Not to be a downer because I really do think Graces US is a sure bet, but couldn't the 1-2 person "localization staff" in the Japanese credits for Vesperia & Graces simply be the people translating the English that's already in the Japanese version? Like on signs and town names, etc...
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Any announcements for Tales of Vesperia PS3 - Stateside??
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Kasumi1970 said:
List is missing Cross Edge and Record of Agarest War for the PS3. They may be crappy (I kinda enjoyed Cross Edge), but they really are RPGs. Of course, if this is supposed to be the PS3's current lineup, several of those games aren't released yet in the U.S., and another fair chunk were released after Vesperia PS3 came out in Japan. Let's look at what came before, since we're comparing to pre-Symphonia Gamecube...
Cross Edge
Disgaea 3
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
Eternal Sonata
Fallout 3
Folklore
Penny Arcade Adventures
Sacred 2
Valkyria Chronicles
Did I miss any?
Rollo Tomasi
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Namco Bandai should release it in the late Summer/Fall of 2010. I don't know of any other major PS3 releases coming out during that window of time. It is a no-brainer.
grandjedi6 said:
I like how you're being extra generous on what you'd consider an PS3 RPG and being fairly strict on what counts as a GCN RPG.
Gamecube got around 20-30 RPGs depending on how strict or loose you'd want to go. Sure, only seven or so of those were any good, and only a few of those were entirely exclusive, but there you go.
Regardless, PS3 is going to end up a lot better even without ToV coming over to the US. You can always import it after all.
Scythesurge
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I bit on 360 version of vesperia when amazon had it for $15 b/c its been too long and I don't think an enhanced ps3 version in america is ever happening. Of course I haven't had time to play it since I got it so maybe I'm the fool in the end.
I own every console except for 360 and ToV is pretty much the only game I'm considerably pissed about not coming out on other consoles. Doubly pissed because they've already localized it, and released a PS3 version in Japan but are inexplicably not releasing it stateside. I mean, it can't possibly cost them that much money when they've already ported it and translated a version of the game.
charlequin
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Nirolak said:
Vesperia actually didn't drop in price for a loooooong time, so in fact the majority of those almost certainly were at full price and that makes it like the second-most successful Tales game in the US, but it's still pretty crappy overall.
darkwings said:
There were, literally, zero good original full-on RPGs on GCN when Symphonia released, and when you factor in ports it climbs to one.
PepsimanVsJoe said:
Yep. I'd rather have both (and also a pony) but given the shittacular options available in reality, I'd rather have Graces.
Bebpo said:
A localization credit could possibly be that, yes, but the specific credit for Jeremy Clark wouldn't fit that, since he's a localization producer and not a translator.
Regulus Tera
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The lack of Graces localisation confirmation preoccupies me more.
charlequin said:
As a niche game (cause Tales really isn't going to be anything more than that here, no matter what they try. Symphonia was an anomaly, and that ain't ever happening again.), I think it did very well. As I stated in another thread a short while ago, numbers like these would have been a tremendous success for a company like Atlus. Namco's apparent expectations are insanely unreasonable.
On the other hand, there's STILL a fair bit of demand for this game even though it's out of print. Sealed copies are around the same price as MSRP now...and the price continues to climb. I have no idea how much this would affect potential PS3 version sales but might as well throw it out there. It has good word of mouth, at least.
If they reuse the bits and pieces of the 360 localization, and add whatever's necessary to the PS3 version, they can't possibly need to sell more than say, 10k units to make up the difference...judging from some of the things Vic has said in the past.
But whatever. Carry on with the pissing off of the the English-speaking fanbase, Namco.
charlequin said:
Past Tales localization producers (Nao Higo and Peter Garza...especially Garza) have left the impression that they've done a lot of work on their localizations directly, including some translating (menu stuff) and editing (script). I don't know about Jeremy Clark.
On another note, Peter Garza (responsible for Legendia, Abyss, Radiant Mythology, Vesperia, and as a consultant for Dawn of the New World), left Namco for Tecmo last April. Garza handled the series within his power extremely well; the games he was involved with had the best localizations by far, IMO. (I'd actually be slightly worried about how consistent the new localized parts of a possible PS3 version would be to the 360's without his guidance.)
charlequin
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cress2000 said:
Well, let me put it this way: I think in an alternate universe, where a company with anything vaguely resembling competence was managing the franchise rather than Scamco pissing into the wind in Japan and the US both, I think you could have gotten something like Vesperia up above 200k copies sold in the US. And I can see how, say, the cost of VA would push the "profitable" point on something like Vesperia up above your average non-Persona Atlus title, say.
They don't need encouragement to do this. In fact, they like it so much they started doing it to the Japanese fanbase too. :lol
True, although I still wouldn't expect them to be the people called in to handle a few random bits of English in the Japanese release.
For what it's worth, my local GS manager swears that it's coming to the PS3 this year. And he was right about a couple of games before they were announced and had SKUs, such as Assassin's Creed 2 Discovery for the DS, most recently. He hasn't let me down yet!
Commanche Raisin Toast
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this thread makes me sad. i've been wanting to play ToV for a long time and i feel like it's slipping through my fingers now.
if namcobandai decided to outsource a different company to do the localization (as john said is possible), what advantage would they have for doing that? cheaper? faster? doesn't seem like it would make sense to suddenly switch companies. unless there is some logistical stuff that i don't know about behind the scenes involving it being released overseas. maybe they're hiring a company in europe/america/canada? bahh, who knows.
dammit.
if namcobandai decided to outsource a different company to do the localization (as john said is possible), what advantage would they have for doing that? cheaper? faster? doesn't seem like it would make sense to suddenly switch companies. unless there is some logistical stuff that i don't know about behind the scenes involving it being released overseas. maybe they're hiring a company in europe/america/canada? bahh, who knows.
dammit.
Why would you do that?
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Tales is probably the only major game series that fans tend to end up relying on fan translations for. 
Why does Namco have to be so... conservative? (Is that the right word?)
If Tales of Vesperia is announced for the PS3 in North America, I promise that I'll buy a PS3 just for that... Especially if it has full N.American voice acting. I don't know though, because, if the voice actors haven't gone in to record new lines... but I don't want to give up hope so easily!
Why does Namco have to be so... conservative? (Is that the right word?)If Tales of Vesperia is announced for the PS3 in North America, I promise that I'll buy a PS3 just for that... Especially if it has full N.American voice acting. I don't know though, because, if the voice actors haven't gone in to record new lines... but I don't want to give up hope so easily!
Kishgal said:
Referencing Datschge's wiki, the only games to mention a localization team in the credits of the Japanese version are Vesperia 360 and Graces.
These are just my assumptions and someone with more knowledge may have to tell the real deal, but in the case of Vesperia, I guess you could say that the localization was tied closely to the game's development to ensure that it had a small gap between the releases of the Japanese version and the North American version, so even the Japanese version credits them. I don't really know what's going on with Graces (maybe localization was tied to development here as well, but for whatever reason(s), it can't be announced just yet).
So...I guess TOV isn't coming to the PS3, based on all the GAF posts ...I might have to rebuy my Xbox CE version for the same amount that I sold it on ebay... ..those things are so rare even moreso nowadays..before I take plunge, GAF, Is everybody certain once and for all that TOV PS3 isn't coming at all?? Might want to keep my TOV game for collection purposes, than, and if the PS3 version does come out, resell the Xbox360 version on ebay. Well...here's to the ebay plunge I guess.
Edit: I wanted the Loli pirate too
...I might have to rebuy my Xbox CE version for the same amount that I sold it on ebay... ..those things are so rare even moreso nowadays..before I take plunge, GAF, Is everybody certain once and for all that TOV PS3 isn't coming at all?? Might want to keep my TOV game for collection purposes, than, and if the PS3 version does come out, resell the Xbox360 version on ebay. Well...here's to the ebay plunge I guess.Edit: I wanted the Loli pirate too
lucablight
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NolbertoS said:So...I guess TOV isn't coming to the PS3, based on all the GAF posts
Edit: I wanted the Loli pirate too
Not 100% sure but the chances seem quite slim. The most rage inducing thing is that the Namco Bandai scum won't just come out and say it isn't coming because they like trolling their fanbase. Apparently most of their stuff is announced in March-April so you may want to wait till then.
Hours Left
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Word on that. The most hilarious/ridiculous thing they've ever said was in an interview with Siliconera after DotNW was released; where it was mentioned they plan to take a "well-deserved deep breath" before deciding on their next Tales release. (This interview was released in Oct. 2008)lucablight said:
>_<
Yes, by all means Namco USA, don't strain yourselves. You must be winded from the avalanche of Tales games you've been releasing in North America.
How much did you sell it for?NolbertoS said:So...I guess TOV isn't coming to the PS3, based on all the GAF posts
Edit: I wanted the Loli pirate too
grandjedi6
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Gunloc said:
You're just being silly; the localization people saying they are taking a break isn't worth that kind of rage, especially since its not their fault. Its not like they are two guys goofing off and deciding not to release Tales of games as if they were the deciders of such a thing.
Also, in retrospect, that statement obviously meant no Tales of games for 2009. Hopefully they haven't said anything similar recently :lol
this thread just reminded me that i have to finish the game, i think you guys shouldn't wait if you don't mind the japanese texts and story (the story is typical anime cliche and don't deserve your attention) the gameplay is awesome, you'll probably need a guide from gamefaqs though.
Dreamgazer
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I'm still waiting for NA version of Tales of Hearts *cough*
grandjedi6
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Haven't they only brought over 1 of those "shitty spinoffs"? Well 2 if you count Symphonia Wii, but that isn't exactly the same.darkwings said:
Not happening. Namco has never published a Tales of game later than 1 year past its original Japanese release. Plus, its chances were always dim as it was a handheld game with lots of voice acting.Eternal Sleeper said:
The most hilarious/disappointing part of the DS Tales is that Namco actually was planning on releasing Tales of the Tempest at one point (before deciding to save us from that travesty). They even did some voice work. :lol
Dreamgazer
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grandjedi6 said:
I know, which is why I added the "*cough*" part >.>
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