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Android Hardware Thread - 2010 Edition
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Posting from my new Vibrant (T-Mobile Galaxy S) and I'm really digging it. Sucks that others are having issues with the GPS. I've used it a few times and seems to work fine for me. Compass too. What kind of things are people seeing anyway? Just flat out not working? Inaccurate?
I decided to take a look at the Captivate in person and it's a very nice device. It felt good in my hand and looks pretty nice as well. The speed on the device is very good and it seems to handle the tasks I could throw at it without much delay.
I currently own an iPhone 4 so I was able to compare my experience side by side. I have to say that the iPhone 4 beats it in a couple of aspects. The iPhone 4 feels more solid and looks nicer IMO and the screen quality and resolution are better on the iPhone 4 as well. Looking at both screens side by side you could easily tell the iPhone 4 screen just looked more vibrant and sharper. Browser performance also seemed to be edged out by the iPhone as it seemed to pickup what I wanted to do quicker and it was easier to read smaller text at a glance than on the Captivate.
All that being said, I *really* like the Captivate and it felt much better to me than the Nexus One I had which I returned due to an issue with the screen failing to recognize my inputs correctly. The Captivate has many more options for me which are a big deal to me and the power of Android is amazing. iPhone revolutionized the phone market, but Android is bringing out the big guns and they are hot.
Overall fit and finish and final product from a stock perspective go to the iPhone, it's just more refined. I would have bought the Captivate then and there if the screen were up to par with the iPhone's. Is the EVO's screen better than iPhone's in person?
I currently own an iPhone 4 so I was able to compare my experience side by side. I have to say that the iPhone 4 beats it in a couple of aspects. The iPhone 4 feels more solid and looks nicer IMO and the screen quality and resolution are better on the iPhone 4 as well. Looking at both screens side by side you could easily tell the iPhone 4 screen just looked more vibrant and sharper. Browser performance also seemed to be edged out by the iPhone as it seemed to pickup what I wanted to do quicker and it was easier to read smaller text at a glance than on the Captivate.
All that being said, I *really* like the Captivate and it felt much better to me than the Nexus One I had which I returned due to an issue with the screen failing to recognize my inputs correctly. The Captivate has many more options for me which are a big deal to me and the power of Android is amazing. iPhone revolutionized the phone market, but Android is bringing out the big guns and they are hot.
Overall fit and finish and final product from a stock perspective go to the iPhone, it's just more refined. I would have bought the Captivate then and there if the screen were up to par with the iPhone's. Is the EVO's screen better than iPhone's in person?
Ecto311 said:
Those are both limitations made by Apple, funnily enough
iTunes only syncs with iPhones/iPods (though 2 minutes of research would have led you to an app on the market that allows you to sync with iTunes).
and you couldn't send images/video to your wife's iPhone because the iPhone doesn't have bluetooth filesharing
I don't know about the other issues since they are hardware rather than software, and I don't own that phone - but it doesn't look like it would have mattered even if they were non-issues
Circle T
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I'll give you that the iPhone has more resolution, and looks exceptionally sharp. But in my opinion, every other aspect of the Galaxy S line's S-AMOLED screen is better. Color, contrast, saturation, etc. The iPhone 4 has a fantastic screen, there is no doubt about that, but to me Samsung is the new leader in handset screens.outsidah said:
QuiteWhittle
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If the Galaxy S' screen wasn't up to your standards, then the EVO's most definitely won't.outsidah said:
The Galaxy S just has a much better screen than any Android phone currently on the market.
jonnybryce
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Ecto311 said:
Superblatt said:
I'll never understand what's so hard about googling "Sync iTunes with Android" and finding the amazingly simple and awesome iSyncr app
outsidah said:
It's odd that you say this because the benefit of Super Amoled over Retina display is everything except it's current resolution (vibrant, color, saturation, picture in motion).
ThatObviousUser
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jonnybryce said:
I'll never understand what's so hard about just not using that crapware iTunes, either.
Different strokes for different folks.Jamesfrom818
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Totakeke said:
I want that
Jtwo said:
Somehow they forgot that the EVO was given away at the last Google I/O.
outsidah said:
I was using an iPhone 4 and an EVO together for a while. The iPhone 4 certainly has a noticeably higher pixel density, however the EVO's screen is much larger. Ultimately, I found it harder to get over the small size of the iPhone's screen than the lower pixel density on the EVO, which is one of the reasons I decided to keep the EVO. I fear that using a 4.3" screen is going to ruin me on smaller phones forever.
Looks like I've found a solution for Galaxy S - Kies connectivity problem.
If your phone can't be detected in Kies mode, open device manager and see if you can find "Mass Storage Controller" with error sign in it.
right click on the icon -> properties -> disable
restart your pc and try connecting in Kies mode again. Make sure Kies app tray is running.
I have no problem in Kies mode after that.
If your phone can't be detected in Kies mode, open device manager and see if you can find "Mass Storage Controller" with error sign in it.
right click on the icon -> properties -> disable
restart your pc and try connecting in Kies mode again. Make sure Kies app tray is running.
I have no problem in Kies mode after that.
Macho Madness
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I'll never understand what's so hard about having a solution that doesn't suck.jonnybryce said:
"Use some garbage app you have to pay for" isn't a solution.
jonnybryce
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:lol you've got to be kidding me. First of all its not a garbage app, it syncs like lightning and with no issues.thewesker said:I'll never understand what's so hard about having a solution that doesn't suck.
"Use some garbage app you have to pay for" isn't a solution.
Second, its not Google's job to make a method that works with shitty iTunes.
Third, what the fuck kind of backwards logic rules your mind? So no app that costs money is considered a solution for the function it serves? The iPhone's notes app sucks, you can buy tons of better ones with actual features. I guess that's not a solution? Ok then. Thanks for the laugh.
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Man johnny, you've been a bit vicious lately. :lol I like it.
That whole "it's not Google's job" mantra results in many of the perceived problem with the platform. iTunes is an integral part to many people's lives, and having a method to allow people to sync with it likely would go a long way with the transition process to Android.jonnybryce said:
As for your third point, the iPhone has a note app. You can get a better app for notes, but nonetheless, Apple has provided a note app. Google has not provided a method to sync with iTunes.
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Patriots7 said:
They do. It's called the Android Marketplace. If you want a phone that syncs iTunes of the bat, buy an iPhone. Does the iPhone sync with Windows Media Player? The only time I've ever heard the whole 'it's not Google's job' except for this example is the fragmentation argument. If you have your ear to the ground you'll know that Gingerbread will allow you to stream your entire iTunes library with a simple piece of software you install on your pc/mac. Whether that will include syncing isn't known as yet.
Patriots7 said:
Because they can't, it's Apple's software.
Just like Apple hasn't provided solutions for Google products.
Love how pompous your phrasing is. "an integral part to many people's lives"... Nice. Taken right from an ad. You could say the same about Gmail and android. Whatever.
Macho Madness
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It is a garbage app. I tried to use it and it was a complicated mess and didn't work once.jonnybryce said:
Second, yes it is. I don't care if it's iTunes or not, as long as it's a real, official solution. As for your last point, I don't think something that's been standard (media syncing) since the original iPhone should require some third party app that may or may not work with certain models.
ThatObviousUser
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Fuck iTunes. Apple has always tried their hardest to lock everyone out of it, and now it's Google's fault you can't sync with that bloated piece of shit program? Yeah, no.
Macho Madness
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Re-read what I said. I don't care if it's iTunes or not. Look, I'm not meaning to say android sucks or something but this is an area that could really use some improvement. I want a solution that isn't third party.Andrex said:
Why would the iPhone sync with Windows Media? Apple provides an alternative to Windows Media, syncing with an alternative media player would be at odds with the closed ecosystem which Apple has built. Forget the fact that iTunes is near synonymous with Media Players, the example does not hold weight as Google does not provide an official alternative to iTunes, nor an official way to transfer media on to any Android device.OriginalThinking said:
I'm waiting for Google Music since iTunes has steadily gotten rather poor in terms of performance, but I don't think it's helping anybody to state that Google has exactly nailed the syncing media onto Android phones at the moment.
Are you saying that Google can't create (or the more likely case, buy a company that can create) software that syncs media from iTunes and Windows Media?Gabyskra said:
Apple hasn't provided solutions for Google services on the iPhone? Eh. News to me.
LivetoFollow
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Patriots7 said:
Google isn't going to provide a desktop software solution regarding Android OS. To expect this ignores, imo, Google's cloud philosophy.
What you will see (much like the market and chrome push services), is a cloud based Google Music solution.
In any case, Google has already provided you an avenue for getting audio files onto your phone through data mounting.
If one is addicted to the simplicity of Itunes, then they will use a device that Apple's software allows to sync with it. If you remember, Palm (i believe), tried to get their devices to associate with iTunes and Apple squashed them on that. Unless I'm wrong.
If I'm right, then why is it unreasonable for a third-party software solution? The next iteration of Android will allow wireless play from iTunes, it seems like the most reasonable solution the company can take regarding a competitors closed software.
Not sure how Apple responds to RIM, but Apple continually changes things in order to break Palm's compatibility with iTunes.Patriots7 said:
Palm gets it to work by getting the Pre to make it look like an Apple device.
You should really just recognize that Apple really doesn't like other people working with their products and ACTIVELY try to thwart such efforts.
But if you're just happy for something that can sync with iTunes, I think DoubleTwist does that. I think it can take playlist and podcasts from iTunes and put it in DoubleTwist, which you can then sync with your phone.
But really, I'm not sure why anyone would use iTunes in the first place. Especially, since it's supporting such awful practices.
If you really want everything to work with iTunes, ask Apple to stop being so aggressive. After all, when they actively block other people from using their things, it is kind of their fault.
Freyjadour
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I'd really like to get off the iPhone and move onto a 4.3'' Android phone (or larger). Not sure I really care for the Captivate? Was looking at the Dell Streak and it seems pretty good aside from running 1.6.
Freyjadour
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zoku88 said:
That's the point! I wanna UPgrade! :lol
But yeah I concur it's going to be a bit of a stretch, but oh boy would it be fun to have around.
You mean, does it have the Android Market installed? Judging from a picture in the CNET review, it looks like it does.Lonely1 said:
Though, your use of "qualify" is a bit weird. The manufacturers or carriers pay Google to put their apps on their phones/tablets. So, as long as they pay, they have the market, I think.
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Lonely1 said:
Yeah it's got it.
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Lonely1 said:
The 2.2 Compatibility Definition Document (CDD) allows non-phone devices. Also the ODROID-T is a dev device so it probably wouldn't have gotten it anyways.
There are other requirements though, even in 2.2. Things like a 1.3 megapixel camera (at least), 6-way accelerometer, A-GPS sensor, a way to download updates, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, the three main buttons... some others I'm forgetting.
The Streak has phone capabilities which is how it got the Market.
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Lonely1 said:
Yeah, it was updated just with Android 2.2. We should be seeing more tablets with the Market and other Google applications soon.
ThatObviousUser
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Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease be stock Android.
Though that's unlikely as a little birdy has told me T-Mobile has been hiring their own Android programmers lately.
Jamesfrom818
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thirty said:here's the new hotness. this is the rumored project emerald.
Hot but why do the home and back buttons always get switched. Kinda annoying. I wish manufacturers would stick with one button layout.
no one knows much about this phone yet. early rumors were that it's to be the first 3.0 phone. i really don't care but hope it's on tmo's "near" 4G network.Andrex said:Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease be stock Android.
Though that's unlikely as a little birdy has told me T-Mobile has been hiring their own Android programmers lately.
crumbs
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Any rumors on a higher spec'd HTC handset coming to AT&T? I like the Aria, but wouldn't mind something a bit bigger and more powerful.
I know Samsung just released the Captivate, but I've wary after past experiences with Samsung phones. It didn't help that the local AT&T store display model's touch sensitive buttons were already messed up.
I know Samsung just released the Captivate, but I've wary after past experiences with Samsung phones. It didn't help that the local AT&T store display model's touch sensitive buttons were already messed up.
Macho Madness
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Yep, the original Droid is stock and still had Motorola mucking with it before it was pushed OTA.zoku88 said:
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