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American Sniper sets BO record along with flurry of racial tweets
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I'm still not convinced it wasn't a plant.
I'm not sure if this is propaganda though.
You piece of shit. Don't be racist. If the film thought me anything you need to be at least seven years old or under to be a threat!
Edit: or a fictional character!
giancarlo123x
Banned
Pretty much. No point in entertaining and giving attention to these morons.
Sinfamy
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Yea, I expected tasteful, refreshing and deliciously subtle racism, this is just too blunt and syrupy.
jackissocool
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Kyle was a bloodthirsty, evil, racist psychopath who took pride in killing innocent civilians and wished he could do it more. I fucking hate all these movies that glorify US soldiers.
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
I'm pretty sure you'd see those tweets if Generation Kill would've been released at the present time.
I didn't think American Sniper was propagandistic.
I didn't think American Sniper was propagandistic.
The "outrage" is because the movie essentially canonizes Kyle while ignoring the many troubling aspects of his character.
PsihoPerihelion
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So much controversy over a mediocre pro-war propaganda film directed by a freaking looney who talks to a chair.
Here are some of the facts about american sniper.
http://time.com/3672295/american-sniper-fact-check/
http://time.com/3672295/american-sniper-fact-check/
I didn't find it to be pro-war at all. Quite the opposite in fact..
The chair's a pretty good speaker though.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Kyle was allegedly a racist who allegedly said if he could, he would shoot any Muslim holding a Qur'an.
wouldn't doubt why Spielberg dropped out after finding about his views.
the idea that cooper would still do this movie makes me hate the actor even more.
Winterfang
Banned
What controversy? These random racists on the internet, that barely counts.
NYR
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Cooper confirmed the studio wouldn't pay his quote. He said this on Howard Stern.
Portugeezer
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So allegedly is a fact?
Yes. They even have the Koran part in the movie, but conveniently cut off the quote before he says "I'd like to, but I don't."
plasmawave
Banned
Is the enemy sniper Mustafa based on a real person?
Yes, but he holds far less significance in the book, at least in relation to Chris Kyle. In the movie, Chris Kyle (Bradley Cooper) engages in a film-long pursuit of an enemy Syrian sniper named Mustafa (Sammy Sheik), whom the American soldiers refer to as "Kaiser Fin' Söze." In Kyle's autobiography, the enemy Iraqi sniper Mustafa is only mentioned in passing in a single paragraph. He is described as "an Olympics marksman who was using his skills against Americans and Iraqi police and soldiers."
http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/american-sniper/
Velcro Fly
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Shit my bad on the spoiler. I thought it was like a known thing. I put the tag in just in case. Sorry for anyone I spoiled =/
I just looked on Rotten Tomatoes. This movie got 90 Million dollars this weekend!!! In January!? Military theme as well? R rated too! I haven't seen it yet, but this is one of the most surprising box office takes I've ever heard of, maybe in History?
Did Clint Eastwood sell his soul to the Devil? I haven't even seen the op on Neogaf. Obviously it doesn't have much interest around these parts. But I do wonder from a smash hit like this, if Hollywood is going to be in the business of making War flicks again.
Reading further, it had a bigger opening than any film in December to February in movie history! Beating the Hobbit's and even Avatar, wtf is going on. This is the movie story of the year!... in January, bizarre
Did Clint Eastwood sell his soul to the Devil? I haven't even seen the op on Neogaf. Obviously it doesn't have much interest around these parts. But I do wonder from a smash hit like this, if Hollywood is going to be in the business of making War flicks again.
Reading further, it had a bigger opening than any film in December to February in movie history! Beating the Hobbit's and even Avatar, wtf is going on. This is the movie story of the year!... in January, bizarre
ldcommando
Banned
I really want to see this. Will have to wait until february. 
djplaeskool
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The book more or less pins the guy a self-professed bigot.
Given the stuff he'd seen and experienced though, I'd never want to make the choices he had to.
It shines an interesting light on a few extremely complicated situations, namely our role in the middle east, and the domestic issues that plague deployed personnel.
Damn.
All of them? You?
Also nothing you've mentioned so far makes the movie pro-war propaganda or racist.
ZiZ
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he wrote in his biography "I couldn't give a flying fuck about the Iraqis."
he also described killing as "fun" and something he "loved".
It propagandizes the man into a hero, while ignoring his many fault. The movie isn't overtly racist, but it glorifies one.
The problem I have is people are having the wrong conversation about these quotes.
They're wanting to just emphatically decide whether this guy was a monster or not when they should be pondering what pulling four tours in an environment like Iraq with a job like a Navy Seal does to a person's psyche.
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
whats wrong with making a movie with the subject matter of War?
lets not take these tweets to new heights, just cuz simpletons are screaming dumb shit on the internet doesnt mean thats what the movie is about.
If we hated everyone who practiced a religion in which others have done bad shit in its name, there would be zero love in this world.
If it's inaccurate or doesn't draw a complete picture of the guy, fine, but that doesn't make the film racist or pro-war propaganda. Those were the characterizations I'm talking about.
Link
The Autumn Wind
He was like that before the war too, just without the PTSD.
Wasn't the stuff that Captain Phillips being accused of getting wrong brought up by the crew members that were suing him and Maersk? If I'm not mistaken, the first mate stood by the film's portrayal of the events.
Nothing in my Opinion, I'm just shocked. It's made more in it's first weekend than Zero Dark Thirty, Lone Survivor and Black Hawk Down (basically the last 3 big modern war flicks) did in their firsts.
This could be a new era of realistic Modern day American Hero films. I'll take em over the Super Heroes any day
djplaeskool
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The film just seems to be a catalyst for bigoted bullshit that already existed.
Eighty Deuce
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People say racist shit on the Internet, I bet Selma got its fair share too. This movie doesn't promote it.
I was responding to your quote about whether the people who called it propaganda had seen the movie. I have. You did not specify what type of propaganda, thus my response. It is essentially a whitewash of the man's life.
He also said other gems like lying about shooting "looters" during Katrina.
Maninthemirror
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if the movies inaccuracies are on par with zero dark 30 where some of the moments leaving up to the kill and the kill were later disputed as being not really how it went or in Argo where Canadian involvement was severely downplayed, i still thoroughly enjoyed those movies so if its not worse than that then it will ok by me, at least in the form of action movie value
TheExhaustedWalrus
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I think the reason this did so well financially is because it mixes all the stuff people in the south love: guns, other southern-sounding people, the war, racism, and glorification of the war. That's my theory at least. Having lived in the south my entire life and seeing/hearing people react positively to the film in my area kinda fuels my ideology. However, I can't speak for the quality of the movie since I haven't seen it.
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