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Anecdotal evidence ahoy!

Safari on iPhone was crashtastic on its first iteration. It's pretty damneD solid now. Very in frequent crashes. It hogs memory from other apps though.

On snow leopard safari crashes more than it did on leopard.
 
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/04/steve-jobs-rumored-to-have-recently-traveled-to-new-york-for-ipad-media-talks/


Silicon Alley Insider reports that Apple CEO Steve Jobs apparently traveled to New York City in recent days to meet with executives at The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal for discussions about bringing their content to the iPad.

We're reliably informed that Jobs showed up for an iPad show and tell in the Times newsroom. The meeting was strictly off the record, though a person present indicated Jobs is preparing to gear up the iPad for magazines and newspapers, having put books first on his list of priorities.
Jobs' visit to The Wall Street Journal was reportedly more low-key, eschewing a newsroom visit in favor of a more limited audience.

New York also reports that Jobs held a dinner meeting with 50 representatives of The New York Times.

Our source says Jobs, who sat at the head of the "intimate, family-style gathering" with Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger, demonstrated the iPad and its functions, and spoke about how it could serve the future of media.
At Apple's media event held to introduce the iPad, Apple executives focused primarily on traditional book publishers when discussing content partnerships, although The New York Times was heavily featured in demonstrations. In the days since the media event, Apple has reportedly been working to broaden its content deals, pursuing additional book publishers and bringing textbook publishers on board while now apparently beginning focused efforts on the newspaper and magazine industries.
 
mrkgoo said:
Anecdotal evidence ahoy!

Safari on iPhone was crashtastic on its first iteration. It's pretty damneD solid now. Very in frequent crashes. It hogs memory from other apps though.

On snow leopard safari crashes more than it did on leopard.

I can attest to this. I detest Safari on my work computer. Something about Snow Leopard just pisses it, as well as other applications I use, off.
 
Flo_Evans said:
You know what is hilarious to me, safari on my mac with flash almost never crashes... yet mobile safari without flash is a crash monster. Probably due to iphone memory limits, but still. I can't remember the last time safari crashed in OSX (and I am using the 32bit tiger version) but it's a daily occurrence on my iphone.

I assume you still have a 3G? Mobile Safari on the 3GS is completely solid.
 
Sriffat said:
develop iPad apps?
I think his point was that the comparison to the ipad in price is pointless.

I would, for example, say it's cheaper than their lowest end laptop on studeNt price.
 
alterego said:
That's the plastic Macbook not the aluminum Macbook Pro.

I didn't even click - I just trusted his title. And it's MORE expensive than the high end iPad ($829) at $849. If you're going to say that $20 doesn't make much difference, then a student is able to buy that MacBook for $899 brand new.
 
LovingSteam said:
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/04/steve-jobs-rumored-to-have-recently-traveled-to-new-york-for-ipad-media-talks/


Silicon Alley Insider reports that Apple CEO Steve Jobs apparently traveled to New York City in recent days to meet with executives at The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal for discussions about bringing their content to the iPad.

I may be impatient but this is why I'm glad the iPad won't be out for another 2 months. With the announcement over Apple is really reaching out to media outlets and app developers to make sure they're ready for the launch.

Should make the coming months really interesting.
 
Dupy said:
I may be impatient but this is why I'm glad the iPad won't be out for another 2 months. With the announcement over Apple is really reaching out to media outlets and app developers to make sure they're ready for the launch.

Should make the coming months really interesting.

Agreed. And that's why I think we haven't heard the entire story yet on the iPad and that there may yet be a surprise or two to come before it launches. I think they unveiled it when they had to, in order to get past FCC rulings and to be able to really pursue some active partnerships for fully.

I'm hoping that in another week or two, we'll start to see a steady stream of info on the iPad with more things being filled in.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Agreed. And that's why I think we haven't heard the entire story yet on the iPad and that there may yet be a surprise or two to come before it launches. I think they unveiled it when they had to, in order to get past FCC rulings and to be able to really pursue some active partnerships for fully.

I'm hoping that in another week or two, we'll start to see a steady stream of info on the iPad with more things being filled in.

I agree with you that we could be in for a surprise or two.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Agreed. And that's why I think we haven't heard the entire story yet on the iPad and that there may yet be a surprise or two to come before it launches. I think they unveiled it when they had to, in order to get past FCC rulings and to be able to really pursue some active partnerships for fully.

I'm hoping that in another week or two, we'll start to see a steady stream of info on the iPad with more things being filled in.

COuld be. Like they didn't want to chase too many partners before the reveal, and there's no point revealing, say, a magazine app without any partners.
 
mrkgoo said:
One that you can enter in ingredients you have in your refrigerator and it suggests something you can make.

These kinds of apps aren't for me, personally. If I want to make something at random I just improvise. I want a real recipe app to organize all of my recipes.
 
I definitely think we'll see some new apps from Apple and developers prior to the launch. Gruber linked to a blog that mentioned it was very odd that half of the iPhone's pre-installed apps (Clock, Weather, Stocks, Voice Memos, Calculator) are flat out missing from the iPad. It's very strange, especially considering how very basic those things like Weather and Calculator are. There's no way they could run as full-screen apps on an iPad, it'd be overkill. The article postulates that perhaps there is some sort of Dashboard feature for these things that are clearly widget-class applications.

http://fury.com/2010/02/do-the-ipads-missing-apps-point-to-a-multitasking-dashboard/

As I alluded to earlier, what Stocks, Weather, Voice Memo, Clock, and Calculator have in common is that they’re all simple ‘minor’ apps that wouldn’t know what to do with 1024×768 if you gave it to them. They’re intended for quick reference, for quick ‘in and out’ tasks. In short, they’re multitasking apps. It’s clear that Apple believes this because with the exception of Voice Memo all these apps were OS X dashboard widgets before the iPhone ever existed. I would put forward that they’re going back to their rightful place.
 
Gizmodo has some information on a new comic book viewer coming from Panelfly for the iPad. Looks pretty sweet in the pics. Find out more here.

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Looks nice.

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Apps will make this device. Just look at the NY Times app--no ads and no chrome really make quite a difference.

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StrikerObi said:
I definitely think we'll see some new apps from Apple and developers prior to the launch. Gruber linked to a blog that mentioned it was very odd that half of the iPhone's pre-installed apps (Clock, Weather, Stocks, Voice Memos, Calculator) are flat out missing from the iPad. It's very strange, especially considering how very basic those things like Weather and Calculator are. There's no way they could run as full-screen apps on an iPad, it'd be overkill. The article postulates that perhaps there is some sort of Dashboard feature for these things that are clearly widget-class applications.

http://fury.com/2010/02/do-the-ipads-missing-apps-point-to-a-multitasking-dashboard/
Stocks and Weather could benefit from enhanced versions with added depth/usability.
 
Comic app looks really nice. Funimation or whoever does the manga in the US needs to create an app. So many people already read it for free anyways if they released high quality weekly chapters for .99 - 1.99 I think a lot would bite.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Gizmodo has some information on a new comic book viewer coming from Panelfly for the iPad. Looks pretty sweet in the pics. Find out more here.
Definitely looks great, especially like how the app has it's own 'style' rather then using the same bland UI from the OS. More hires pics for satisfaction;

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Sentry said:
Definitely looks great, especially like how the app has it's own 'style' rather then using the same bland UI from the OS.
http://uxmag.com/design/ipad-user-experience-guidelines

Help people focus on the content by designing your application UI as a subtle frame for the information they’re interested in. Downplay application controls by minimizing their number and prominence. Consider creating custom controls that subtly integrate with your application’s graphical style. In this way, controls are discoverable, but not too conspicuous.
 
Tobor said:
/looks at Panelfly pics.

Look's like I'm getting the 64GB after all.

That's exactly why I've been planning to get the 64GB version all along. Not that I'm interested in comics per se, but this thing is going to be my all around media device, books, magazines, music, videos, and so on. And apps like this one are showing the huge potential of the iPad already. This thing looks rally nice, and a similar app for magazines would be equally awesome.
 
Anybody read this piece in the Times from a former MS VP, yet? There's a lot of dirt, but here are the tablet related nuggets:

Another example: When we were building the tablet PC in 2001, the vice president in charge of Office at the time decided he didn’t like the concept. The tablet required a stylus, and he much preferred keyboards to pens and thought our efforts doomed. To guarantee they were, he refused to modify the popular Office applications to work properly with the tablet. So if you wanted to enter a number into a spreadsheet or correct a word in an e-mail message, you had to write it in a special pop-up box, which then transferred the information to Office. Annoying, clumsy and slow.

So once again, even though our tablet had the enthusiastic support of top management and had cost hundreds of millions to develop, it was essentially allowed to be sabotaged. To this day, you still can’t use Office directly on a Tablet PC. And despite the certainty that an Apple tablet was coming this year, the tablet group at Microsoft was eliminated.

Wow. First I've heard that MS whacked the tablet group.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/opinion/04brass.html?pagewanted=all
 
Tobor said:
Anybody read this piece in the Times from a former MS VP, yet? There's a lot of dirt, but here are the tablet related nuggets:



Wow. First I've heard that MS whacked the tablet group.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/opinion/04brass.html?pagewanted=all

Been reading excerpts from his interview all day on a variety of sites. He doesn't pull any punches and doesn't have much good to say about the climate at MS. Hadn't noticed that they killed off their tablet line though. Seems odd. Bet they'll be scrambling to rebuild it soon, or do they just figure that touch is integrated into Windows 7 and it's up to the manufacturers to find a way to use it?
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Been reading excerpts from his interview all day on a variety of sites. He doesn't pull any punches and doesn't have much good to say about the climate at MS. Hadn't noticed that they killed off their tablet line though. Seems odd. Bet they'll be scrambling to rebuild it soon, or do they just figure that touch is integrated into Windows 7 and it's up to the manufacturers to find a way to use it?

I assume that's why, but man, that is a wrong headed decision.
 
Tobor said:
I assume that's why, but man, that is a wrong headed decision.

The emphasis will then fall on the OEM's to bolt on a UI that matches up with what Apple is probably going to be doing, and we all know how that usually ends up.
 
Anyone else prepping their media collections for this bad-boy? I'm trying to figure out how to rip my anime DVD collection into iTunes. Takes more time than I thought, since I need to:

Rip the DVD
Encode the DVD using HandBrake preserving chapter markers and soft subtitles (why burn them to the video if you don't have to, right?)
Convert the metadata to sort them as TV shows in iTunes

It's quite the "fun" little chore.
 
blu said:
and if my memory serves me right, ms whacked the team behind the surface interface last year.
WHAT?! The Surface interface was the first genuinely intuitive Microsoft product I've ever seen! It's like Ballmer hates talent or something.
 
Terrell said:
WHAT?! The Surface interface was the first genuinely intuitive Microsoft product I've ever seen! It's like Ballmer hates talent or something.
talent? what does that have to do with bottomline? last year was tough for many, so ms just axed a bunch of stuff an focused on their core business - pushing windows to OEMs.
 
Surface was cool technology at the time. Then the iphone was revealed and multitouch became standard.

But seriously, what exactly was Microsoft's plan other than "hey look at this neat tech"?
Did they really think they could get them in people's homes? Or were they just content with hotel lobbies?

I think the end of Steve Jobs' keynote was pretty telling. That Apple views itself as creating products that exist at the crossroad between technology and liberal arts.

They're not a single-mindedly tech focused company. As much as I love shiny things, I really respect their vision of using technology for a purpose.

User experience is EVERYTHING.
 
Juice said:
You mean the Slate group?

Or the Courier group?

Or the Zune touch group?

Or the Windows Phone 7 group doing touch?

Or Microsoft Research Labs touch library development?

Or the Microsoft Surface Team?

That's a lot of different groups to have all working on the same thing.
 
Blagh my urge to get one of these just increases the more time passes. Am I the only one feeling this way? :lol

If my Kindle didn't have an e-ink screen, I would actually be looking to get an iPad just for the reading potential. I used to read on my touch with Stanza, and have no doubt it will work great on a larger screen. I am going to def. give one a look once they come into my local Apple store. Honestly, if my eyes don't hurt from reading the thing, I may be honestly selling off my Kindle 2 in the b/s/t thread. :lol
 
Tobor said:
Anybody read this piece in the Times from a former MS VP, yet? There's a lot of dirt, but here are the tablet related nuggets:

Wow. First I've heard that MS whacked the tablet group.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/opinion/04brass.html?pagewanted=all
Urgh, that is just horrible to read. How the bigger teams literally bully smaller up-and-coming teams who are working on something new and exciting.

What a mess.
 
Reading over the Apple guidelines or tips to making iPad apps made me realize how amazing this thing can be for multiple person usage. Not just for games but for other uses as well.

I really, really hope there are a ton of awesome apps for this thing by late summer/fall.
 
I really need some sort of ebook reader. I'm hesitant to get the Kindle because I feel it's too expensive for what it does, and I don't really like the looks. Should I get the iPad? Any thoughts on what it would be reading a book on that screen? Obviously, eink is ideal, but how much of a trade off would an IPS screen be?
 
I wish that someone would start a service/app for webcomics that work along the same lines of Podcasts. Subscribe to it and the new data automatically downloads.

That would be cool.

There's an idea, potential developer. Charge $1. Profit.
 
Big Ass Ramp said:
Any thoughts on what it would be reading a book on that screen? Obviously, eink is ideal, but how much of a trade off would an IPS screen be?

It's not going to be different from using most other LCDs in terms of eye-strain. The viewing angles should be quite awesome however.
 
Raistlin said:
It's not going to be different from using most other LCDs in terms of eye-strain. The viewing angles should be quite awesome however.

Damnit, I know I should probably get the kindle. It's just the kindle is so ugly and uninspiring. The iPad could potentially be really great. I don't know what to do.
 
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