it just left in the air to linger.

Yeah I expect him to keep steering the conversation away from MS and to the bigger picture.

 

[Neuromancer]

The fact that he's making such a big deal out of this suggests that he's taking it seriously and won't blow it off. One would hope.

 

[BRocknRolla]

Incoming Sess the apologist to rescue Microsoft, as usual.

I suspect something less direct. Something more like, "This stuff happens all the time. It isn't a big deal. There is no reason to be upset..." This seems to be the direction of much of the games media over the last 6 months. There's just nothing anyone is interesting in fighting for anymore. It's that good old "journalistic integrity" at work. Not to say there aren't people out there doing good work, but with the move toward more and more YouTube models of business, these people aren't going to bite the hands that feed them. (It's a matter of economics. I don't see it as conspiracy; only people making sure they make a living doing this, and effectively ruining the value of game's journalism in the process. That is, assuming you believe its value is something beyond entertainment.)

Do you really think he would though? It is such a clear cut bad thing. Or will he just put it all on Machinima.

There was a time when I thought Sessler was one of the most interesting and professional members of the game journalist community. Now? I'm not so sure he'd stand up to or for anything. I don't know what happened. I'll be much more surprised if he attacks it.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Is he going to pull a Sony Too like he did with the DRM.

Actually, I'm guessing he'll say something like, "Before you guys gang up on Microsoft about this, I think everyone needs to realize that this is more of an industry problem than a Microsoft problem etc..."

I'm ok with this as long as he condemns Microsoft's acts and points out the EA stuff and actually commits to digging out future instances of this shitty marketing tactic.

 

[SwiftDeath]

Ooh the timer thing turns red when under an hour, that's cool

Spoiler

I'm easily impressed

 

[Chobel]

Ooh the timer thing turns red when under an hour, that's cool

Spoiler

I'm easily impressed

It's not cool, It feels like something bad will happen. All I see is a bomb timer.

 

[Orayn]

The fact that he's making such a big deal out of this suggests that he's taking it seriously and won't blow it off. One would hope.

Or that all three have agreed to gang up on the leaker, say it's no big deal, and attribute all the controversy to unwarranted internet hate.

A small cynical part of me believes this will actually happen.

 

[SwiftDeath]

It's not cool, It feels like something bad will happen. All I see is a bomb timer.

How is a bomb timer not cool? All those action movies would suggest otherwise

 

[Imm0rt4l]

wrong thread

 

[ramuh]

It's not cool, It feels like something bad will happen. All I see is a bomb timer.

Lol. All you need is Macgruber!

 

[bigbaldwolf86]

This should be good but I'll be asleep when it's on so I guess I'll have to catch up when it's posted on Youtube

 

[gogosox8]

I hope Sessler is on the right side of this issue, as he has been on the wrong side frequently since the systems have been revealed.

Did he make a comment on his twitter or anything indicating how he feels about it?

I'm expecting nothing but neutrality from Sess. He'll probably mostly blame Machinima but slightly point a finger at ms maybe saying something like they should've been more cafeful when signing deals like this.

 

[benny_a]

There will be no blame, the discussion will be steered into how YouTube personalities should strive for standards and if and how it can be enforced, as they wield influence.

Also it's amusing how everyone just automatically assumes Sess will play defense. He unfortunately has earned that reputation last year.

 

[Chobel]

I hope Sessler is on the right side of this issue, as he has been on the wrong side frequently since the systems have been revealed.

Did he make a comment on his twitter or anything indicating how he feels about it?

He's cryptic as usual but he said this.

 

[Osiris]

I'll read the thread post-broadcast, not giving him the +1 view to be honest.

 

[boredandlazy]

There will be no blame, the discussion will be steered into how YouTube personalities should strive for standards and if and how it can be enforced, as they wield influence.

Also it's amusing how everyone just automatically assumes Sess will play defense. He unfortunately has earned that reputation last year.

Unfortunate as it may be, he brought it on himself.
Anyway, I'm thinking someone will bring up Sony with their PSP Christmas thingo from eons ago.

 

[TheRealTalker]

going to watch it

but may be late in viewing

got to make my fancy dinner

 

[enanogrande]

He's cryptic as usual but he said this.

Nah, that's cuz he was sick yesterday. He did comment about it on monday though, lemme se If i can get those tweets...

 

[dmr87]

Sick line-up, thanks for posting.

 

[Flandy]

Could someone summarize what it was that he said about DRM and all that relevant stuff?

 

[boredandlazy]

Could someone summarize what it was that he said about DRM and all that relevant stuff?

Sony Too™.

 

[enanogrande]

Here we go:

So yeah, I'm pretty sure he's gonna condemn this but shift all the blame from MS/Machinima to "the industry".

Spoiler

The other piece of bad new is probably Nintendo earnings.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

I don't think Sessler is particularly "for" microsoft or anything like that. It's more that he has a constant urge to be a devil's advocate against prevailing internet opinions. I've known plenty of people who are like this, including myself sometimes.

THis. It's kind of why I can relate to him because I do the same thing.

 

[enzo_gt]

I don't think Sessler is particularly "for" microsoft or anything like that. It's more that he has a constant urge to be a devil's advocate against prevailing internet opinions. I've known plenty of people who are like this, including myself sometimes.

Ditto.

 

[boredandlazy]

What a load of shit.
We want honesty, but we know we won't get it. And so far that's been fully justified.