Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
This might be my favorite post in months lol
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Alec Baldwin Kills Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins With Real Gun
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Ionian
Member
But you can keep making fun of America while more people flock here for opportunity than any other country on the planet.
Tell that to the Irish, Spanish, Italians, Brazillians etc. That have been shunned by the country since the beginning.
But there's always an American that claims ancestry yet doesn't remember how they got there.
Colonialism. (Colinization was a great game, must go back to it).
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Dr Bass
Member
LOL ok. Yeah, we just can't stand Irish, Spanish, Italians or Brazilians out here!
I do like how you covered your lame argument with your second sentence though, and THEN tried to cover your second sentence with a third one. You obviously know how silly your statements are. Once you work your way down to "colonialism" on a thread about guns where I merely stated the basic truth that more people come here for opportunity than any country on Earth ... that's called "reaching."
P.S. In regards to your first statement, this idea that people of other countries don't exhibit some kind of prejudice or "nativism" is silly. That kind of behavior is a global thing and exists everywhere.
Futaleufu
Member
That's a big downgrade after being married to Kim Basinger
Ionian
Member
LOL ok. Yeah, we just can't stand Irish, Spanish, Italians or Brazilians out here!
I do like how you covered your lame argument with your second sentence though, and THEN tried to cover your second sentence with a third one. You obviously know how silly your statements are. Once you work your way down to "colonialism" on a thread about guns where I merely stated the basic truth that more people come here for opportunity than any country on Earth ... that's called "reaching."
P.S. In regards to your first statement, this idea that people of other countries don't exhibit some kind of prejudice or "nativism" is silly. That kind of behavior is a global thing and exists everywhere.
I don't disagree with your last sentence, I'm saying people were shunned and lived in poverty after the hope of a dream. Families here would starve to death during a famine just to send their eldest over to continue the name.
You're ignoring its birth and the horrid conditions that still to this day is reported.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I found this very informative ... Citing crew members interviews, actual 911 calls, etc.
It seems that it's common practice for actors not checking the guns ... According to interviews with crew, even Baldwin was concerned about safety. He'll get sued and probably settle but so far, it doesn't seem he'll face criminal charges. The armorer may, though.
Edit: also, Baldwin doesn't seem to be throwing anyone under the bus. Various crew members seem to be doing that to each other.
It seems that it's common practice for actors not checking the guns ... According to interviews with crew, even Baldwin was concerned about safety. He'll get sued and probably settle but so far, it doesn't seem he'll face criminal charges. The armorer may, though.
Edit: also, Baldwin doesn't seem to be throwing anyone under the bus. Various crew members seem to be doing that to each other.
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Thaedolus
Gold Member
lmfao no it’s not. He’s just making fun of our retarded health care system
Haven't you read the latest declaration of his wife? Seems they are shifting the blame.
Also, ever since I knew about this union workers leaving, I wondered if someone could have put the bullet in order to tarnish the set.
Dr. Suchong
Member
Just heard a Rust crew member may lose his arm now, after being bitten by a Brown recluse spider.
How horrifying
How horrifying
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Hardensoul
Gold Member
WoW, this is damning to Alec Baldwin being negligent?
www.dailymail.co.uk
Rust electrician sues Alec Baldwin, armorer and assistant director
Head electrician on the Rust movie set Serge Svetnoy has sued for negligence that led to Hutchins' death caused him 'severe emotional distress' he's unsure if he can recover from.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
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Malakhov
Banned
Wish I could use that retarded health care system instead of paying 50% of my income taxes (tens of thousands) for a health care system that makes me wait 12 hours at the emergency or weeks to get an appointment with my family doctor...
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Phunkydiabetic
Banned
It wasn't the completely inexperienced armorer on set, or the multiple layers of failure on set in regards to safety procedures, and it wasn't the (alleged) use of the firearm off set with live ammo, or the fact that multiple rounds of ammunition were stored carelessly amongst each other, or any of the other half dozen failings that let to this tragedy...
No sir..
The main contributing factor was that he was an "anti-gun nut".
Case closed folks. Pack it up,
Patrick S.
Banned
IMO, that electrician is an asshole who wants to cash in on a tragedy, and I hope he'll be out of work after this.WoW, this is damning to Alec Baldwin being negligent?
Rust electrician sues Alec Baldwin, armorer and assistant director
Head electrician on the Rust movie set Serge Svetnoy has sued for negligence that led to Hutchins' death caused him 'severe emotional distress' he's unsure if he can recover from.
Spaceman292
Banned
It was just a prop spider, I swear!Just heard a Rust crew member may lose his arm now, after being bitten by a Brown recluse spider.
How horrifying
CrankyJay™
Member
Yup, just saw this news. Why the fuck is he suing? The only people who should be suing are the the victims or their families.
Thaedolus
Gold Member
If you were put in a situation where you, through no fault of your own and due to the negligence of others, were traumatized by holding a young woman as she died you might feel differently.
Patrick S.
Banned
Next time I see a bad traffic accident, Imma stop behind the wreck and sue the accident drivers for the trauma seeing that accident caused me.
American SUE EVERYONE! culture is horrible.
Thaedolus
Gold Member
Shitty analogy.
Lanrutcon
Member
Why? If you spot some dead people then it's believable that you'd potentially be traumatized. Find whoever caused the accident, hit him with the law, make some cash. Probably better if you bring your kids along. Then you can play the "think of the children!" angle as little Mark cries in front of the judge.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Because they were working on a set that were not following protocols and safety standards, made complaints about said safety standards, and then this happens.
Just like you'd be able to sue your employer too, if a similar set of events happened and were documented. This really isn't hard to understand why that is a shit analogy.
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daveonezero
Banned
Yeah and it very easily could have been any of them that were shot
Lanrutcon
Member
Ah, I see. You don't consider the lawsuit a joke. I do, so I consider the analogy pretty fitting.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You can consider it a joke all you want, but the analogy is still shit.
Just say that you consider it a joke and stand by your statement. No need for ideocracy qualifiers to explain why.
Lanrutcon
Member
You're not getting me.
The analogy is fine if you consider the electrician's lawsuit a joke because the fictional lawsuit would be one too.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Lanrutcon
Member
Yeah, maybe I worded it terribly. If you consider the electrician's case a valid one, then the analogy fails. If you consider the electrician's case invalid/without merit/opportunistic cashgrab, then the analogy works because the fictional case would be laughed out of court for being the same. Anyway, just my opinion. It's like midnight here. I should go sleep.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I never said I considered the case valid or invalid.
I said the analogy was stupid, and I laid out my logical reasoning as to why with a better analogy that happens every single day in workplace environments.
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thefool
Member
Alec Baldwin 'played Russian roulette' by failing to check gun before firing it on Rust film set, lawyer says
Mamie Mitchell, the script supervisor who called 911 after Baldwin fatally shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, is suing the star and the film's producers, alleging they did not follow safety protocols on set.
news.sky.com
Stitch
Gold Member
George Clooney has ripped Alec Baldwin’s deadly shooting of the “Rust” cinematographer as “infuriating” and “insane” — insisting the star and his crew appeared to ignore decades-old safety rules used on every other set.
www.google.com
George Clooney calls Alec Baldwin’s deadly ‘Rust’ shooting ‘insane’
George Clooney told Marc Maron’s WTF podcast that the death of 42-year-old cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was clearly the result of “a lot of stupid mistakes.”
www.google.com
Halo is Back
Member
“Every single time I’m handed a gun on a set — every time — they hand me a gun, I look at it, I open it, I show it to the person I’m pointing it to, we show it to the crew,” he told Maron.George Clooney has ripped Alec Baldwin’s deadly shooting of the “Rust” cinematographer as “infuriating” and “insane” — insisting the star and his crew appeared to ignore decades-old safety rules used on every other set.
George Clooney calls Alec Baldwin’s deadly ‘Rust’ shooting ‘insane’
George Clooney told Marc Maron’s WTF podcast that the death of 42-year-old cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was clearly the result of “a lot of stupid mistakes.”
“Everyone does it. Everybody knows,” Clooney said.
Hardensoul
Gold Member
What makes this even worst is, this is a western movie that uses those revolvers that you also have to manual pull the hammer back with other hand before pulling the trigger with other hand finger. And from another report the scene did not call for firing the gun.“Every single time I’m handed a gun on a set — every time — they hand me a gun, I look at it, I open it, I show it to the person I’m pointing it to, we show it to the crew,” he told Maron.
“Everyone does it. Everybody knows,” Clooney said.
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
what killed me is when she goes "how you say in English...cucumber!"His totally normal wife, who was exposed as a white woman wearing brown-face for exotic minority points; complete with fake accent.
A complete timeline of Hilaria Baldwin's contradictory and misleading public life, and how it all blew up
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Hollywood is fucking weird
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
George Clooney has ripped Alec Baldwin’s deadly shooting of the “Rust” cinematographer as “infuriating” and “insane” — insisting the star and his crew appeared to ignore decades-old safety rules used on every other set.
George Clooney calls Alec Baldwin’s deadly ‘Rust’ shooting ‘insane’
George Clooney told Marc Maron’s WTF podcast that the death of 42-year-old cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was clearly the result of “a lot of stupid mistakes.”
Y’all empty vessel posers in here projecting this and that he said she said political bullshit, can kiss my ass. I spoke from experience with firearms for over 30 years, as well as my film set experience on firearm safety with actors.
Firearm safely 101, Clooney knows.
And here is a seasoned veteran backing it up. That is proper procedure both on and off sets.
The only exception is elitism and public hero worship holding them to a different standard than if you did this in your own backyard.
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Dr Bass
Member
No possible argument anymore
Y’all empty vessel posers in here projecting this and that he said she said political bullshit, can kiss my ass. I spoke from experience with firearms for over 30 years, as well as my film set experience on firearm safety with actors.
Firearm safely 101, Clooney knows.
And here is a seasoned veteran backing it up. That is proper procedure both on and off sets.
The only exception is elitism and public hero worship holding them to a different standard than if you did this in your own backyard.
Azurro
Banned
Y’all empty vessel posers in here projecting this and that he said she said political bullshit, can kiss my ass. I spoke from experience with firearms for over 30 years, as well as my film set experience on firearm safety with actors.
Firearm safely 101, Clooney knows.
And here is a seasoned veteran backing it up. That is proper procedure both on and off sets.
The only exception is elitism and public hero worship holding them to a different standard than if you did this in your own backyard.
It makes me think that the original report of Baldwin handling the gun inappropriately and firing it at the dop and director over a repeated take is probably true. There's been a lot of information dripping that makes Baldwin look even worse over time in this incident.
100% this.
Y’all empty vessel posers in here projecting this and that he said she said political bullshit, can kiss my ass. I spoke from experience with firearms for over 30 years, as well as my film set experience on firearm safety with actors.
Firearm safely 101, Clooney knows.
And here is a seasoned veteran backing it up. That is proper procedure both on and off sets.
The only exception is elitism and public hero worship holding them to a different standard than if you did this in your own backyard.
100% this.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Alec Baldwin's claim he didn't pull trigger on 'Rust' questioned by sheriff: 'Guns don't just go off'
Alec Baldwin claimed he didn't pull the trigger the day Halyna Hutchins was killed on the set of "Rust." However, gun experts told Fox News Digital that firing a revolver without pulling the trigger is unlikely.
www.foxnews.com
Maybe he's telling the truth, but I'm getting "prop gun part 2" vibes from that claim.Alec Baldwin's claim he didn't pull trigger on 'Rust' questioned by sheriff: 'Guns don't just go off'
Alec Baldwin claimed he didn't pull the trigger the day Halyna Hutchins was killed on the set of "Rust." However, gun experts told Fox News Digital that firing a revolver without pulling the trigger is unlikely.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
daveonezero
Banned
He is banking on people not knowing fuck all about single actions.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Like the majority of this thread and internets in general when it comes to firearms.
Trying to distance himself more from any responsibility. Scum.
"It's the guns fault." "It's the cars fault" Seeing a pattern here, recently.
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BouncyFrag
Member
Dem acting chops on full display.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
So the gun went off by itself?
Or is he speaking metaphorically like he did pulled the trigger, but didnt mean to kill her so it's like he didn't mean to?
Or is he speaking metaphorically like he did pulled the trigger, but didnt mean to kill her so it's like he didn't mean to?
How many takes did he get to make on this 'interview'?
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I can't believe it either. I want to see that defense being laughed out of court, but he is famous and might get away with it.
rubik's dude
Member
I agree that it's scummy, and that he's not doing himself any favors with how he's been handling this. But to be fair, how many people in his situation would be willing to take the blame for something like this, where you'd potentially be put in prison and have your entire life ruined? It's an innate sense of preservation, to not want to throw your entire life away, and to deflect any responsibility as much as possible, so you can remove yourself from that danger entirely.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh I get why he's doing it. He still did it in the end.
But there will be those out there to buffet selective their virtues and outrage.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I agree.
For cars, unless there is a major mechanical issue due to faulty parts nobody would know about, or a careless driver smashing into you, it's on you to drive safely and get your car maintained with check ups and good tires.
I've driven everything from a Honda Civic to my nice car now. Always all season tires even during snow. I have only changed tires on any car I've had once (this past summer). I bet on my other cars I was driving on half bald tires. One car I drive for 7 years with the same fucking tires!
Never spun out, slid into a ditch, overturned around a corner like I'm rally racing etc.... Even in snow and icy roads, as long as you dont gun it you can drive safe. Even with old tires and FWD cars.
But then some ass will spin out and blame the car or tires. Well, drive better or buy better tires.
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