elbourreau
Member
Sega is too busy suing Level 5 and banning youtube accounts.... They have to make a choise, and they did.
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
Any reason why Sega hasn't made shenmue 3 yet?
- Thread starter BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
- Start date
I've heard Shenmue cost $60-70 million, but that supposedly included some of the work done on Shenmue II and III.
It was probably like being on a train with broken brakes set to collide with another train: your only choices are to jump out or stay on, and you'll probably die either way. Expensive projects like that aren't exactly done overnight afterall, we even had Saturn prototype footage.
I want to play Shenmue III as much as the next fan, but I pretty much gave up some time ago... 
Putting aside the original games failure (in comparison of the ridiculous money it took to make them) argument, the cult following of the series just can't support a new entry and I can't see Shenmue reaching a broader audience in its current state.
Still, I hope they release I/II on digital platforms somewhere down the road. I like to replay them from time to time, but don't have my Dreamcast anymore. Also, I got my DC waaaaay after the system died and thus never had the occasion to give Sega my money directly when it comes to Shenmue. I would literally buy full-price copies for every platform it comes out on that I own.
Putting aside the original games failure (in comparison of the ridiculous money it took to make them) argument, the cult following of the series just can't support a new entry and I can't see Shenmue reaching a broader audience in its current state.
Still, I hope they release I/II on digital platforms somewhere down the road. I like to replay them from time to time, but don't have my Dreamcast anymore. Also, I got my DC waaaaay after the system died and thus never had the occasion to give Sega my money directly when it comes to Shenmue. I would literally buy full-price copies for every platform it comes out on that I own.
Yu Suzuki recently said that that figure is incorrect.
dark_inferno
Member
I would buy it even through i didnt played them yet.
zerokoolpsx
Member
It was expensive as hell. Even compared to AAA titles today. Shenmue 1 and 2 definitely lost a lot of money. It's dead. Let it stay dead.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Yeah, I'm trying to find that article too, but with no luck so far.
MikeE21286
Member
Initial estimates were that the budget was as high as $70 million by Yu Suzuki himself, but it was actually later stated to be $47 million. The truth is somewhere around there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmXVco0Bkyk
Yu Suzuki said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...obably_Let_Me_Make_Shenmue_3.php#.UPe886HjlEo
Yu Suzuki said:
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Cause antagonizing your demographic is always a good move.
krimsoncharge
Member
better question would be "why hasnt sega done a HD re release of shenmue 1 and 2 yet"
dragonflys545
Member
SEGA is definitely not done with the Shenmue franchise.
Remember this?
He's not even in the sequel lmao. Sega just doesn't give a rats ass anymore.
Had to make room for Wreck-It Ralph...:/
KingHippo1967
Member
Yes, but that was 13 years ago. We've got a whole new generation of gamers now, gamers who have no exposure to Shenmue other than the generic-looking guy who appeared in their Sonic racing game.
Shenmue did so well on DC because it was revolutionary at the time (plus there weren't many other big DC exclusives). The shock factor and freshness would be gone with a third game.
He is not in the sequel yet.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
I wudnt minda cheap online game. Even a social game. Even one a text base adventure.
Just wanna finish this shit ffs. Fuck off sega.
Just wanna finish this shit ffs. Fuck off sega.
Phonomezer
Banned
Have any other game reached Shenmue's level of detail yet?
Everytime I play Sleeping Dogs I cry a bit on the inside wishing that budget went to Shenmue 3.
Particularly Ryo's house? Nope.
Particularly Ryo's house? Nope.
KingHippo1967
Member
Yes. Being able to pick things up and rotate them with your single-axis wrist isn't a big deal anymore (as LA Noire showed) and many games have environments with comparable attention to detail (Yakuza, Sleeping Dogs, even Mafia II)
Or all those shops and other buildings that weren't integral to the game, but could be entered nonetheless. Every time I replay it I discover a new place.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Have you even played the game? There hasn't been a game released (that I can think of) that has the amount of unlockable content and easter eggs that Shenmue has. I can't ever recall playing another game where I discover new things every time I play through it. New cut scenes, the way things play out, new dialogue, etc.
IrishNinja
Member
OP: i'm a shenmue fan till i die, but every time someone does this juxtaposition with Yakuza, it breaks my heart. one series was profitable for them, the former wasn't, if even due to timing.
i wanna say their big digi push can someday justify an HD re-release to test the waters, but a full-on part 3 is simply a dream i won't let go of.
i mean, kind of? his status to me there is still unclear, last i heard it was like he was being rented out
in a perfect world, he'd have his own unlimited budget like miyamoto, honestly...he's gaming royalty, everyone who likes nearly anything here on GAF owes his designs something.
YOURE NOT A GOOD GAME actually you're right, they're the best
i wanna say their big digi push can someday justify an HD re-release to test the waters, but a full-on part 3 is simply a dream i won't let go of.
i mean, kind of? his status to me there is still unclear, last i heard it was like he was being rented out
in a perfect world, he'd have his own unlimited budget like miyamoto, honestly...he's gaming royalty, everyone who likes nearly anything here on GAF owes his designs something.
That's one of the things I enjoyed about Shenmue. The world felt real.
But I loved the implementation of QTEs in Shenmue. I don't hold it responsible for future transgressions.
IrishNinja
Member
this is like blaming ICO or RE4 for escort missions; you don't fault the games that do them right, do you?
It didn't invent QTEs, it only gave them a name.
Because we really wanted our revenge. Playing a sequel and then being told to calm down pissed me off.
IrishNinja
Member
especially given that (speaking for a chunk of the fanbase) a lot've us would pay good money even if it just used the DC engine & had the last portion of the game told like disc 2 of xenogears, vs the nothing we've had so far...though a game that used the Yakuza 5 engine would be amazing, and hopefully not that much more cost a year or more from now
Hong was trying to make sure you were ready to take on Lan Di, Reiko
respect
ResidentDante
Member
Sega is too busy making shitty Sonic games.
Nope. Does that level of detail need to be in a game? Absolutely not and the additional labour hours that it took added to the cost which ultimately led to its downfall. However, if that detail wasn't in the game, we probably wouldn't be talking about it now as it's what helped it be so immersive and magical. Considering when it was release, that shit was mind blowing. However, commercially, it probably doesnt make sense for Sega and I gave up hope long ago .
Lee Chaolan
Member
Because they're saving their money for Seaman 2 instead? 
(Space Channel 5 Part 3 would be welcome too.)
(Space Channel 5 Part 3 would be welcome too.)
CoffeeExpress
Member
What I don't understand is why don't they re-release Shenmue 1 & 2 in a HD collection and gauge off the sales is it viable to make Shenmue 3? I suppose it makes too much sense for Sega.
Actually, I haven't heard anything on the Sonic front since Generations. The racing game I guess, but both it and Generations are really good so... ???
It would be a gamble as to whether it would be profitable, I would think. Plus, I'm sure the mere mention of "Shenmue" in a Sega boardroom these days is taboo.
Before Shenmue 3 they have to make Shenmue HD collection. Make it digital only to save costs if need be. But in all honesty even if those sold great I think Nagoshi and Team Yakuza wouldn't want to come back to a cult dormant franchise at the risk of "betraying" the ideal sequel that the fans have in their mind. Sega just moved on.
it would cost way more than it would make in returns* as what fans love about shenmue is the incredible attention to detail in the game world which means they couldn't really make a cheap version that would make a profit. they could conceivably do a visual novel to finish the story but i don't know if they want to so long after shenmue 2 and with yu suzuki lacking power and maybe interest
*and the opportunity cost of the right people doing it instead of making a yakuza game is significant too
hopefully sega make the financial mistake though (so long as it doesn't kill the company completely). or they put out an hd re-release and that somehow really takes off as people appreciate its genius in a walking dead & journey game of the year world where 'it's like gta but without fun' is less of a criticism (reality: decent sales to dreamcast fans and the curious but 5/10 reviews from major sites puts most gamers off).
*and the opportunity cost of the right people doing it instead of making a yakuza game is significant too
hopefully sega make the financial mistake though (so long as it doesn't kill the company completely). or they put out an hd re-release and that somehow really takes off as people appreciate its genius in a walking dead & journey game of the year world where 'it's like gta but without fun' is less of a criticism (reality: decent sales to dreamcast fans and the curious but 5/10 reviews from major sites puts most gamers off).
Sapphire Dreams
Member
There are a lot of Dreamcast games that I want to see return, sadly Shenmue isn't one of them, I like the games, I know it'll sell like shit because SEGA, like most publishers, don't know how to market games.
Yeah in Yakuza 6 they can make him playable character with side missions and own town etc
ThisWreckage
Banned
Shenmue HD has been completed for a while now:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/03/16/shenmue-hd-is-finished-claims-report
Before someone says, "But yeah...IGN," please consider that Shenmue HD was apparently being made in conjunction with Jet Set Radio HD. This was reported by multiple sources and leaked out.
SEGA has no idea what they want to do with this franchise. They include Ryo in the first SEGA All Stars racing game and leave him out in the second. Yu Suzuki comments that he thinks SEGA is going to allow him to make Shenmue III. Yu Suzuki says he thinks SEGA would let him buy the IP. It's pretty obvious that they refuse to shit or get off of the pot. I think they told him they'd allow him to make Shenmue III, SEGA drags its feet, Yu Suzuki gets irritated and asks if he can buy the IP, SEGA says he can and ends up not committing to getting rid of the IP from its library.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/03/16/shenmue-hd-is-finished-claims-report
Before someone says, "But yeah...IGN," please consider that Shenmue HD was apparently being made in conjunction with Jet Set Radio HD. This was reported by multiple sources and leaked out.
SEGA has no idea what they want to do with this franchise. They include Ryo in the first SEGA All Stars racing game and leave him out in the second. Yu Suzuki comments that he thinks SEGA is going to allow him to make Shenmue III. Yu Suzuki says he thinks SEGA would let him buy the IP. It's pretty obvious that they refuse to shit or get off of the pot. I think they told him they'd allow him to make Shenmue III, SEGA drags its feet, Yu Suzuki gets irritated and asks if he can buy the IP, SEGA says he can and ends up not committing to getting rid of the IP from its library.
Similar threads
- Locked