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Assassin's Creed reaches 2.5 million sold, 5 mill expected. Other stuff delayed
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Agent Icebeezy
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Concept17 said:
As far as selling points, I think all of that comes before the gameplay in this case. My best friend was always telling me whenever he looked at Altair, he just looked like a badass and the graphics were hot. The setting is different and then the marketing was easily the best since Gears of War's campaign. There wasn't a demo and UBI was being so hush-hush with it so people had to take all of that into account before they even got their hands of the game. For the record, I like the gameplay. Could be fleshed out more, but I like what was there.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Speevy said:
The only games that deserve to sell:
1.Orange Box
2.Uncharted
3.Cod4
4.Mass Effect
5.SMG
6.Zack and Wiki
7.R&C
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Mrbob said:
AltogetherAndrews
Member
kbear said:
If you're going to openly doubt something you're going to have to provide something more than your gut feeling about things. I played it, and I would have probably enjoyed at least the climbing and combat if it wasn't contained in a such a shoddy design. And what makes it fucking terrible is that so many of the issues are traditional Ubi issues; wonky A.I. (who knew that the touchiest guards in history also had the absolutely worst sense of situational awareness?), grating voice repetition, poor performance. Add the stupidest idea of "interactive" (and unskippable!) cutscenes and you have some decent concepts running on a broken foundation. And it's all stuff that a developer like Ubi should be on top of, but as usual it doesn't fucking matter because the marketing is good enough to make sure that the game sells, quality be damned. I certainly hope whoever was in charge of marketing gets a big fat bonus this year.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
BruceLeeRoy said:
What in the dang?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
X26 said:
Thats a odd response do you take specific issue with one in particular.
Mass Effect is at least selling really well too right?
AltogetherAndrews
Member
Dr_Cogent said:
In yo face AltogetherAndrews!!!
In yo face quality, you mean. But by all means, keep delivering those blows. For mediocrity, united we stand!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Speevy said:
I didnt put Bshock simply cause I know it did sell really well.
X26 said:
Im just saying since I didnt like the game it would have been nice to see some titles that just didnt have the same type of marketing push to be successful hits as well.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Mrbob said:mckmas are you trying to help my point?
I remember the release of Warrior Within, the rage incited on GAF alone was amazing.
But that game really wasn't that bad. GAF cried like little girls of course because it was too dark.
Agent Icebeezy said:
As selling points I agree. But showing how you could assassinate someone as being something you actually do yourself, was in fact, a major selling point.
I don't think people should expect a demo for every game, especially potential AAA titles. This goes into the whole demo vs sales debate, but putting a demo of a sandbox game is a very bad, bad idea. Not to mention the beginning of AC (the part that throws most people off) is very slow, and throwing someone into the middle of the city without having known any of the story, would have been a poor presentation.
Games with a lot of depth/story that have demos should give people an introduction to the story. AC's greatest weakness imo was the beginning, simply because people wanted to hurry up and play everything that was promised, but had to be dragged through some story first.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
bud said:
Yeah its a great commercial you can definitely see Gears playing a part in the marketing meeting for that.
Assassin's Creed is one of those games that serious gamers should play, but it is ultimately a failure in execution. Hence why everyone's crying for a sequel. Even its greatest proponents know that the game's reach exceeded its grasp by a long shot.
So what are we discussing? You want mastery of concept? Play Super Mario Galaxy or something else.
So what are we discussing? You want mastery of concept? Play Super Mario Galaxy or something else.
Agent Icebeezy
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Concept17 said:
Saint's Row had a demo last year and it has sold over 1 million. I think that a demo is a great thing, if you have a great game.
Kobun Heat
Member
So who in here is arguing that sales = quality? I'm taking notes for later.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
AltogetherAndrews said:
The 360 version holds 30 just fine. The game runs circles around every open world game sans Crackdown, looks better than all of them as well.
Why would anyone want to skip a cutscene containing vital information (of which all of them do towards the plot)? Unless you were rushing through to try and beat it as fast as possible, revisiting for achievements, or just replaying it for fun (which would imply that you liked the game), it makes absolutely zero sense to skip any of the cutscenes.
The marketing was great, yes. But people can't go home and play marketing. Obviously the game is doing something right for people to still be talking about it nearly a month after release, and to have garnered several great reviews (despite anyones opinion on 'lol moneyhats').
I really hope you're not implying that Ubi Montreal's previous successes (Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia) were well regarded purely because of hype and marketing.
AltogetherAndrews said:
I agree the AI could be improved. In this sense the game becomes too easy. This is its only real flaw imo, but it doesn't make it a bad game. The rest of your issues are very minimal and are all very common in 90% of games out there, especially the 2m+ sellers list. Also, giving the only credit to marketing is stupid. The devs have delivered an amazing game, a game they took a ton of risk with and succeeded.
And DECENT concepts? Really? Whats a 'good' concept to you? You are way too damn picky to be playing games. Go be a movie critic, it would suit you better.
jordan0386
Member
v1cious said:
moneyhat, clearly
fatigues_gasolini
Member
The more and more I watch my brother play this on 360, the more I want to get it. Have the PS3 issues been ironed out?
Francias Castiglione
Banned
Good stuff, looking forward to seeing where they set the sequel.
TuSeiSkeefoso
Member
Great. Hopefully AC2 will be even more repetitive than the first one. J/K, I'm looking forward to a sequel as the setting is great. Still not worthy of that many sales considering it's many flaws, but, great for Ubisoft.
