Was aware of some of this but wow.
Seems like it'll be definitely be hard to top this as the shittiest Road to EVO qualifier. Seems like both the organizers and stream crew have no idea how to run a tourney properly either.
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Apex 2012 | Fighting game tournament | January 6-8
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Seems like it'll be definitely be hard to top this as the shittiest Road to EVO qualifier. Seems like both the organizers and stream crew have no idea how to run a tourney properly either.
Still no, her superior footsies and keepaway game make it one of the hardest match-ups still for Gief. And imo Gief's change of no longer having ex greenhand to cause knockdowns make it even harder.
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Heh
They have a long road ahead of them if they want to make the FGC folks feel comfortable with them now. I don't know what they can expect though. The space issue alone reminds me of the issues Crimson mentioned regarding the huge Smash community and EVO's ballroom rentals. There just isn't enough room for everyone.
The delays were retarded though.
Where do you live?
I really don't care how they "treat" the FGC, just have the basics there and know how to put together an actual tournament instead of running off and doing casuals instead of.. well you know actually running the tournament. Even on stream there were random casuals amidst actual matches, when do you have time for that stuff? :/
If this was supposed to somehow improve relations with the FGC though.. fission mailed.
Spirit of Jazz
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Chun's a really rough match for any grappler. As an Abel player I have to depend on focus-cancelling/ex-cod to get in as her normals her footsies and anti-air normals are so strong.
Justin Timberlake
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omg they didn't have a perfect lagless stream? And they weren't provided a speaker for a 90 person tournament?
Jesus fucking christ bro...
Go to a any FGC tournament and you'll see games like MK being played on 5 setups for like...2 hours any given day before they switch it to Marvel or whatever. This is babycakes, it really is.
The shit Melee heads are being put through with this tournament is way worse. You have 400+ sitting in their hotel room because there are only 20 friendly setups. Some of them literally traveled from across the world and they are being told to sit in their hotel room for one of the 3 days. This is not including the fact that most of them had to take off work because Melee was relegated to Friday only...
A 331 man tournament was expected to get to top 8 in one day. So they ran 2 rounds of 4 man pools. Melee tourneys are usually 3 rounds of 8-9 man pools. 4 man pools means you can lose ONCE and be out; some Togeki/SBO shit. All of these concessions for the FGC/Brawl have fucking sucked for Melee players....the tournament shouldn't have tried to have all these games in the first place. Everyone (except Brawl players ofc) is unhappy.
Florida. The only large-scale tournament I am aware of around here is CEO.
Jesus, when everything's put into perspective like that... This was a really strange tourney it seems.
I'd be so down on the idea of Next Level hosting an EVO qualifier though.
Spirit of Jazz
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As much as I love the idea of Yipes running a huge curly moustache at next level with Cen and Sp00ky, and as sure as I am that it would be ran as tightly as an event could be run. I doubt they have the floor space and cheap accommodation available.
CEO is also the only Major in the North South that I know about. If you wanna help out with CEO your best bet would be getting in touch with the tournament organizer, Jebailey, either through his:
Website
He probably would also be able to tell you about any other tourneys in the area you could help out with.
You could also check out these two sections of the SRK forums:
Atlantic South (Regional Matchmaking)
Tournaments & Events
lowhighkang_LHK
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Sp00ky and Yipes coming together to put together an EVO qualifier would be possible. Not all EVO qualifiers are massive, and for the most part - the same East Coast players who show up to Sp00ky's weekly Big 2, would show up to his EVO qualifier. The only difference is that you'd have maybe 20 or so extra people from around the country to fly in. And the venue they use isn't necessarily small. With some support they could rent a bigger place for a weekend.
Spirit of Jazz
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Love is over?
Ignore my prior comment then, this is the way they should have gone.
Next Level is definitely not ready for a major.. but it's kinda baffling NYC of all places doesn't have one. Cen/Sp00ky should work together to try and make one happen. They know how to run tournaments, and run them well. If Valle and Level|Up can run SCR, I'm sure Cen and Sp00ky can run a dedicated NYC tourney.
Maybe finding a large enough place in NYC to have a major is the issue.
Lazy vs Crazy
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Ski is freaking the fuck out.
Thanks. I may have to reach out to him and see if he could ever use an extra hand. Outside of the usual professional and social responsibilities, I have a fair amount of free time and money. Playing/watching these types of games is an enjoyable hobby of mine, and I wouldn't mind making an investment in the fighting game community.
^ I can pretty much guarantee that Jebailey isn't going to say no to more help. The majority of tournaments are home grown labors of love and I'm sure he'd appreciate all the help he can get.
And, just because I know Spooky would make the correction himself, Big Two is Cen's tournament not Spooky's. Obviously he does play a big role though.
Not really. Everyone here is hurting for money and space in NYC is expensive. Not to mention it would be expensive for out of town players looking for a place to stay.
And, just because I know Spooky would make the correction himself, Big Two is Cen's tournament not Spooky's. Obviously he does play a big role though.
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The melee numbers remind me that this tournament probably had a higher number of tournament attendants than SCR. Melee and Brawl alone could be over 600 even with some overlap(probably not much overlap though). Have these guys ever run such a large tournament before? I mean... the number of attendants put together should be about 1000 and this doesn't include the ridiculous amount of spectators at the actual event for all these communities.
Yeah, this is not really about the FGC. This is about resources and management.
Yeah, and I'd bet on some involvement from Big E too if something like that happened.
lowhighkang_LHK
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http://www.twitch.tv/medina4life
Losers final - Marvel. This is already better than Apex.
Holy shit OMG Andre vs. Arios (or whatever his name was) was so fucking hype. Holy shit.
O_O GNG Zues probably has the best Vergil I've ever seen. He actually makes the character look somewhat top tier as opposed to the slew of mid-tier Vergil's we see at various tournaments.
Losers final - Marvel. This is already better than Apex.
Holy shit OMG Andre vs. Arios (or whatever his name was) was so fucking hype. Holy shit.
O_O GNG Zues probably has the best Vergil I've ever seen. He actually makes the character look somewhat top tier as opposed to the slew of mid-tier Vergil's we see at various tournaments.
It's definitely a price/space issue. NYC is just too expensive- this is why you see all the M:TG PTQs and such taking place in Jersey (and even those don't have great locations).
Yeah, next year ElvenShadow definitely needs to try and get this as a Road to Evo tournament.
krone in http://www.justin.tv/medina4life
God, APEX is fuckin ass - what a shitty run tournament.
EDIT: I don't think EVO should ever consider APEX any more.
God, APEX is fuckin ass - what a shitty run tournament.
EDIT: I don't think EVO should ever consider APEX any more.
lowhighkang_LHK
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No joke. I just tuned in and it seems a lot of good Marvel players are there. Not too mention Wolfkrone.
There is no reason why this shouldn't make a push to be an EVO qualifier.
Cloudius12
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That Gundam game was hype.
http://www.twitch.tv/iplaywinner
Looks like they fixed whatever happened!
Edit: Apparently Min was so pissed with Apex that he asked for a refund lol.
Apex is run by a guy banned from the NYC fighting game community for running away with a pot after hitting his girlfriend, the cops arrived and the venue had to pay players out of pocket on the spot. They had just hired a brand new guy to run tournaments for the venue as well, but after that happened they refused to run any fighting game tournaments ever again. Said guy was fired mere days after being hired along with this TO. It was pretty much the best place in Manhattan to gather (lots of space and TVs, in a very convenient location). I'm curious how no one actually called him out on this and how this tournament is allowed to be run considering all of that. He never showed his face in that community for a long time. This was before SF4 came out.
So it's not surprising he ran this poorly too.
So it's not surprising he ran this poorly too.
Holy shit, how the fuck did APEX even got approval for EVO qualifiers?
Yayayaya, iplaywinner is in the building.
I don't think anyone in recent memory remembers the guy, and they don't seem to be at the tournament. Noel was actually at that tournament playing Arcana Heart I think but they weren't part of the same running as what this guy did.
Also I remember there being stirrings of him pulling seedy stuff in the Smash community in around the same era. Not sure what happened with that.
Web2Zone. It's closed now I think. It was pretty close off 14th Street or something.
Justin Timberlake
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Wait what? Who are you talking about? APEX is run by Alex Strife and he definitely wasn't a part of that..
The exaggerations are getting ridiculous now. SF, Marvel, and MK at least all got where they needed to be. Melee is the one getting fucked, but tbh, with me not being there, I can't say how bad it is...
DryEyeRelief
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if you want more marvel: http://www.twitch.tv/iplaywinner
StriKeVillain
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Thank you based Haunts.
WTF
Alex Strife ran that tournament. I saw this with my own eyes. I saw him running out of the room and out of the venue. This was a thing I witnessed.
Justin Timberlake
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Are you sure? He hit Crismas? Like, seriously?
Any proof of this? An SRK thread? Anything? Cause thats a pretty serious accusation man...
Ask any person at that tournament.
Edit: That was what was claimed and what the cops were dealing with. Whatever the case is was he ran out of the venue. This was in 2007? I believe.
I had the pleasure of running half a tournament in his absence and telling the ST players that their money didn't exist.
There is a thread on SRK where Sabin blew up Alex for running that tournament.
The topic is about Alex Strife asking for support in running an nyc major.
Yep, Art was there. He got 3rd place in 3rd Strike with Alex. Not sure if that helps. I think you paid 20 dollars and got entrance to all 4 Capcom games. Also for some reason CvS2 was single elim/game or something for no reason at all and Smash had half the entrants of the fighting game people but got twice the TVs as well.
For what it's worth it didn't run that poorly but that's because community people did all of the work.
StriKeVillain
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