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Are young Men really choosing games over relationships ?

Young gamers, where do you stand?

  • I'm a young gamer with a perfectly healthy dating life.

    Votes: 75 28.1%
  • Screw dating, I'm all about videogaming, Mountain Dew, and Doritos!

    Votes: 143 53.6%
  • I don't even really game bro; I'm a Giga-Chad!

    Votes: 49 18.4%

  • Total voters
    267
Meh. I play games every day and my house is a whorehouse. I'm 33 no plans on getting married or having kids. I'm not giving up my financial independence and freedom. I can do anything I want right now at the prime of my life. Times have changed - I'm not the only one my age who chooses to live like this.

Love it when people on a video game forum who play lots of games try to claim they are some sort of Adonis.

Almost as funny as all the people on Warhammer forums claiming to be commandos in the military or ex special forces.
 
Love it when people on a video game forum who play lots of games try to claim they are some sort of Adonis.
Well, he used the term "whorehouse" , so he might just be paying for the p-sleeve - no good looks required.
(I'm not being judgmental, by the way)
 
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The problem is that we've been taught and imprinted since childhood about what women want to hear. What no one tells you however that it's nothing but a pile of dog shit. Not even women want to hear what they think they want to hear. You are just reaffirming their views like a servant and gets you nowhere in the end.

Cliff notes: Female friend of my fuck buddy came to town to see her one evening. We are all in my apartment before going out to eat and I had noticed she was low-key thick sweater covering up a potentially solid rack. So I copped a cheeky feel saying "You raising some healthy sweater puppies there?" (to be sure it was not a padded bra) and got a playful "You're outrageous!" slap in return.

Yadda Yadda Yadda...

She came home with me at the end of the night and we fucked.
They were awesome tits.
 
You'd find them in the electronics markets, toy stores or pirate DVD shops back in the day. Now you'll find them in the bigger high street electrical retailers now that China lifted the console ban. But even then people preferred to play online PC games in the net cafes because of the low cost. Now it's mostly mobile gaming.

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What region is that? I was mostly in Guangzhou and there is literally nothing anywhere... the only talk of gaming was my brother in law who used a VPN to play on steam via PC, and he died really young and they all blame gaming.
 
What region is that? I was mostly in Guangzhou and there is literally nothing anywhere...

Dongguan, but I've also seen these stores selling games and stuff in Guangzhou. You're gonna have to take the L on this one that you didn't know where to look.

 
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Dongguan, but I've also seen these stores selling games and stuff in Guangzhou. You're gonna have to take the L on this one that you didn't know where to look.


Well my wife is my guide and we know how she feels about games...lol
I just remember the stark difference on public transportation, in the US i'd always see a kid with a gameboy and I just never witnessed that in China.
My Nephew comes to visit all he just rushes for the consoles because he doesn't have them at home.

Also maybe it's now vs then, my first major trip there of 2 months was about 15 years ago when I noted most of this, next trip was maybe 10 years ago.. my last trip was 2 years ago (but it was for my mother in laws funeral so we did little shopping or looking around)
 
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Men worked long hours and hung out with male friends but women didn't like that....
Quoted for being accurate. I remember my wife's friend would often complain about how often her husband drank, and how much time he spent at some bar where several of his friends would gather. A couple of times she was sure he was cheating. When my wife pointed to me saying, "Glad I don't have to deal with that, he just hangs out in the den playing his games."

Her friend said "Right there so you don't have to worry about him getting in trouble. Wish my husband was into games."

women would prefer that their partner have hobbies that coincide with their own, but that's often not the case. If they don't enjoy doing the same things, then women would vastly prefer a man who's hobby was gaming vs many others. You'd think a wife who isn't into cars, would prefer gaming vs their man spending god knows how much on his hotrod, spending his time out in the garage. The same goes for most hobbies. Gaming keeps the man at home, but not up her ass. Gaming costs nothing compared to most hobbies.

Yet I've seen wives complain about their husband playing an hour of CoD after dinner a few days a week...
 
Well my wife is my guide and we know how she feels about games...lol
I just remember the stark difference on public transportation, in the US i'd always see a kid with a gameboy and I just never witnessed that in China.
My Nephew comes to visit all he just rushes for the consoles because he doesn't have them at home.

Also maybe it's now vs then, my first major trip there of 2 months was about 15 years ago when I noted most of this, next trip was maybe 10 years ago.. my last trip was 2 years ago (but it was for my mother in laws funeral so we did little shopping or looking around)
Even 10 years ago consoles were illegal. The ban was actually part of the impetus for the PSTV, Sony billed it as a streaming box that just happened to be able to play games, rather than strictly a games console, which allowed them to get around the ban. You could find consoles if you knew where to look I'm sure, but you weren't going to find them in your average retailer.
 
Quoted for being accurate. I remember my wife's friend would often complain about how often her husband drank, and how much time he spent at some bar where several of his friends would gather. A couple of times she was sure he was cheating. When my wife pointed to me saying, "Glad I don't have to deal with that, he just hangs out in the den playing his games."

Her friend said "Right there so you don't have to worry about him getting in trouble. Wish my husband was into games."

women would prefer that their partner have hobbies that coincide with their own, but that's often not the case. If they don't enjoy doing the same things, then women would vastly prefer a man who's hobby was gaming vs many others. You'd think a wife who isn't into cars, would prefer gaming vs their man spending god knows how much on his hotrod, spending his time out in the garage. The same goes for most hobbies. Gaming keeps the man at home, but not up her ass. Gaming costs nothing compared to most hobbies.

Yet I've seen wives complain about their husband playing an hour of CoD after dinner a few days a week...

There is so much truth here!!! There are times I'm convinced my wife really truly hates my competitive fishing hobby even though it was the younger me with the truck and boat that probably played some small role in wooing her. I understand some part of the problem that a woman has with her husband being away for so many hours. It's not like men don't care either, because being away from home so much also leaves a lot of room for error.

On a significantly more distant note, there was one girl friend I had who hated all forms of games and said she found them worthless. Yet somehow she adored Donkey Kong Country. She would play it for a whole 20-minutes before deciding enough time had been wasted. Her whole life seemed to revolve around activities that actually produced something of use. It took me a while to realize it, but she had her sights set on me working nonstop. When I began fishing again during the later part of college is when the fit hit the shan and I pushed her on out of my life so I could come home from fishing feeling happy and content after a great day taking in nature and wilderness.

My wife is happier when I keep my butt planted on the couch in the living room playing games, but I sure as hell am not. Not to be misunderstood: I do like video games. I simply love the adventure that is bass fishing a whole lot more.
 
There are times I'm convinced my wife really truly hates my competitive fishing hobby even though it was the younger me with the truck and boat that probably played some small role in wooing her.
Women marry men hoping to change them.
Men marry women hoping that they won't change.
 
There is so much truth here!!! There are times I'm convinced my wife really truly hates my competitive fishing hobby even though it was the younger me with the truck and boat that probably played some small role in wooing her. I understand some part of the problem that a woman has with her husband being away for so many hours. It's not like men don't care either, because being away from home so much also leaves a lot of room for error.

On a significantly more distant note, there was one girl friend I had who hated all forms of games and said she found them worthless. Yet somehow she adored Donkey Kong Country. She would play it for a whole 20-minutes before deciding enough time had been wasted. Her whole life seemed to revolve around activities that actually produced something of use. It took me a while to realize it, but she had her sights set on me working nonstop. When I began fishing again during the later part of college is when the fit hit the shan and I pushed her on out of my life so I could come home from fishing feeling happy and content after a great day taking in nature and wilderness.

My wife is happier when I keep my butt planted on the couch in the living room playing games, but I sure as hell am not. Not to be misunderstood: I do like video games. I simply love the adventure that is bass fishing a whole lot more.
I think I have the perfect solution that ought to keep you both happy...

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Men are being told that being men is evil. Fathers are evil and the patriarchy is evil.

Note how this question is "relationships" and not "starting a family". Women are infantilized as well by feminism. No families for you ladies, don't you know that is the patriarchy? Thust most women are not looking for anything serious just "relationships". Dating. Nothing that lasts. Feminism has convinced them motherhood is a terrible burden and the only joy in life is in casual sex. So they regress to the same behavior they had when they were in their 20s. It's basically an excuse to avoid adulthood.

Both men and women are underserved by feminism, which has robbed them both of their natural roles as father and mother.

Women regress by dating and drinking, men regress by video games and weed. The adult path to starting and raising a family has been denied to us, our corporate masters have decided.

When you are raised by a society that tells you you are the source of the world's problems then it is no surprise men want to find solace in escapism.
 
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Where is the Problem? Your reply indicates some frustration and disbelief.

He explained it like this: You pick tinder or similar dating app, pimp your profile and swipe all available woman as a like. Once you get a match you select the once you like. You schedule 2 dates per evening in case the first isn't your case as a back up. If it is, you cancel the 2nd date.
You have to keep track of the items discussed, he made a simply excel tracking sheet, otherwise you can confused to soon.

With this approach you have plenty of spare days to relax within a year.
 
How the fuck do you date 300 women in 365 days? That seems really really dumb - you mean he fucked 300 women? Either way that's some try hard shit

No, most of them he even didn't kiss, just a personnel meeting in a nice setting (bar, restaurant). It's not healthy, but he was sick of investing in relations without having a broader base to compare what's normal.
So he got into those dating apps and played it to the extremes. I didn't say it was a successful approach, in the end his conclusion was that some woman's expectations on men are way out of proportion compared to what some have to offer.

Might apply to men as well, I'm not an expert and just lucky that I'm settled.
 
Well tbh the state of young men and women these days I'd be surprised if the fuckwits havent irrepreably damaged the human race going forward, not that I give a shit if the purple haired fuckers with their hentai pillows remain locked in basements playing anime dating games, as long as I don't have to queue behind them when the bars reopen its all good
 
No, most of them he even didn't kiss, just a personnel meeting in a nice setting (bar, restaurant). It's not healthy, but he was sick of investing in relations without having a broader base to compare what's normal.
So he got into those dating apps and played it to the extremes. I didn't say it was a successful approach, in the end his conclusion was that some woman's expectations on men are way out of proportion compared to what some have to offer.

Might apply to men as well, I'm not an expert and just lucky that I'm settled.
Definitely applies to men as well - the dating apps always lead to mostly bad matches anyway.
 
You can date and get married and still play video games. When you have kids then it becomes way more difficult because then all your time is dedicated to the kids.
 
So i've seen other people's replies and feel alright posting now.

i'm 25, i guess my reasons for turning to video games was i had a few bad experiences and stuff didn't work out. i took time off to just enjoy my own company and naturally i did something i enjoyed which was play games after work instead of chasing women. now it's been a few years and i kinda don't know how to get back out there and since taking time off from dating has made me more nervous and have low self esteem so of course that doesn't help the situation.

i've tried tinder and i still have it but it just seems like such a chore. the conversations never last long or i just see so many unrealistic expectations from women, that it just makes me not want to try. i even feel like now days i can't even hold a decent conversation myself to be honest.

i don't have social media either so i don't meet new connections on there, my job is working in the construction industry so i don't meet anyone at work. anyway i think i'm rambling so will leave it there.
 
So i've seen other people's replies and feel alright posting now.

i'm 25, i guess my reasons for turning to video games was i had a few bad experiences and stuff didn't work out. i took time off to just enjoy my own company and naturally i did something i enjoyed which was play games after work instead of chasing women. now it's been a few years and i kinda don't know how to get back out there and since taking time off from dating has made me more nervous and have low self esteem so of course that doesn't help the situation.

i've tried tinder and i still have it but it just seems like such a chore. the conversations never last long or i just see so many unrealistic expectations from women, that it just makes me not want to try. i even feel like now days i can't even hold a decent conversation myself to be honest.

i don't have social media either so i don't meet new connections on there, my job is working in the construction industry so i don't meet anyone at work. anyway i think i'm rambling so will leave it there.

When things open up, just go to a bar and relax, go with the flow and talk to a chic you might be interested in. You dont need social media and apps for anything.

By the way this is so funny :pie_roffles::pie_roffles::pie_gsquint::
 
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So i've seen other people's replies and feel alright posting now.

i'm 25, i guess my reasons for turning to video games was i had a few bad experiences and stuff didn't work out. i took time off to just enjoy my own company and naturally i did something i enjoyed which was play games after work instead of chasing women. now it's been a few years and i kinda don't know how to get back out there and since taking time off from dating has made me more nervous and have low self esteem so of course that doesn't help the situation.

i've tried tinder and i still have it but it just seems like such a chore. the conversations never last long or i just see so many unrealistic expectations from women, that it just makes me not want to try. i even feel like now days i can't even hold a decent conversation myself to be honest.

i don't have social media either so i don't meet new connections on there, my job is working in the construction industry so i don't meet anyone at work. anyway i think i'm rambling so will leave it there.
Thats a sad (sounding) story of compounding self doubt. Believe it or not, all you have to do to "get back out there" is talk to people. Seriously, its that simple. Talk to the person that checks you our at the store, talk to people where ever you are. No you dont need to be a weirdo who just walks up to random people and start sharing personal details. But if you are in the cracker aisle at the grocer and you see an attractive person also shopping for crackers, say something to them. "Hey have you tried the blah blah variant? They are delicious" or some such will work wonders. I have landed MANY dates at the grocery store, FACT! Same with the gym or bookstore. So much better meeting people who you actually interact with in your normal life. And remember if someone looks good at the the store they would be real bombshell if dolled up for a club.

Dating apps are not the way to go IMO. Its similar to picking people up at bars/clubs. Its a high risk game filled with people who are desperate, predatory or worse hipsters. Women are looking for rich hunks and men are looking for pretty sluts.... not the recipe for a good relationship.

Anyway GLHF!
 
When things open up, just go to a bar and relax, go with the flow and talk to a chic you might be interested in. You dont need social media and apps for anything.

By the way this is so funny :pie_roffles::pie_roffles::pie_gsquint::

yeah i'll give it a go once places open back up, need to work on a bit of self confidence first i think.
Thats a sad (sounding) story of compounding self doubt. Believe it or not, all you have to do to "get back out there" is talk to people. Seriously, its that simple. Talk to the person that checks you our at the store, talk to people where ever you are. No you dont need to be a weirdo who just walks up to random people and start sharing personal details. But if you are in the cracker aisle at the grocer and you see an attractive person also shopping for crackers, say something to them. "Hey have you tried the blah blah variant? They are delicious" or some such will work wonders. I have landed MANY dates at the grocery store, FACT! Same with the gym or bookstore. So much better meeting people who you actually interact with in your normal life. And remember if someone looks good at the the store they would be real bombshell if dolled up for a club.

Dating apps are not the way to go IMO. Its similar to picking people up at bars/clubs. Its a high risk game filled with people who are desperate, predatory or worse hipsters. Women are looking for rich hunks and men are looking for pretty sluts.... not the recipe for a good relationship.

Anyway GLHF!
i did used to do stuff like talking to people at the store and gym but never really had anything come out of it so gave up. maybe it's just people i've spoken to but yeah. & yeah i know they are terrible, i should of said i barely use tinder now but every now and then i might open it up for a few minutes and realise why i don't use it anymore haha.
 
This thread is wild.
I'm an older millennial, who has lived in a small town for most of my life, so I'm not gonna judge people growing up in this social media world. I can only image how different and probably more stressful relationships are for some of you.

Personally, I don't feel like the world is trying to, nor has, emasculated me in anyway. I don't find women of my generation to be super entitled really. I don't feel like the gender identity movement is threatening at all. I feel secure in my masculinity but also not pressured to act anyway I'm not comfortable with, one way or the other.
That said, relationships are hard. I've found some to be worth the effort and others not so much. But some of the opinions on this thread are pretty fucking extreme.
 
The battle is about competing reproductive strategies.

Woman's strategy comes at the cost of males', and vice versa. Men are currently losing really hard, but the internet allows for truthbombs to be dropped, tilting the balance.

Men in the west traditionally have been kept clueless, because religion does not take away choice anymore. So the imperative is to fool the other gender, which you see women do, constant shaming, lying, distorting. Anything to control male behaviour.

This is what feminism is actually doing, take reproductive control away from men. I mean, look around you, who is benefiting from the laws? Surely not the men that lose at least half their wealth in divorce, or don't have access to their kids after divorce.

Redpill yourself, don't believe in this 'love' bullshit, there is no 'the one', don't 'win your way back into her heart', there is no pedestal to place any pussy. There is only you living your life, and women trying to attach themselves to you, or not.
 
Anyone ever see the movie Groundhog day? Imagine that movie with a woman in Bill Murrays position and wonder how different it would go.
If she was to get into a good relationship to escape from living the same day over and over again.
She would only have one day to change the guy into here dream guy that meets all her standards.
I'm not sure if she would ever escape. The standards would have to be lowered before she could even start working on changing herself to get the guy to fall for her.
 
Gamings addictive nature and the way it hijacks certain reward circuits is def gonna affect some men so I'm not surprised .
 
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Definitely applies to men as well - the dating apps always lead to mostly bad matches anyway.
Speaking off, there is this one app where women do the first step. I haven't tried it out, but perhaps it's something if you're really shy, etc.
 
Get real, women don't actually want shy men. These apps serve to give women what they want from those they don't fuck: free attention.
Probably true, at least if you don't look like a God, but perhaps it could be a possibility to make you more secure because afaik you have video chats and that is better than plain text imo.
 
Man GAF doesn't seem to like women. Is this a PC forum now? Jk.

Married but still have more than enough time for gaming. She watches her shows while me and my son game it up. I would admit that if I was single, games would keep me content. I have buddies that don't even want to work anymore. Fake hurt or sick just so they can play games at home. Covid is good for them and their schemes. That's part of the reason gaming sorta has a bad look. They can consume you. It's not a healthy lifestyle IMO. People need to balance that life.
 
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I think it has significantly more to do with easily available, free pornography than anything gaming related. After the porn itch is scratched, there's less instant need to seek out something more in a relationship, and oh look new AAA game jsut came out.
 
I am happily married and I am a gamer. The thing is that I never changed myself for a woman and my mentality was take it or leave it. More men need to have that don't settle mentality that woman have. I am not talking about demanding perfection but make sure she is worth the effort.
Exactly this! I'm not going to give up my hobbies for someone, and if they love you then they shouldn't want you to give up your hobbies. This goes both ways. If someone is constantly trying to change me, then they don't love me, they love some idealized version of me that doesn't exist. I am super glad my wife understands my gaming hobby, even if she herself is not interested. On the other hand I will never be interested in following Asian celebrity news like she is. To each their own!

On the other hand, don't expect to attract the women/men you like if you yourself are not attractive (I don't just mean physically). If you are having a hard time attracting someone then work on yourself. Real self confidence is very attractive. The other thing is to find some hobbies in common. My wife and I enjoy travel and exploration, politics, and cooking together. If we didn't have some of those topics or hobbies to do together our marriage would be insanely dull, and probably would have ended long ago.
 
True that.

That man wouldn't be sat at home in his sweaty boxers typing on a video game forum about how much pussy he slays.

Men like that don't talk, they do...
That's pretty true. Every time someone has bragged to me about scoring a total hottie it seems like they are only telling 50% of the truth max. The ones who are truly getting lucky usually you have to coax details out of them.
 
I think it has significantly more to do with easily available, free pornography than anything gaming related. After the porn itch is scratched, there's less instant need to seek out something more in a relationship, and oh look new AAA game jsut came out.
Yeah definately the cheapest route to go.. You can easily spend $60-$70 on a two hour date where you end up just going home to rub one out anyway.

Who needs anything else..
 
Man GAF doesn't seem to like women. Is this a PC forum now? Jk.

Married but still have more than enough time for gaming. She watches her shows while me and my son game it up. I would admit that if I was single, games would keep me content. I have buddies that don't even want to work anymore. Fake hurt or sick just so they can play games at home. Covid is good for them and their schemes. That's part of the reason gaming sorta has a bad look. They can consume you. It's not a healthy lifestyle IMO. People need to balance that life.
Any hobby can consume you if you let it.
 
I didn't watch the video but I can tell from my experience. Last year my ex moved out after 6 years together. Before her I had a relationship with another person for 4 years. I've played games my whole life and I have never felt it affected my ability to hook up or hold a relationship with someone. While it's true that you get less gaming time, if you need more than 10 hours a week of games it might be difficult to have a partner. I will say that I'm not interested in having another serious relationship right now and that has transformed in more time for me. I decided to get another degree, do excercise and play games. From time to time I get to have sex too but I had 3 or 4 months periods last year where I didn't get any and I felt OK.

Some people might chose games over people but I think it has little to do with games and more with people. If it wasn't games it would be playing guitar, fishing, or whatever.

What has changed is people getting married and having kids and this is due to several reasons: women being able to be independent, people assuming "grown up" roles later in life, economics, etc. This is not a bad thing. I feel before people got married because they didn't feel they had a choice. Now people don't care that much. Religious values go in a steady decline too. People really don't feel the pressure to have kids young or at all.

Dating is hard but it is also rewarding. People preferring to play games is OK too. Humanity is not going to end because 10% of the population decides not to reproduce.
 
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