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AMD's Radeon HD 6990 - The New Single Card King

Cipherr said:
Louder than 580s in SLI.

I cant even fucking imagine. May as well just take your desk and PC and set that shit up on an airport runway.
Not noisy at all wearing headphones. :D
 
since crysis 2 likely isnt going to be more demanding than crysis 1, even with a dx11 patch, i cant see people rushing out to buy this. there's nothing to really test it.
 
Fredescu said:
It's physically different. It would be misleading to call it "dual card" when it is only one card and only goes into one slot.

The drivers treat it as dual-card, because it is multi-GPU. The only difference is that the CF/SLI bridge is internal on the single card instead of a cable you use to connect 2 cards. To make it possible for the GPUs to talk, multi-GPU single-card solutions also include a PCIe bridge chip to give 16 PCIe lanes, the same ones two video cards would ordinarily use to have their friendly chats in CF/SLI. To call multi-GPU single-card solutions a kludge is to insult a good kludge, quite frankly, because these things literally are 2 video cards mashed together into 1.
 
I'll take 2 please!

Seriously, if the 590 can't beat this I'm getting two of these (but I'm soundproofing my case first).
 
-COOLIO- said:
since crysis 2 likely isnt going to be more demanding than crysis 1, even with a dx11 patch, i cant see people rushing out to buy this. there's nothing to really test it.

The Witcher 2.
 
Guys, it's a single card, dual GPU solution as others have said. Hence the design.

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Compared to a dual card solution such as two 6970's...

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-COOLIO- said:
since crysis 2 likely isnt going to be more demanding than crysis 1, even with a dx11 patch, i cant see people rushing out to buy this. there's nothing to really test it.

The only thing is stereo 3D.

But still, I can run nearly every game at 1680x1050 maxed in 3d at very good framerates with my gtx480. Just a couple of games dance around 30fps. Which is still amazing considering resolution, filters, etc. On my ps360 I would get 20ihs fps, aliasing and whatnot xD
 
who the fuck buys this shit anymore. pc gaming isnt what it used to be. 10 years ago i can see a market but today this is not worth it, especially when you cant play past 10pm due to noise bylaws.
 
Does AMD have a long term gameplan with it's GPU line? Nvidia's unveiled theirs (Kepler, Maxwell, ARM coprocessors etc).

I feel like the 5000 series is the 4000 series but at a smaller nm and more transistors. And the 6000 series follows in kind, right alongside moore's law.

Do they have a siginifcant architectural revamp in the pipeline for the next few generations?

At the very least, work on improving your drivers AMD.
 
Sethos said:
Single card, Dual GPU.



The little kids, shopping carts and trees getting sucked into the intake might distract you though.
Coming from a GTX295 which I used for two years, it doesn't feel noisy for the raw power it outputs.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
The next generation of AMD/Nvidia cards are supposed to be on the TSMC 28nm node. You know, the one that isn't going to begin sampling until 4Q 2011 and shipping in volume until 2012. You're going to be waiting a long time for the next generation. If you need more performance, I suggest getting another 5970 and going CrossFire. CF has a lot of issues, even more so than SLI, but it sure beats waiting which is likely to be at least a year from today.

Yeah, I'm aware that these cards won't come out until then. It's going to be a long wait, but I think I can do it. ;) And doesn't the 5970 scale horribly? I remember looking at benchmarks and they were none too impressive. I'd much rather just buy two 6970's instead and crossfire those.
 
big_z said:
who the fuck buys this shit anymore. pc gaming isnt what it used to be. 10 years ago i can see a market but today this is not worth it, especially when you cant play past 10pm due to noise bylaws.

The consoles are 5to 6 years old already . With my 6950 unlocked to 6970 speeds i'm able to play batman aa at 5760x1200 with 4x super sampling and all in game settings maxed out. When comparing the two the xbox 360 verison almost looks like a ps2 game. The pc verison is just much better looking and smoother.

Then you have games like rift and the upcoming old republic and some gamers still love wow for some reason.
 
G_Berry said:
BATTLEFIELD MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!

by the time that game comes out the new nvidia cards will be sneaking into stores. it'll be like comparing a semi truck vs a retarded kid on a tricycle.
 
Stephen Colbert said:
Does AMD have a long term gameplan with it's GPU line? Nvidia's unveiled theirs (Kepler, Maxwell, ARM coprocessors etc).

I feel like the 5000 series is the 4000 series but at a smaller nm and more transistors. And the 6000 series follows in kind, right alongside moore's law.

Do they have a siginifcant architectural revamp in the pipeline for the next few generations?

At the very least, work on improving your drivers AMD.


Thats not it at all. The 4000 series is a dx 10.1 gpu while the 5000 series is a dx 11 gpu there were alot of changes to fit that in and they were able to launch almost a year before nvidia's dx 11 parts .

The 69x0 series is diffrent than the 5000 and 68x0 series because they went from a 5 shader set up to a 4 shader set up which is supposed to be better for modern work loads.


Also remember that 28nm should have been ready for now and the original 6x000 series was targeting that . I think you will see a major change sometime next year when 28nm is actually avalible. Although with win 8 launching in 2012 we might see dx 12
 
big_z said:
by the time that game comes out the new nvidia cards will be sneaking into stores. it'll be like comparing a semi truck vs a retarded kid on a tricycle.

If battlefield hits this fall then nvidia cards will miss them. From the news coming out it seems like 2012 is when 28nm will be avalible to the video card makers. The 6990 and i guess the gtx 590 if its real will be the major cards of this year. We might see faster clocked parts later this year. Mabye the 6980 with 100mhz more on the core and ram or a gtx 585 with 100mhz more on the core but if the process drop doesn't happen we wont see real new chips
 
I haven't bought a new video card since 2004, but isn't this the standard price for new products that hit the market? I remember the bleeding edge cards from 2004 starting around 500-600 dollars. Adjust for inflation and that puts you in the same ballpark.
 
eastmen said:
If battlefield hits this fall then nvidia cards will miss them. From the news coming out it seems like 2012 is when 28nm will be avalible to the video card makers. The 6990 and i guess the gtx 590 if its real will be the major cards of this year. We might see faster clocked parts later this year. Mabye the 6980 with 100mhz more on the core and ram or a gtx 585 with 100mhz more on the core but if the process drop doesn't happen we wont see real new chips

Agreed. But I think the 6980 and GTX 585 will still be more than just bumps in speed. They will probably get extra pipes, shaders etc.

I'm still holding out for new architecture end of this year. This is PC's golden year, and Battlefield 3 seals it. If they miss the boat, penetration of the new architecture could be less than if they were released in 2012.
 
luka said:
I'm done with dual-gpu. Give me a single-gpu card that performs at least as well as my 4870x2 and I'll upgrade.

a 16 month old 5870 bro. there have since been multiple GPU's from ATI and Nividia that are better than that card. The 6990 would be over 3 times faster... why would you upgrade if the card only performs as good? I'd say at least 2x would be required for me to upgrade, plus a realistic price.
 
my 5850 still works like a champ, granted im not running at insane resolutions either lol.

$700 is crazy $$ also, props to ppl that can afford it i guess
 
ToxicAdam said:
I haven't bought a new video card since 2004, but isn't this the standard price for new products that hit the market? I remember the bleeding edge cards from 2004 starting around 500-600 dollars. Adjust for inflation and that puts you in the same ballpark.

Yup, it is.
 
Dual 6950's/70's definitely seems like the best bang for the buck at the moment. My problem is I want to 3D PC game. What is AMD's "Nvidia 3D Vision" equivalent, and is it any good?
 
big_z said:
by the time that game comes out the new nvidia cards will be sneaking into stores. it'll be like comparing a semi truck vs a retarded kid on a tricycle.
Is that really necessary?
 
MisterAnderson said:
Dual 6950's/70's definitely seems like the best bang for the buck at the moment. My problem is I want to 3D PC game. What is AMD's "Nvidia 3D Vision" equivalent, and is it any good?

There's no direct equivalent, meaning they don't offer an hardware bundle like nvidia, though you can have 3D with different drivers even on ATI cards, be it iz3d or DDD.

It's a little trickier, and personally I haven't tried it yet since I'm on nvidia, but I've read positive comments.

See here for reference.

3D vision is better simply because it's supported at driver level, and nvidia seems to pay developers to release 3d-ready games at launch xD
 
Think I'll just wait for nVidia's efforts.

ToxicAdam said:
I haven't bought a new video card since 2004, but isn't this the standard price for new products that hit the market? I remember the bleeding edge cards from 2004 starting around 500-600 dollars. Adjust for inflation and that puts you in the same ballpark.
Yeah. People are just forgetting about the past, that's all. To keep the premiums, you gotta pay ridiculous prices for them. I suppose a lapse in technology? has allowed AMD and nVidia to release more budget yet politely powerful cards throughout the lean years.
 
nib95 said:
Agreed. But I think the 6980 and GTX 585 will still be more than just bumps in speed. They will probably get extra pipes, shaders etc.

I'm still holding out for new architecture end of this year. This is PC's golden year, and Battlefield 3 seals it. If they miss the boat, penetration of the new architecture could be less than if they were released in 2012.


AMD might have room to do that but if you read discusions at beyond3d.com and other places it seems nvidia is at the die size limit or very close to it.


I don't think we will see any major changes coming up . in fact i think they will want to cards in the later half of this year as un attactive as possible to stop from eating into sales of their new chips in very early 2012. The 28nm chips will be alot smaller than the current chips and these companys will much rather sell those than even bigger , hotter , more expensive stuff that will have a short shelf life .

I think next year will be an even bigger year for the pc than this year was and I think we will see the true transition to dx 10/11 and the death of dx 9 by and large. I think we might also see dx 12 with the launch of windows 8
 
eastmen said:
AMD might have room to do that but if you read discusions at beyond3d.com and other places it seems nvidia is at the die size limit or very close to it.


I don't think we will see any major changes coming up . in fact i think they will want to cards in the later half of this year as un attactive as possible to stop from eating into sales of their new chips in very early 2012. The 28nm chips will be alot smaller than the current chips and these companys will much rather sell those than even bigger , hotter , more expensive stuff that will have a short shelf life .

I think next year will be an even bigger year for the pc than this year was and I think we will see the true transition to dx 10/11 and the death of dx 9 by and large. I think we might also see dx 12 with the launch of windows 8

I agree in terms of hardware, but what about the software? What are the big titles to hit in 2012 to compell PC gamers to adopt new hardware, because 2011 PC wise is sublime. RAGE, BF3, Skyrim, Crysis 2, Deus Ex, Shogun 2 Total War, Witcher 2, Diablo 3, HL2 Episode 3, Star Wars toR, Mass Effect 3 etc. If ever a year to buy a new GPU, this is it.
 
My 5970 has been great for gaming but a headache for all things APP. Even after endlessly tweaking 2D settings, I still cannot use acceleration for video playback and encoding. In hindsight, just grabbing a few 5870's or 5850's would have been the right way to go.
 
I look forward to the death of DX9 in 2012. However it's not happening. DX9 won't die until 2014 at the earliest. That's because WoW will survive to at least 10 years and is DX9, and Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 will continue to support DX9 until their last expansions are done. Episode 3 should be DX9 as well being built on Source.

DX9 won't die until Blizzard and Valve say it's dead.
 
godhandiscen said:
Not noisy at all wearing headphones. :D
Don't lie.

I've got a single 4890 and that shit is loud as hell even with my Senns cranked.

Loud video cards have made me consider water cooling on multiple occasions. I'll likely integrate it into my next rig, sometime before Battlefield 3 hits.
 
Izayoi said:
Don't lie.

I've got a single 4890 and that shit is loud as hell even with my Senns cranked.

Loud video cards have made me consider water cooling on multiple occasions. I'll likely integrate it into my next rig, sometime before Battlefield 3 hits.
I also have a single 4890 and even just using speakers I barely hear it. And it's the stock cooler, in a pretty standard mid-range gaming PC, with no fancy sound deadening or anything.
 
Yeah, if you can hear your GPU fan with your headphones "cranked" you have problems. I had a 4890 too and didn't have any noise issues. Try fiddling with fan speeds.
 
When I don't manually put my fan speed at 80%+ I start artifacting and get random display driver crashes.

So...
 
It's an amazing piece of technology and honestly the price doesn't bother me as that is what is to be expected from an enthusiast level of hardware however the power consumption and noise levels are just plain through the roof! I run a Thermaltake Toughpower Qfan 750w in my rig and I would be scared of trying to run that thing in it especially since my hexacore Phenom II is already @4ghz....
 
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