kyussman
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First announced game...not difficut to understand what I said.
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Arkane: Redfall Playtest Image leaks
- Thread starter Craig of War
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kyussman
Member
Ha,ha...that's the exact look I had on my face when they announced their new game would be a co-op shooter.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Anyone who can't see this is early work is obviously just trolling. You're literally seeing weapon tiers over the crates in the image below. You are seeing "misc gear" over another and "named weapon" over another. Next you're seeing "loot zoo" then you're seeing hazard UV, Hazard Death Mist, Hazard Fire, Hazard Ravens, Hazard Electric. Is it too hard to ask some to use their common sense here? In other pictures you actually see scripting markers for things like enemy spawning, population spawning and god knows what else.
All of this should tell any calm and reasonable person that everything shown is very early work, but we aren't dealing with calm or reasonable people are we? (see what I did there?
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All of this should tell any calm and reasonable person that everything shown is very early work, but we aren't dealing with calm or reasonable people are we? (see what I did there?
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on a positive note, I like the tiers and there seems to be plenty of hazards for the player to encounter (probably more not shown, too?)Anyone who can't see this is early work is obviously just trolling. You're literally seeing weapon tiers over the crates in the image below. You are seeing "misc gear" over another and "named weapon" over another. Next you're seeing "loot zoo" then you're seeing hazard UV, Hazard Death Mist, Hazard Fire, Hazard Ravens, Hazard Electric. Is it too hard to ask some to use their common sense here? In other pictures you actually see scripting markers for things like enemy spawning, population spawning and god knows what else.
All of this should tell any calm and reasonable person that everything shown is very early work, but we aren't dealing with calm or reasonable people are we? (see what I did there?
UI looks nice and simple, but stylish and readible. And the gun/hand looks clean with the Arkane style.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Craig found love!DEAD
Though honestly, the creativity of some meme-creators just astounds me sometimes. The things they think of. Marvelous!
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
The playable characters definetly need work.
Decontamination Silo
Banned
Fortnite meets The Division
You never said ‘announced’.
And Redfall’s been in development since 2017. Well before Microsoft bought them.
Nothing worse than seeing amateurish attempts at console warring. First time?
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
I love people are writing this off as bad despite Arkane having a great record. This game will be a blast I’m sure. At least you don’t have to play 70$ to try it out.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
It seems only some big SP franchises (solely SP or the main mode is SP) are giant sellers. Although successful indie games can be anything.
The trend for success starting from the 360/PS3 gen was tack on MP. Now it's MP, but with that party mode/hipster angle to it where each character is more of a woke-ish diversity (heavy into style and attitude), vs. the traditional spy, soldier, heavy class based diversity.
Arkane finally game up on the SP game (even though they got good reviews) because there's more hype and money with a MP coop party game. And no doubt it'll be jam packed with mtx.
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CheeseCake
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I love how people are saying we are still 11 months away from release but are forgetting 341i had an entire year to polish Halo Infinite and it's already gonna lack coop and forge at launch...
Also, did anyone else notice the little microtransaction shop?
Also, did anyone else notice the little microtransaction shop?
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Jdroop
Member
It’s 2 different studios tho…I love how people are saying we are still 11 months away from release but are forgetting 341i had an entire year to polish Halo Infinite and it's already gonna lack coop and forge at launch...
Also, did anyone else notice the little microtransaction shop?
CheeseCake
Member
Remember cyberpunk? Any studio can fuck up.
Anyway, I'll reserve judgment until we get a better look at it but not keeping my hopes up. Deathloop isn't that visually good either.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Halo Infinite is 2-3 games put together of this size.
Just it's campaign co-op will be the size of this game.
There is a reason why 343i fuck up everytime.
Just look at the amount of things to do in Halo 5. It's like 3-4 games stitched together.
Just it's campaign co-op will be the size of this game.
There is a reason why 343i fuck up everytime.
Just look at the amount of things to do in Halo 5. It's like 3-4 games stitched together.
I love how people are saying we are still 11 months away from release but are forgetting 341i had an entire year to polish Halo Infinite and it's already gonna lack coop and forge at launch...
Also, did anyone else notice the little microtransaction shop?
Award winning director Cory Barlog: “games are usually UGLY until close to release. That’s how development works”
You: “Hurr, durr game developers must waste time needlessly polishing up slices for play tests! Visuals are the most important thing when testing gameplay mechanics”
I think I’ll go with Barlog on this one
Did you also post this sage opinion in the Ragnarok thread?
PlayedStation
Member
This game is gonna be a big deal next year. I see a lot of fantastic co-op fun on the horizon. We'll see in due time.
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DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy
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I think Arkane Should stick to a single player games. Kinda surprised MS didn’t have them as the devs behind the new Perfect Dark (cyberpunk espionage seems like a good fit for them), but maybe they were too busy already.
abacab driver
Banned
Well judging by the reviews, I'm positive Arkane will be just fine.
Redfall will most likely turn out even better next summer.
Stuart360
Member
Perfect Dark was in devlopmet look before Zenimax was bought.
Plus we have yet to see anything rom PD, it could end up an amazing game for all we know. Plus i'm not super keen on Acanes art style to be honest.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Well judging by the reviews, I'm positive Arkane will be just fine.
Redfall will most likely turn out even better next summer.
Still not sure, myself. A few of the folks who I trust/respect have given it some high praise so I am definitely excited about that.
I will remain a healthy level of skepticism on their future releases.
ResilientBanana
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Arkane proves themselves over and over yet people here are asking them to prove themselves after Dark Messiah, Dishonored, Dishonored 2, Prey, and now a new hit, Deathloop. Fuck off.
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I think the hate is starting to quiet down a bit since people saw Deathloop's scores. Another game that seemed to be triggering people everytime it was mentioned or shown.
Microsoft doesn't buy these guys and I'm sure they are mentioned among the top dev studios of the moment.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
That is a disingenuous way to look at it. Most people were critical because of the poor marketing and trailers - something even a number of critics/reviewers noted (such as Gmanlives and ACG). People see the reviews and finally get an understanding of what this game was.
Silent Viper
Banned
People jumping to conclusion based on leak without any confirmation by devs. Smh.
Arkane proven themselves as solid developers. So these salty ps fanboys hating them just coz they own by MS now. Thats the only reason ,these people are not real gamers
Arkane proven themselves as solid developers. So these salty ps fanboys hating them just coz they own by MS now. Thats the only reason ,these people are not real gamers
Silent Viper
Banned
What were you thinking before typing all that diarrhoea here?
Windows central assuming its alpha but no official confirmation of how old build is? Why so quick to jump to conclusion and post so much nonsense
Silent Viper
Banned
You know how game development work? You know how many people working on game?
You 100% sure about how old build is?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
- Since you only addressed my 4th point, you agreed with my first three points? Good.
- Now, regarding the "old build", why are you assuming it's an old build? The leaker said that they tested the build "today" and then leaked everything a couple of hours later. Now what makes more sense: to have testers test an old build that is no longer relevant or to bring in testers to have them test the latest build? It's obviously the latest build.
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Even before the reviews alot of it was FUD. This game will at worst considering arkanes track record be a 75/100 and at best a 90...plus its a GAAS that can be played solo but has a 30 million user base (more?) because its going to be on gamepass...no matter how you slice it its going to be a massive game next year. It has sea of thieves reach with a far more mass appeal premise and gameplay loop.
Silent Viper
Banned
RedFall was in development before Acquisition. MS not forcing them. Arkane wants to make this game.Having said that, as I mentioned in another comment, I'm not that worried about the graphics as they will improve for sure. My biggest complaints remain the direction of the game and whether it's the best use of Arkane's talent. These guys made such a unique game like Prey. Now they are working on a very generic-looking looter-shooter. I wish they were doing something like Dishonored, Prey, or Deathloop.
- Since you only addressed my 4th point, you agreed with my first three points? Good.
- Now, regarding the "old build", why are you assuming it's an old build? The leaker said that they tested the build "today" and then leaked everything a couple of hours later. Now what makes more sense: to have testers test an old build that is no longer relevant or to bring in testers to have them test the latest build? It's obviously the latest build.
Harvey Smith team working on different IP and other team making Redfall. They want to try different stuff and not locked to one style of games. They are versatile devs.
They have not made a bad game. Only bad project they worked or collaborated on was Young Blood but games they made on their own fully as studio were really good.
Dont judge book by its cover. Read damn thing.
Silent Viper
Banned
Valve was criticized when they revealed L4D instead of making Half Life. And look what happened. L4D ended up as legendary franchise.
So judge when game is out
So judge when game is out
bender
What time is it?
And then they stopped making them. And then we got Evolved. And now Back 4 Blood. Moral of the Story: Fuck Valve.
It's too early to say the game is a "very generic-looking looter shooter". Let's wait for a gameplay trailer first, but I doubt it will be generic.Having said that, as I mentioned in another comment, I'm not that worried about the graphics as they will improve for sure. My biggest complaints remain the direction of the game and whether it's the best use of Arkane's talent. These guys made such a unique game like Prey. Now they are working on a very generic-looking looter-shooter. I wish they were doing something like Dishonored, Prey, or Deathloop.
- Since you only addressed my 4th point, you agreed with my first three points? Good.
- Now, regarding the "old build", why are you assuming it's an old build? The leaker said that they tested the build "today" and then leaked everything a couple of hours later. Now what makes more sense: to have testers test an old build that is no longer relevant or to bring in testers to have them test the latest build? It's obviously the latest build.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I hope it's not.
It's just that no one does immersive sim action games anymore. SE did it with Deus Ex, and that IP is almost dead at this stage. Arkane was the best at this. I don't want them to abandon this genre.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
FYI -- Never said that MS is forcing them to make this game.
It wasn’t the marketing or trailer that people were critical of but the game itself. People weren’t saying that they were lacking an understanding for what it was. They were outright calling it garbage/deathpoop and that only stopped when an underwhelming number of reviews assessed it to be a superior game.
All I’m saying is being an MS studio had a lot to do with the willingness to ignore Arkane’s track record when judging an unreleased game. The same goes for Redfall.
If you could get your facts straight before calling me disingenuous that would be great.
Silent Viper
Banned
Back 4 blood and Evolve not made by valve. My point was just coz one studio makes certain type games that doesn't mean they cant make other type of games.
You all just want SP games as most of you all either suck at multiplayer or got no social life.
Some of us who live healthy social life dont mind coop games to play with friends, we not loners like some of people on forum who just want Solo story games.
Moment you guys see a single player game studio makes coop or multiplayer type of games you all start bashing it. What's wrong if Arkane wants to make Borderlands type game?. Smh. Attitude of some of the people here is so stupid that it pisses me off. Game not even out and you all grab pitchforks
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Silent Viper
Banned
YOU said waste of their talent. Ignoring the fact Arkane themselves wants to make it. No one from outside told them to make coop action game
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Bruh, you're projecting and assuming things I never said. Please quote me where I said that MS is forcing Arkane to make this game. I will be waiting.
abacab driver
Banned
Arkanes strength is (not 'was') that they make great games, period.
And just by your wording ("Is this the best use of Arkane" instead of "Is this the best decision from Arkane"), it's clear you're insinuating MS is forcing them to make a 'generic looter shooter'.
Redfall didn't just start development after the Zenimax acquisition.
Arkane literally JUST dropped Deathloop today. At the time of your post I'm responding to (and I bet even now), you had not even touched the game..yet you'd rather the Austin team made 'something like Deathloop'? Whoa buddy..how about you go and see if you even enjoy Deathloop first.
You supposedly feel like the Austin team is talented, but you won't give them the benefit of the doubt for seeing that there are no open world co-op shooters with their signature gameplay mechanics (and decided to take a shot at it)?
Doubt if you want to..
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
I do have my facts straight. We literally have dozens of threads about Deathloop discussing it since its initial reveal where on GAF that prove *exactly* what I stated.
Project less, kiddo.
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