ThatStupidLion
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Assuming consoles have full BC do you think its too good to be true and that it will be locked behind some sort of paywall?
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Are you expecting next-gen BC to be free or come with a fee
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Hostile_18
Banned
If it was behind a paywall and it was disc based emulation that would open up all sort of legal trouble IMO.
HE1NZ
Banned
Current gen software will all be working on the next gen. Microsoft will keep bringing more OG and 360 titles the same way they do now and currently emulateable titles will all work on Scarlett. Sony will keep bringing PS1,2,3 titles to PSN. Maybe they'll unlock disc based PS1 emulation like they did on PS3, but I doubt it.
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Trogdor1123
Member
The ability will be free, the games obviously won't be.
Moogle11
Banned
I think it will be free. It seems like the trend is to do remasters/remakes as a way to sell games at full price. I think we'll continue to see that, but the X1 and PS4 games will just be free BC. A gen or two down the road we'll probably see remasters/remakes of some current gen hits.
Night.Ninja
Banned
Exactly how it is now
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reconminicon
Banned
Free. I never even contemplated anything other. If they do try and charge with the backlash will be immense. And deservedly so.
Elektro Demon
Banned
This.
Codes 208
Member
No. Why would it be behind some paywall? When has it ever been behind some paywall? I stick a (supported) 360 game into my X and it works, there’s no reason to change it that going forward and the only logical “paywall” is buying a copy of the game (or playing bc via a game service like gamepass.
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MacReady13
Member
I’m hoping like fuck it’s not like Nintendo are doing on the switch with their NES/SNES games. I want to be able to buy and “own” the retro games I play and not have them tied to a service.
And I’m also hoping it’s not like PSnow, not only because I don’t want to fucking stream ANY games, but we still haven’t gotten that shit here in Australia!
And I’m also hoping it’s not like PSnow, not only because I don’t want to fucking stream ANY games, but we still haven’t gotten that shit here in Australia!
Phunkydiabetic
Banned
Ah yes, I remember that sentiment being expressed about the then upcoming PS4 in regards to its online services...
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I expect it to be including in the cost of the console, back of the box feature
kingpotato
Ask me about my Stream Deck
Would there have to be any special hardware to be able to read all PlayStation discs? I might be misremembering, but I thought there was something different about the pre-bluray disc drives that was special... Or maybe it was just the discs themselves and it wouldn't be a big deal.
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nikolino840
Member
You have already payed the game
Darlingcognito
Member
Free and updates on xbox like there is now.
No chance in hell Sony won't monetize it.
No chance in hell Sony won't monetize it.
VertigoOA
Banned
We’re mostly expecting hardware emulation no? I would expect that to be free. Unless you’re Nintendo. Then you’ll have to buy that ROM of Super Metroid each time a new piece of hardware is bought, regardless of digital purchase.
It boggles my mind that Nintendo can’t figure out what snes9x and ZSNES has been doing since ... 1998.... for free... from someone’s basement.
It boggles my mind that Nintendo can’t figure out what snes9x and ZSNES has been doing since ... 1998.... for free... from someone’s basement.
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HE1NZ
Banned
Bluray disc drives read both CDs and DVDs.
Kagey K
Banned
You are going to be in a world of disappointment.
It‘s just not going to work like that. Licenses expire and some of those game companies aren’t around.
You are kidding yourself if you believe that’s actually how it will work.
Grinchy
Banned
Obviously not every game will be on the store. There are PS3 games available through PS Now already and there's nothing stopping them from being downloadable on a system that can already emulate the PS3 (which PS5 is rumored to do).
There are also PS2 games on the store you can buy right now for PS4, and PS1 games have been on the store for a long time. So sure, not every game, but there's no reason not to have the ones that they have gotten licenses for already along with any new ones that could crop up in the list.
It's also just a drive-by 1.3 second thought that I blurted out, so no one is kidding themselves about anything
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
I expect for Microsoft to make it like now, free when you have the game.
I could see Sony milk it behind psplus or something if they have it at all. It doesn't matter though, since Sony players won't play old games. At least I remember many people saying that when XO got announced bc.
I could see Sony milk it behind psplus or something if they have it at all. It doesn't matter though, since Sony players won't play old games. At least I remember many people saying that when XO got announced bc.
nikolino840
Member
Maybe consoles games uses different things...if you insert on a PC the optical drive can detect the disc?
Was the ps2 that uses black discs?
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
No disc compatibility, but you can buy digital versions of their back catalog (well the ones they can get publishing rights for)....or stream them as part of a customizable (read: tiered) monthly payment plan .
Kagey K
Banned
That would be an interesting nut to crack.Obviously not every game will be on the store. There are PS3 games available through PS Now already and there's nothing stopping them from being downloadable on a system that can already emulate the PS3 (which PS5 is rumored to do).
There are also PS2 games on the store you can buy right now for PS4, and PS1 games have been on the store for a long time. So sure, not every game, but there's no reason not to have the ones that they have gotten licenses for already along with any new ones that could crop up in the list.
It's also just a drive-by 1.3 second thought that I blurted out, so no one is kidding themselves about anything
Selling it again falls under different rules, Im actually very interested in seeing how this one shakes out.
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Alx
Member
For online you're paying for servers and bandwidth too. One can discuss the true cost of those, but there is one.
If we're talking BC, we're talking about running a game I already paid for, using electricity I'm already paying for and a feature of a console I paid for too. So there's no justification for an additional cost.
Now if it was third party software that allow for BC, like the Bleemcast of old, then you may argue that you're paying for the devs of the emulator. But if we're talking BC as a native feature of the console, then it should be included in the whole package.
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MasterDerico
Member
I want to put my disc and play. Other than that is BS.
Well, as i said in the other thread, i like to play games on their original hardware, and BC is a emergency case if one one if my old console die.
Well, as i said in the other thread, i like to play games on their original hardware, and BC is a emergency case if one one if my old console die.
MasterDerico
Member
I want to put my disc and play. Other than that is BS.
Well, as i said in the other thread, i like to play games on their original hardware, and BC is a emergency case if one of my old consoles die.
Well, as i said in the other thread, i like to play games on their original hardware, and BC is a emergency case if one of my old consoles die.
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Ellery
Member
Same. I expect PS4 BC for PS5 because they absolutely have to. Everything else would be a cherry on top.
And no they are not going to be able charge any fee for that, because people would eat them alive and once I put on my fingerless gloves my keyboard is going to burn with the hatred of a million words.
And no they are not going to be able charge any fee for that, because people would eat them alive and once I put on my fingerless gloves my keyboard is going to burn with the hatred of a million words.
Alx
Member
The cost of downloading your game is in the license you paid for the game. BC or not, when you purchase a digital game the price includes a right to download it again, as many times as you need.
Now that may not be true for old disc games that never existed digitally, but it would be a nightmare to explain that BC is free for digital games and paid for physical games. Especially since the common understanding of BC is "put your game in and play", having to download the game when you own the disc is already something on which you wouldn't want to put any focus.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
thing with online games is the server costs, with back compatible it should be free was its done on the console. free as long as you own the game
GreenAlien
Member
Only took 44 posts for me to figure out what BC means.
V2Tommy
Member
The PS4 didn’t have a CD-ROM laser at all.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
A gen or two down the road? I wouldn't be surprised if one was a next gen launch game.