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All New Skyward Sword Info from GI + Nintendo
- Thread starter Lord_Byron28
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They should just admit it and put "made for Dolphin on PC" on the back of the box. Still can't believe how good it looks, but 100 people over 5 years adds some explanation to it. I love that they're going all out on Zelda, probably their most valuable franchise regardless of business.
Joei
Member
Xun said:
I don't dislike him per se, but to me he looks very young and cartoonish. He doesn't carry the same kind "evil" look that Ganon did. This may change with his characterization once I get to know more about him and see how he carries himself, but I'll say he looks very underwhelming for a villain.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Lord Ghirahim
Member
Xun said:
Just because I'm a Junior Member?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
There's a difference between nonsensical and showboating/flamboyant. Hopefully Giriham is the latter. I like a villain with some flair.User33 said:
Joei
Member
Jaded Alyx said:
I thought Zant fine until he starts jumping around like he forgot his dose of Ritalin, lol. I think Zant could have been a decent villain, but it seems like Nintendo felt like they HAD to have Ganon in TP so they kind of abruptly decided to shove Zant off and shoehorn Ganon in.
Medalion said:
I hope you're right. He is the only thing I've seen out of SS that doesn't get me excited though.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yeah, the vibe I get is "I'm finally going to smash the sacred mirror of eternity-ma-jig and ....holy shit I actually did it!"Kard8p3 said:
User33 said:
The emotion they've put into him in the scenes we've been shown is absolutely fantastic. He's brutal, cocky, and looks like he's having FUN doing what he does. But no, for some reason I have a feeling you guys would just rather have another angry/hateful/generic Ganondorf villain, which people seemed to have wanted Zant to turn out...
Mr. Saturn
Member
Jaded Alyx said:
Maybe they're referring to the in-game animations rather than the cutscene animations? Twilight Princess always had good animation in cut scenes, it was the in-game animation that was lacking especially compared to Wind Waker.
At least Skyward Sword's Link has a somewhat normal walking animation compared to how robotic it was in Twilight Princess.
While Ghirahim doesn't look as "powerful" as Ganondorf, he totally looks more diabolical. And those are the best types of villains. Sure, it's fun to have a villain who sits on an evil throne and acts all gruff, but I think it's more effective to have a villain that messes with your head.
brandonh83
Banned
I'd be ok if Ganon were the villain in every Zelda. Ganon was never deep or whatever, but to me he is the iconic villain of the series. Call it nostalgia or whatever you'd like but that's how I roll.
I'm not opposed to other villains and I get that since this is a prequel to a bunch of other prequels (they keep going back!) it makes sense for Ganon to not be the main villain, but I would surely take him over Zant or any of the other villains in the series.
I'm not opposed to other villains and I get that since this is a prequel to a bunch of other prequels (they keep going back!) it makes sense for Ganon to not be the main villain, but I would surely take him over Zant or any of the other villains in the series.
MichaelEM3
Banned
I need this.
I need this.
I love seeing these topics swing between Ghirahim love and hate. I think the fact that he elicits such strong responses already bodes well for the character as a villain.
*cue "sick with anger!" gif*
Thank ye kindly. =]
*cue "sick with anger!" gif*
Jaded Alyx said:
Thank ye kindly. =]
Oops haha, thanks. I was too hasty in skipping over the OP because I saw all the spoiler boxes.Lord_Byron28 said:
brandonh83
Banned
I don't dislike Ghirahim-- because I haven't played the game yet. I don't like his design much, was never a fan of ridiculously flamboyant, effeminate bad guys with mascara and emo-flopped hair but I can't judge yet. I think he could be... interesting, though.
brandonh83
Banned
BY2K said:
Different is okay but that doesn't necessarily make it good. Also there is zilch and jack fuck "terrifying" about him. Not even for a Zelda game.
buuut like I said, haven't played the game yet, he could give me nightmares for all I know. well, he kind of already is.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Jaded Alyx said:
I agree. That scene in particular.
But the facial expressions and subtle animations are far beyond what was seen in TP. That's not to mention the gameplay animations are on a whole nother level.
EDIT: Damn, watching that video again reminds me of how much TP needed voice acting. It's like it was all in place and someone just hit the delete button.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Speculation on Ghirahim:
I've just realised that the
woman appears to be going through a portal.
those waterfalls aren't in the room, she seems to be escaping through a gateway
He looks to me to be from a race separate from the Hylians or the Sky people, one that uses magic, perhaps the interlopers that later became the Twili, maybe they were sort of demi-gods and he is one who has fallen from the path and has foul intentions. Or perhaps he is someone like Agahnim from A Link to the Past. He could be an agent of someone else or a higher power, or even someone from whom Ganondorf later learned his tricks. In the Link to the Past manga, Agahnim was actually a separate entity from Ganondorf, he was portrayed as someone who knew Link's Uncle and delved into magic -- he was used by Ganon from beyond the void, to break the seven seals. Like Agahnim, Ghirahim may want to seek access to the Golden Land or Sacred Realm where the Triforce resides... Ghira exists as a word in our world btw. In Arabic it can mean a kind of fierce self-respect, prestige and protective jealousy. In Sahih Bukhari - a Sunni Islamic book separate from the Quran - there are parables of sorts that talk of God / Allah's Ghira being greater than any mans. So what if Ghirahim is not actually your typical villain -- but a sort of fierce, arrogant protector of something? Maybe his people, or a secret power... I'd love it if Aonuma was trying to create another strange but sympathetic villain like Ganondorf in the Wind Waker. Even if he's not good, he certainly portrays an arrogance in the boss battle with link, and seems to prefer toying with him to killing him - so maybe there is something in the name.
The LTTP manga is here if anyone wants to read it: http://zs.ffshrine.org/album/link-to-the-past/manga/chap01/l_zelda_comic_001.jpg -- just change 001 to 002 etc.
The LTTP manga is here if anyone wants to read it: http://zs.ffshrine.org/album/link-to-the-past/manga/chap01/l_zelda_comic_001.jpg -- just change 001 to 002 etc.
I've just realised that the
Shiekah
those waterfalls aren't in the room, she seems to be escaping through a gateway
radioheadrule83
Banned
Big One said:
I know we know a basic bit about who he is, but we don't know an awful lot about who or what he really is beyond the superficial level. There's clearly more to him imo.
radioheadrule83 said:I've just realised that thewoman appears to be going through a portal.Shiekah
those waterfalls aren't in the room, she seems to be escaping through a gateway
Some have speculated she is going into the sacred realm in this scene. If that's the case I hope we get to go there at some point. Having the final boss fight in the sacred realm with the winner being able to create the hyrule we know and love from past games would be awesome.
Bending_Unit_22
Member
Welllllllll, some of us who didn't spend the time from reveal to release bitching about Celda knew it from the get go.Lord_Byron28 said:
civilstrife
Member
Okay guys... Could Ghirahim be Ganon's... Father?
I think Ghirahim discovered the source of his online nick name (debbie for those who don't know) and dismantled it because zelda universe now takes me to an earthlink page.
To the guy above though no I don't think Ghirahim will really have any relation to ganon though something he does in this game could eventually effect ganon in some way.
To the guy above though no I don't think Ghirahim will really have any relation to ganon though something he does in this game could eventually effect ganon in some way.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Until his adoptive parents are killed and old Ben Gerudo down the way tells him of his father's legacy.Medalion said:
Lord Ghirahim
Member
Lord Ghirahim's
as the game progresses. Aonuma leaked it on nicovideo a few months ago.
appearance changes dramatically