They explicitly say that this isn't Megaten or Persona.
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Atlus announces Studio Zero - Hashino and Soejima on brand new Fantasy RPG
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They explicitly say that this isn't Megaten or Persona.
I don't expect this game anytime soon.
Frozenprince
Banned
The more I think about this, the more unhappy I am they are going in this direction. And I'm not even a big Persona, but P5 is my GoTY 2016. Feel bittersweet now, like when Kaneko stepped off the stage, Suda51 stopped directing, and Team Silent stopped making Silent Hill
Hashino isn't being poached by another company. The Persona team is still there and it's own thing, P-Studios isn't being dissolved.
Nothing about what made Persona 5 is leaving the company. At least not in regards to this announcement.
The more I think about this, the more unhappy I am they are going in this direction. And I'm not even a big Persona, but P5 is my GoTY 2016. Feel bittersweet now, like when Kaneko stepped off the stage, Suda51 stopped directing, and Team Silent stopped making Silent Hill
It's not like Hashino will not make any more Persona games. Next Persona games will probably be P5 Crimson or whatever name they use, and countless spinoffs of P5. He can still supervise and work on those titles at the same time.
Lionel Richie
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GODDAMN YES, great news!
The more I think about this, the more unhappy I am they are going in this direction. And I'm not even a big Persona, but P5 is my GoTY 2016. Feel bittersweet now, like when Kaneko stepped off the stage, Suda51 stopped directing, and Team Silent stopped making Silent Hill
This will happen, but this is the best team currently at Atlus and Hashino is the best director and he gets Megaten so much that I want him on Megaten.
It's going to be okay, Bebpo. It's not like he's never going to make another Persona or Megaten game.
Frozenprince
Banned
Me neither, but I like being optimistic lol.
All indications to me point to this actually being one of their more higher-budget console games rather than a mobile or handheld game. Interested to see where this goes. Hopefully, it comes out before Cyberpunk.
A new IP definitely helps in getting some more creative freedom and not stagnating from working on the same thing. The latter's personally why I figure a lot of staff start to leave the Mass Effect/Dragon Age teams.
There was apparently talk of one of the original concepts of P5 being a backpacking story around the world. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if that concept would have been scrapped even without wanting to reel the focus back on Japan after the 2011 earthquake/tsunami.
A new IP definitely helps in getting some more creative freedom and not stagnating from working on the same thing. The latter's personally why I figure a lot of staff start to leave the Mass Effect/Dragon Age teams.
And they could probably have made so much more after that if they didn't have to work on P5.
Frozenprince
Banned
Yep, they're on the verge of being the next "Big" thing, just put your best minds on a good team and let them do what they want. Don't be trapped by your current branding and brand audience to prevent you from branching out creatively.
The market is open for more high quality JRPG's. Take a break from the Persona brand for a while, refresh your image, put more product out and get more mindshare.
the_sun_king
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Yes. Catherine was their experimental test to see if the team could make an HD game, though.
Let's not ignore that they had to build their own engine, rebuild all the demon assets from scratch on said new engine, their old parent company went bankrupt, etc, etc..
To be fair, though, that was still P Studio. If Hashino is becoming top dog of Studio Zero, it'd naturally mean less time for P Studio. We'll see how that manifests moving forward.
ActStriker
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Let's do this.
Paper Sparrow
Member
Persona 5 hasn't even come out here yet, you can't tease me with a new IP! Darn you Atlus!
Frozenprince
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It's not like Atlus is so utterly bereft of creatives they could get or poach from someone to put on P Studios to direct a new game, either. There is plenty of talent.
"P Studio" didn't really formally exist at the time, though. I suspect corporate and team structures at Atlus are a lot more fluid than that implies, as it is at most big developers.
Immaculate
Banned
oh shit
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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Whoa, fantasy? Will be very interesting to see how the writing/characterization is handled given how the team's pretty much worked exclusively on contemporary settings.
KingdomHeartsFan
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You have my attention.
Chie Satonaka
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Ah. Yeah, I've heard of Hoshigami. I never played it, but a friend of mine at the time talked about it all the time.
encephalon
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Please be more than generic fantasy. Exciting regardless, though.
freeofgreed
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I'm hoping it's not just pure fantasy and that there's a twist to it like SMT4
Frozenprince
Banned
I hope the opposite.
I'm tired of the twists and shit, I just want a neat story told with these guys behind it.
I'm actually interested in an Atlus take on generic fantasy since they don't normally do that genre.
DriftingSpirit
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In.
SatelliteOfLove
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I mean, the guy directed stone cold classic SMT:Nocturne, which is VEHEMENTLY different than P4 in tone and form. Man has range. Man has talent. I have hype.
Generic fantasy that turns into surprise dark fantasy half-way through with a Berserk-like move (though Berserk was never generic fantasy).
the_sun_king
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P5 already old hat before the rest of the world gets to play it.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
All of this sounds good.
E_Darkness
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New Atlus IP out of no where with a new studio? I'm down.
I already like that armored female elf design.
I already like that armored female elf design.
freeofgreed
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I mean the 2 aren't mutually exclusive. There could be some sort twist with the setting and still have a good story.
And by twist I don't mean plot twist but I mean the setting not being straight fantasy.
Holundrian
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Lol, Persona 5 is actually so meta. Hashino breaking his own chains to free himself to work on something else.
"Do you want emancipation?"
SolidSnakex
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Gematsu translated Hashino's message from the website
http://gematsu.com/2016/12/atlus-announce-brand-new-fantasy-rpg-project-december-23
http://gematsu.com/2016/12/atlus-announce-brand-new-fantasy-rpg-project-december-23
Quintin DM
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I'm in just on the art alone.
Yeah, but 8 years was a looooong wait for a new Hashino directed Megaten. Now if he spends 2-3 years on this and then 2-3 years on another megaten, it's going to be another looooong wait for a new Hashino directed Megaten
I mean, yeah silver lining is that the Devil Survivor team is great and also gets Megaten and they'll do some top-notch Megaten game most likely.
But Hashino games have a specific unique style to them and I'm gonna miss that for a while :\ Plus I'm not the biggest fan of non-megaten Atlus games. It's heresy and all but I don't really like EO, Trauma Center that much and Stella Deus had a great story but gameplay was just ok. I feel like nobody makes well written dark adult games anymore, so megaten is the only place I get those and now it's one less great director and probably team making them. Bummer
I count Catherine as Megaten. I mean it's about demons and done in the same style. I'd be fine with a Catherine 2 actually
I'd just prefer they make something in that style. Fantasy setting is so boring and overdone in rpgs.Frozenprince
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Yeah I know I mean I don't need the setting to be in some VR machine or "It's actually 500000 years in the future".
Just tell a good fantasy story, imo.
Neoleo2143
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That was never a real surprise though. The Black Swordsman Arc blatantly puts Berserk into Dark Fantasy from the start. What was the surprise was how it got there.
I do wonder what sort of fantasy they're going to do for this game since there are so many directions. I think I'd want high fantasy. It'd be neat to see a Hashino take on that.
Yeah, he has tons of range and a ton he wants to say in his games. I think he's being held back by the expectations of Persona these days. The franchise has blown up in Japan, and there's no way it can escape from the formula that they have established. People expect a party of stereotypes, a calendar system, social links, school life stuff mixed with dungeon crawling, etc.
The format is established, it works, let other people write and direct that stuff.
Mentosrock
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If that art is anything to go by, I'm 150% into whatever this is.
Frozenprince
Banned
Also why I don't think him leaving it is a deathknell.
You can get a reasonably talented director that's not quite Hashino's caliber and still crank out Persona shit.
MaximumSpider
Banned
Don't know what ut us yet but you had me at P5 team.
and Atlus
That's why I said with a Berserk-like move and not 'half-way through like Berserk'. =P
freeofgreed
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Lmao I love that kind of shit tho :/
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