hanspampel
Banned
Yes. Late pc release. No 60 fps on pro or scorpio. No cheap pc codes.
Maybe no cross-save (not that important for me)
Will likely skip the game
Maybe no cross-save (not that important for me)
Will likely skip the game
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Anyone else disappointed with Destiny 2 reveal?
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Destiny wound up being a solid way to waste some hours, but it never reached what I hoped/expected base on their pre-release presentations and talk.
Outside of the raids, Destiny absolutely is mindless shooting for the most part. Even the raids are once you have solid gear and know what pillar you need to stand on/what mcguffin to grab.
ethomaz
Banned
Except any other game reach the level of Destiny in terms of strategy and team coop to to beat the challenges the game give to you.
There is no other experience like Destiny in the market... it is unique.
I disagree.
Destiny wound up being a solid way to waste some hours, but it never reached what I hoped/expected base on their pre-release presentations and talk.
Outside of the raids, Destiny absolutely is mindless shooting for the most part. Even the raids are once you have solid gear and know what pillar you need to stand on/what mcguffin to grab.
Even after better gears and knowing what you need to do you have to think and change all time strategy to do Raids... it is dynamic... you need to change spots, sync with team, change you way to play each time... it is abso amazing the experience they created.
Each new play is different from last one.
Crucible too... it so great how you can change the pace of a match basing in the change of strategies or team coop.
Rainbow Six: Seige >>>>>>>> Destiny in terms of reacting, cooperating, being smart and being good.
ethomaz
Banned
I strong disagree... while I love Siege... Destiny up these points to another level... it is not even a fair comparison.
LordKasual
Banned
YEP it was
But after the disappointment that was Destiny itself, there was really no avoiding that
nothing short of some serious MMO mechanic changes would make me actually considering giving Destiny 2 a shot. So I'll wait for some confirmation on that.
It's the really simplistic shortcomings that murdered Destiny for me...like how they nerf PvE weapons to keep them balanced in PvP. What is this, 2006? You guys didn't have the foresight to separate PvP and PvE balancing from the beginning?
i'm getting disappointed just thinking about it
But after the disappointment that was Destiny itself, there was really no avoiding that
nothing short of some serious MMO mechanic changes would make me actually considering giving Destiny 2 a shot. So I'll wait for some confirmation on that.
It's the really simplistic shortcomings that murdered Destiny for me...like how they nerf PvE weapons to keep them balanced in PvP. What is this, 2006? You guys didn't have the foresight to separate PvP and PvE balancing from the beginning?
i'm getting disappointed just thinking about it
I'd have to play in order to see.
From the tidbits that leaked months ago, I expected a more open world approach to the maps/planets now with villages (or social hubs) and the ability to bring up mission objectives real time rather than in orbit. They mentioned this during the reveal by stating you need not go to orbit and showed a settlement, so in that aspect, I'm satisfied. I just need to see it in action (and the vastness of the maps) for myself.
Other than that, the scaling down to 4 vs 4 for PVP and keeping fireteam max to 3 instead of 4 are the real disappointments for me.
From the tidbits that leaked months ago, I expected a more open world approach to the maps/planets now with villages (or social hubs) and the ability to bring up mission objectives real time rather than in orbit. They mentioned this during the reveal by stating you need not go to orbit and showed a settlement, so in that aspect, I'm satisfied. I just need to see it in action (and the vastness of the maps) for myself.
Other than that, the scaling down to 4 vs 4 for PVP and keeping fireteam max to 3 instead of 4 are the real disappointments for me.
Parzival Qc
Member
Now it's clear that Destiny 2 is actually an expansion. This not necessarily a bad thing bas as someone that is completely done with the original it does not do enough yet to get me interested again.
Mass Appeal
Member
Sorry I have played Seige and that's such a bs statement. RAIDS Destiny are far more advanced and need more communication then anything in that game. In fact Siege had many server and lag issues when I was playing it with buddies. You either haven't played the raids and are just making up bs and trolling. What raids have you beat in D1 ?
Edit: the small number of people who are disappointed won't matter in the long run anyways. The destiny community is huge and it will most likely get bigger with D2.
Ivory Samoan
Member
I disagree, it seems (to a vanilla vet, then TTK, now more recently a AOT returnee) like a fully fledged sequel, I'm not sure why people were expecting a complete overhaul (this is more of a restart and revamp in the ways that count). That story mission from the reveal and the strike seem like a massive step up in design and depth compared to D1, PvP seems far more tactical too now.
So to answer the OP, no, I'm not disappointed at all: in fact I'm very excited and more hyped than prior to the reveal (which I went in with mildly tempered expectations).
I would put it at a complete opposite scale in terms of cooperating, smart moves and being good: reacting perhaps is superior in Siege though.
ethomaz
Banned
I'm making from my mind now...
But I believe Destiny was never supposed to have sequels... it was even to be a single game with updates/expansions happening every year with big retail releases.
What happened is that they created a bad framework of development... the engine ended not scalable to support this model... they learned a lot with Destiny and choose to remade the Engine and development framework to support this model.
Destiny 2 was a needed for them and not something they wanted... it was a solution to start from zero with a new Engine/Framewrok that allow them to create new events, DLCs, expansions, etc fast and easy for the whole year.
Destiny 2 probably won't have a sequel.
Do we have a total for unique planets, number of strikes, and raids on launch day?
Have they changed strike mechanics? Or is each one still capstoned by waves of enemies/a bullet sponge?
The raids ended up being the only interesting thing about the original, if you could get a competent group together.
Judging by what was shown, I'm not convinced.
Have they changed strike mechanics? Or is each one still capstoned by waves of enemies/a bullet sponge?
The raids ended up being the only interesting thing about the original, if you could get a competent group together.
Judging by what was shown, I'm not convinced.
Not in the slightest.
I'm a solo player except for match made modes and I played a ton in D1. Also I'm not hung up on fps as the difference between 30 and 60 has never occurred to me as game breaking. I know I'm in the minority here on this board.
I'd also point out that gaf did me a huge disservice as I bought into the D1 negativity on this board at first. So glad I picked it up on a whim a few months after release.
I'm a solo player except for match made modes and I played a ton in D1. Also I'm not hung up on fps as the difference between 30 and 60 has never occurred to me as game breaking. I know I'm in the minority here on this board.
I'd also point out that gaf did me a huge disservice as I bought into the D1 negativity on this board at first. So glad I picked it up on a whim a few months after release.
Mass Appeal
Member
Well you will be happy to know with guided games you can now matchmake for all end game including nightfalls and raids so you don't have to miss out on end game stuff being a solo player.
Edit: it's also good you didn't listen to General Gaming Gaf on D1. This board in general is very toxic when it comes to Destiny. Lots of trolling and fake chair devs thinking they could do better. DGAF community board is far more mature and friendly when you want to LFG or just talk about the game in general.
Not sure about D2 not having a sequel, but I think this sounds very plausible.
Effectively D2 is a soft reboot of the franchise on next gen only.
Dre_G_Writer
Member
To PC players, its a whole new game.
For consoles users, yea I can see where your coming from.
Can't say I'm dissapointed, because I did not buy Destiny 1 because of how expensive it is to keep up whenever actual new content shows up, and the utter lack of social tools that allow people to create parties for the raid content or just experience all content like clans. The sequel seems to address those issues which feel like quality of life improvements the first game desperately needed. Visually, it straight up looks like the first game but with better lighting, and im fine with that because I felt D1 was a pretty game even with it's last gen shackles. I'm hoping that all those lore cards will be in the game this ime around. Going out of the game to do that is stupid and immersion breaking, when other games are clearly capable of having their encyclopedias available from either a menu or in game location. But to be frank, the reveal didn't show enough about what's new about destiny 2, nothing obvious to anyone whose on the fence about the franchise like a new enemy faction for example. They're clearly holding back stuff but it makes me worry that is D2 about "hey, we fixed what's wrong with D1" instead of, "Look at all the new shit you can do but couldn't before in D2!" The former is ok, but the latter is exciting.
SpiceMelange
Member
Netherscourge
Banned
I was hoping they would have finally added Space Combat
Looks like the only space stuff is just loading screens again.
;(
Looks like the only space stuff is just loading screens again.
;(
I believe he's talking about PVE, which he's not wrong.
SpiceMelange
Member
There's nothing in his post suggesting so, he's referring the mindless shooting of Destiny which is not specific to PVE. And if that was the case he would have clarified so with the rainbow six siege dicussion a few posts up but didn't.
dragonflys545
Member
Destiny 2 will do worst than the first one. Me and a couple of friends were severely disappointed with launch destiny. Nothing was going to make me wait for updates and buy the dlcs. Also People were starving for games at the time.
The mindless shooting of Destiny.
So you didn't play Raids and stuff, right?
Destiny 2 is going to be huge. Bigger than the first, easily. I don't think anything can stop that.
ethomaz
Banned
This train already parted... D2 Will do better than D1... there is no way to stop it.
SpiceMelange
Member
......I am not saying it's mindless, it's the allegation the dude I was quoting was defending against. Try to read.
SMH
Activision won't let this game fail. Expect a marketing thunderstorm around this game.
The way you worded it could easily be in reference to your own opinion, in fact it reads very much like that.
Learn to articulate?
SpiceMelange
Member
Learn to read the whole post including the quote. There's this thing called context. Nice edit btw
veloxStrix
Banned
Destiny 2 will do just fine. I wouldn't be surprised if it did better than the first simply due to adding PC and dropping last gen. Time has shown that the majority of GAF has no ability to predict anything with this franchise. Or most popular online games, honestly.
I'm firmly on the now deleted "Learn to articulate" side. Even with context, your post still reads as your own opinion. Not sure what context was supposed to do to change that.
For a while they definitely did.
And it still reads like you meant it as your own opinion, too.
SpiceMelange
Member
....dude you missed the context and you're just trying to deflect. Wtf is wrong with you. "Stop being a jerk about it" lmao.
No, your post reads very much like you consider the shooting of Destiny to be mindless too. I got the context the first time, but you weren't clear.
Thank you for clarifying.
blue_phazon
Member
WTF is this
Destiny 2 has a very good chance of being the best selling game in 2017. I can't think of anything that could come close, especially since D2 is coming to PC.
SpiceMelange
Member
How can you even say that when I refer to the quoted post word for word and just before the literally word for word quote I said "he's referring". You didn't read the quote the first time and was confused. You can stop now it's ok.
I did read it, and your post remains ambiguous. Word for word on such a short sentence doesn't amount to much, and you could have used "" to be less ambiguous.
I'm really confused at your aggression here.
ethomaz
Banned
You pretty much said Destiny to be a mindless shooter in your reply to me.
That innacurate.
He/she is just looking for a fight, their posts make that obvious.
SpiceMelange
Member
Just as confused at your two insults you edited away.
No, I didn't. Reread it again.
Trickster
Member
There's 2 new vehicles in the footage. A straight up tank and something that looked somewhat like a yellow APC. So there's definitely new vehicles.
How they are implemented remains to be seen. I just hope they aren't restricted to specific sections in missions or strikes.
They were retorts to your own aggressive silliness, I removed it because I didn't want to escalate, then put it back when you quoted for clarity and because I'm actually a little fed up with your shitty attitude here.
Ignored for now, so I won't be replying from here on.
SpiceMelange
Member
What a childish attitude.
veloxStrix
Banned
Is anyone compiling a list of changes and additions to D2? There is so much footage floating around that I don't really want to watch all of it just to find something cool. Guess I could check reddit.
You literally replied to someone who said they were putting you on ignore. I'm fairly certain you should do some self-reflection as well.
You literally replied to someone who said they were putting you on ignore. I'm fairly certain you should do some self-reflection as well.
secretanchitman
Member
Absolutely disappointed, but that was to be expected because I was burned by Destiny 1 at launch.
Destiny 2 looks largely the same to me quite honestly. If this is the best they can do after working on the game for so long, then Im definitely not impressed. Also no dedicated servers, 60fps on consoles, little endgame content at launch plus the same old drip-feed DLC content packs like Destiny 1 had? No thanks.
Destiny 2 looks largely the same to me quite honestly. If this is the best they can do after working on the game for so long, then Im definitely not impressed. Also no dedicated servers, 60fps on consoles, little endgame content at launch plus the same old drip-feed DLC content packs like Destiny 1 had? No thanks.