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womp said:
Normally I'd say it is a bad thing, but at least it looks more streamlined here...

...either way, doesn't matter, if/when I get a Droid X it will be getting Launcher Pro slapped on it's face the moment it's activated. :lol
sweet. didn't realize changing Home Luncher would nix Blur altogether.
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
Surprisingly, I'm not feeling tech envy. My N1 has been able to satisfy me just fine


Same here. I knew this phone was going to have too have legs the day the specs released during the middle of Dec 09. Not sure if it's just the build quality, or the fact that google won't leave it behind with the updates, it's just an overall awesome phone too own and use. Since buying my macbook pro, I have been using the tethering option while I'm away from the house, and wifi isn't around.

All and all, as much as how awesome iphone 4 looks, the ios still holds it back from it being greatness imo. That and it being exclusively with ATT.
 
Why would you do that? said:
Does anyone know anything about, or even care about the Motorola i1? It came out on the 20th, and it's hard to find anything at all about it.
Are you familiar with iDen networks? If you're not, just be aware you're going to max out at somewhere between 1/10th and 1/20th of the data speed typical on a mainline CDMA or GSM network. Way too slow to make a smartphone usable as a smartphone, in my opinion, but obviously some people make do.
 
DaFish said:
DroidX having MotoBlur a good thing or bad thing... Not sure what MotoBlur actually does?

Thanks!
The only bad thing about it is the likelihood to delay updates. Droid gets 2.2 earlier than Droid X, although both will get it by end of August.

It polishes up Android, such as the homescreens, launcher buttons, messaging app and just overall look (even the slide to unlock buttons look nicer). It also makes Android more social. There's really nothing tacky or blatantly bad about the new motoblur. Its a good deal.
 
I'm interested to know if Engadget is gonna be fair to Android phones now that their eternal love the iPhone4 has launched with two flaws. Light leakage on the Evo is one thing, but it doesn't fuck with the screen or anything on it. That's not the same for the discoloration on the iPhone. The same with the antenna. A grounding issue like that is a major oversight. I don't think it will hurt their review of the device though. I just find it funny that they nitpicked the Evo to death, but the iPhone seemingly gets a pass with glitches that actually break it. PEACE.
 
Pimpwerx said:
I'm interested to know if Engadget is gonna be fair to Android phones now that their eternal love the iPhone4 has launched with two flaws. Light leakage on the Evo is one thing, but it doesn't fuck with the screen or anything on it. That's not the same for the discoloration on the iPhone. The same with the antenna. A grounding issue like that is a major oversight. I don't think it will hurt their review of the device though. I just find it funny that they nitpicked the Evo to death, but the iPhone seemingly gets a pass with glitches that actually break it. PEACE.
Where did they nitpick it to death in their evo review? I thought it was a very glowing review of it.
 
I so want an Android phone, but I have another year left with my HTC Touch Diamond 2 on Windows Mobile. I played around with a mates Desire and its miles ahead of my phone, and definitely at least equal to my sisters iPhone 3GS.
 
I have a question: So, let's say I buy an Incredible or something today. Can I return it on July 15th and swap it out for the Droid X if I want? I would still be within my 30 days to do so, right?
 
Bluth said:
How's the move from the iPhone to the Droid Incredible? Any major features I'll be missing?

I'm not missing a thing. I really love my Incredible. Perfect size (easy to pocket), great screen, snappy, love the form factor.
 
thewesker said:
I have a question: So, let's say I buy an Incredible or something today. Can I return it on July 15th and swap it out for the Droid X if I want? I would still be within my 30 days to do so, right?
You could do that.... you most likely will be charged with a 35.00 restocking fee though.
 
giga said:
Where did they nitpick it to death in their evo review? I thought it was a very glowing review of it.

That's what I thought at first, but after reading it a second time...the tone of the review seemed to be rather anti-android.

thewesker said:
I have a question: So, let's say I buy an Incredible or something today. Can I return it on July 15th and swap it out for the Droid X if I want? I would still be within my 30 days to do so, right?

I think that this would work, I don't see why it wouldn't. As long as the Incredible is in its original condition (AKA not fucked up) you should be fine.

They don't like you doing it just for the hell of it, but you can, check with verizon to make sure, of course.
 
NightHawk17 said:
Why's that?

How else could you get a phone without paying like $500
No contract = more expensive up front, cheaper overall.
Contract = cheaper up front, more expensive overall.

For instance, a T-Mobile no-contract plan is about $20 cheaper per month than a comparable contract plan.

Contract Nexus One = $180+(80*24) = $2100.
No Contract Nexus One = $530+(60*24) = $1970.

Not much of a difference I guess, especially over two years, but the notion that you save money by buying the phone cheaper up front isn't usually accurate. And of course without a contract, you are free to end the service at anytime and go elsewhere without any early termination fees, etc.
 
GoldenEye 007 said:
No contract = more expensive up front, cheaper overall.
Contract = cheaper up front, more expensive overall.

For instance, a T-Mobile no-contract plan is about $20 cheaper per month than a comparable contract plan.

Contract Nexus One = $180+(80*24) = $2100.
No Contract Nexus One = $530+(60*24) = $1970.

Not much of a difference I guess, especially over two years, but the notion that you save money by buying the phone cheaper up front isn't usually accurate. And of course without a contract, you are free to end the service at anytime and go elsewhere without any early termination fees, etc.
Which also means that you might get an even better deal when you call them to say "hey, I'm terminating my contract" Quite a few stories on here of people getting plans quite cheaply for that :lol

The worse thing is phone locking, though. Can't believe that's legal. Carriers should compete with their plans, not their phones. :-/
 
GoldenEye 007 said:
No contract = more expensive up front, cheaper overall.
Contract = cheaper up front, more expensive overall.

For instance, a T-Mobile no-contract plan is about $20 cheaper per month than a comparable contract plan.

Contract Nexus One = $180+(80*24) = $2100.
No Contract Nexus One = $530+(60*24) = $1970.

Not much of a difference I guess, especially over two years, but the notion that you save money by buying the phone cheaper up front isn't usually accurate. And of course without a contract, you are free to end the service at anytime and go elsewhere without any early termination fees, etc.
Unfortunately only T-Mobile follows that completely logical system in the US.
 
A pretty good comparison of the Droid X's 720p video capturing and the iPhone 4's.

iPhone 4

Droid X

Both outdoor samples, and it looks like two different people shot the footage at the same time. (In the same location @ NYC).
 
Looks like the iPhone was more jittery when sweeping sideways. Still beats the pants off of my EVO though (haven't tested mine but even xda users, crazy fanboys, said the difference is pretty striking).
 
I thought the Droid 2 was supposed to make an appearance yesterday? :(

Not that it matters to me, since I JUST got a Droid a few weeks ago (as a gift. As if I have money to buy phones.)
 
zoku88 said:
I thought the Droid 2 was supposed to make an appearance yesterday? :(

Not that it matters to me, since I JUST got a Droid a few weeks ago (as a gift. As if I have money to buy phones.)

Droid X was the big launch yesterday. Droid 2 is rumored to be revealed in July, however I think it's a bit more far off than that.
 
Andrex said:
Droid X was the big launch yesterday. Droid 2 is rumored to be revealed in July, however I think it's a bit more far off than that.
I thought that it was supposed to be a dual event, but oh well.

It seems weird to me that they are focusing on the Droid X though. It seems to me that the Droid 2 would be better for most people, considering the fact that it isn't huge.

Actually, besides size and keyboard, what are the differences supposed to be? They both supposedly will have the same processing power. Maybe Droid 2 won't have HDMI out and 720p record?
 
zoku88 said:
I thought that it was supposed to be a dual event, but oh well.

It seems weird to me that they are focusing on the Droid X though. It seems to me that the Droid 2 would be better for most people, considering the fact that it isn't huge.

Actually, besides size and keyboard, what are the differences supposed to be? They both supposedly will have the same processing power. Maybe Droid 2 won't have HDMI out and 720p record?

And the keyboard, obviously. I haven't kept up with the rumors too much but Droid X is the superpowered slate phone, while the Droid 2 is a modest bump to the original Droid.

I think that's how it is, at least. :P
 
Pimpwerx said:
I'm interested to know if Engadget is gonna be fair to Android phones now that their eternal love the iPhone4 has launched with two flaws. Light leakage on the Evo is one thing, but it doesn't fuck with the screen or anything on it. That's not the same for the discoloration on the iPhone. The same with the antenna. A grounding issue like that is a major oversight. I don't think it will hurt their review of the device though. I just find it funny that they nitpicked the Evo to death, but the iPhone seemingly gets a pass with glitches that actually break it. PEACE.

The "nitpicking" Engadget review also didn't mention the EVO's grounding issue with screen responsiveness, which is also a pretty major issue. Or the EVO's 30 fps cap. Or the EVO's screen separation problem.
 
Engadget is pretty fair imo. They mentioned most of those issues for both phones in reviews or posts.

Gizmodo, though...they're the ones who can't be reasoned with.
 
So the Droid X has a mechanical shutter on its camera. What are the advantages of that compared to some other phone cameras on the market?
 
Lucius86 said:
I so want an Android phone, but I have another year left with my HTC Touch Diamond 2 on Windows Mobile. I played around with a mates Desire and its miles ahead of my phone, and definitely at least equal to my sisters iPhone 3GS.
you can run Android on the HTC touch Diamond 2(Topaz?). Not sure if all the features work though, so I wouldn't recommend running it full time.

Video of it running (2.01) currently on 2.1 build

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493

edit: my fault, maybe 2.01 = 2.1
 
So, most of the American versions of the Samsung Galaxy S appear to come without the front-facing camera. T-Mobile and AT&T both removed it, effectively killing my interest in them.

Why would they do this?

Kudos to Sprint for keeping the camera whilst adding a physical keyboard and 4G.
 
Gabyskra said:
I'm much more shocked by the results of the EVO. It's basically getting original Droid results.
Yeah. That's pretty strange, given that the processor should be very similar to the N1's. I'm not sure what's up with the Evo and benchmarks, but whatever it is, HTC better fix it. I don't play games, but this seems like a software problem. There's no reason a Snapdragon should score so low. PEACE.
 
Pimpwerx said:
Yeah. That's pretty strange, given that the processor should be very similar to the N1's. I'm not sure what's up with the Evo and benchmarks, but whatever it is, HTC better fix it. I don't play games, but this seems like a software problem. There's no reason a Snapdragon should score so low. PEACE.

I wonder if Sense is that big of a resource hog.
 
So I just got the HTC Eris, my first smartphone (stfu I couldn't afford anything better and I'm not waiting another month for them to slowly roll out more Incredibles). I have no fucking idea how to update to Android 2.1 and whether that would involve "rooting" it or whatever. Googling "htc eris android 2.1" just comes up with a bunch of "Android 2.1 announced for HTC Eris" articles which isn't helpful.

Also, how do I get the GPS to work properly? When I use google maps for example it only locates my position within 2500 meters or some shit.

No complaints with the phone itself so far but I can't say they went out of their way to make this stuff intuitive and easy to figure out.
 
Fatalah said:
Definitely feels like my Incredible is getting lost in the shuffle! Meanwhile its specs and form factor are fantastic!

Verizon-HTC-Droid-Incredible.jpg


Never forget!
This! I don't know why, but the DInc always gets lost in the shuffle. Picked this up on launch day and have been extremely pleased - next to no problems, super fast, awesome display, perfect form factor. Would recommend to anyone. :D
 
demon said:
So I just got the HTC Eris, my first smartphone (stfu I couldn't afford anything better and I'm not waiting another month for them to slowly roll out more Incredibles). I have no fucking idea how to update to Android 2.1 and whether that would involve "rooting" it or whatever. Googling "htc eris android 2.1" just comes up with a bunch of "Android 2.1 announced for HTC Eris" articles which isn't helpful.

Also, how do I get the GPS to work properly? When I use google maps for example it only locates my position within 2500 meters or some shit.

No complaints with the phone itself so far but I can't say they went out of their way to make this stuff intuitive and easy to figure out.
1. You should have gotten the Droid
2. Lol what are you so confused about you have 2.1 already. If you don't, you find it or hit update in settings>about phone. Settings is pretty intuitive for a setting.
3. Hit my location in maps. It should show where you are. Make sure your gps is activated, either through the gps widget or gps settings.
 
Paznos said:
You just got the Eris? it should already have 2.1 on it I would think, it got the update sometime last month I thought.
Well then there's really nowhere in the "About phone" section that tells me that. I don't see "2.1" anywhere. Firmware version 1.5, Software version 1.17.605.1, etc......are any of these supposed to tell me which version of Android it's running?

Also, why can't I do stuff like pinch and zoom in Google maps? Plus it really doesn't seem like the GPS is functioning properly, if at all.

1. You should have gotten the Droid
The thing's fucking bulky and heavy as hell. I carry my phone in my pocket, not a purse.

I'll try the "my location" thing but I'm pretty sure I did already. GPS is activated though.
 
I plan on getting the Droid X when it comes out. Because it isn't stock Android OS, will this hinder me from customization? Evidently it has some sort of customized back end (minimum Blur integration)?

Edit: I'm an idiot. How about I read the top of the page....
 
demon said:
The thing's fucking bulky and heavy as hell. I carry my phone in my pocket, not a purse.

Honestly you really made a horrible decision and really should switch while you can, as the Eris is going to be dead and the Droid not only has better specs now but will be the first non-Nexus One phone to get 2.2 approximately this month. But we wouldn't want you max out your arms with such a heavy phone now would we.

The firmware is stated in Firmware Version. For some reason, you're on 1.5. Updating is as easy as Settings and then choosing System Updates/Check for Updates. It should be high on the list of options.
 
jonnybryce said:
Honestly you really made a horrible decision and really should switch while you can, as the Eris is going to be dead and the Droid not only has better specs now but will be the first non-Nexus One phone to get 2.2 approximately this month. But we wouldn't want you max out your arms with such a heavy phone now would we.

The firmware is stated in Firmware Version. For some reason, you're on 1.5. Updating is as easy as Settings and then choosing System Updates/Check for Updates. It should be high on the list of options.
Oh please. I said I don't like heavy, bulky objects in my pockets, not that it's too heavy to hold. I like to travel light and it's a big factor for me whether I'm buying a phone a wallet or an mp3 player. And I'm not going to play the "That one's outdated you need the new one that'll be outdated in another 6 months" game. I went through that with videocards, and never again. When my Eris stops working and no longer runs any new apps, then I'll consider it "dead". I might have considered the Droid Incredible but I needed a new phone, and I'm not waiting another month just for Verizon/HTC's slow ass to release more of them.


System Updates says my phone is up to date. (?)


The Droid is pretty small :lol
It's certianly not thin, and you're out of your mind if you don't think it's heavy for a cellphone. It's nearly 6 ounces. I played around with a coworker's a while back and it just isn't something I'd want to carry around in my pocket every day for the next however many months. I already have enough shit to carry around in my pockets.
 
thewesker said:
I have a question: So, let's say I buy an Incredible or something today. Can I return it on July 15th and swap it out for the Droid X if I want? I would still be within my 30 days to do so, right?

First of all...this is stupid....just wait...its not that far out....why pay 35 dollars just to abuse the system and spend extra time switching information and activating phones? just wait till the droid X comes out if thats what you want.

Secondly....this is a impossibility to do with the Incredible anyways since its on back order and youd be able to get the droid X BEFORE your incredible would even ship out.
 
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