the only one of those i watched is terminator 2 and while a pretty good movie it's not super outstanding
...so did the pirates ride? not sure what your point is here
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Avatar Starts Production Today; $1 Billion Budget
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the only one of those i watched is terminator 2 and while a pretty good movie it's not super outstanding
...so did the pirates ride? not sure what your point is here
Discotheque
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that's one of the greatest action movies ever made, to each their own tho
is this a 90s kid vs millenial thing
because you can find much better action even within the last few years
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
How can anyone doubt that these 4 upcoming movies will be the biggest thing cinema/entertainment has ever seen?
And before you start laughing at this sentiment remember what Star Wars was when it first started....
And before you start laughing at this sentiment remember what Star Wars was when it first started....
No I was saying the pirates ride came before pirates movies. Avatar ride came like what, 7-8 years after the movie?
... Yes, I know.
perfectchaos007
Member
It has to make $1billion just to break even. How many movies have made that much money in the history of film?
Also, I'm assuming that means they are definitely going to shoot some scenes in China, to get that Chinese market
Also, I'm assuming that means they are definitely going to shoot some scenes in China, to get that Chinese market
a hot take would be a quick kneejerk reaction to something before reading into it or understanding the background
this is a genuine informed opinion
the pirates ride before pirates came out had nothing to do with the movie. it wasn't until like the third movie that they actually updated the ride to include jack sparrow.
and the avatar ride is hot now because it's a new attraction, in the same way the simpsons ride was ultra hot at universal (even though it came out years after "good simpsons" ended). if disney put out a ride and it wasn't the talk of the park in its first few weeks/months, something's gone wrong.
Badass. I had to pay 60k a year to learn that in my mechanical engineering school (we were on an Imagineering unit at the time).
If you were going to ask how school is going for me, well, the answer is it's not going so well. I've been out for a couple of years now with my shiny degree, and still can't find a job. It's really insane just how fucking tough life can be on you, even when you give it your all.
Haha well thanks for listening. Hope you have a good one
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This is the budget for all four sequels. He's shooting them back to back to back.
His last two movies have been $5 billion. His next four will easily clear $1 billion each.
Badass. I had to pay 60k a year to learn that in my mechanical engineering school (we were on an Imagineering unit at the time).
If you were going to ask how school is going for me, well, the answer is it's not going so well. I've been out for a couple of years now with my shiny degree, and still can't find a job. It's really insane just how fucking tough life can be on you, even when you give it your all.
Haha well thanks for listening. Hope you have a good one
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I like it. Even if we don't get cast we've just solved our Halloween costume conundrum.
Why not... which movies are better action movies than T2?
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
I'm confused. Aren't 90s kids the very epitome of millennials?
Was mainly referring to the recent Apes trilogy. Despite a less notable first entry both of the latter entries have some really breathtaking action and really make you feel for the characters in a way I never did for anyone in T2.
On the merits of the action alone, both of the Raid movies and John Wick movies hit real hard in a way T2 doesn't. Genuinely feel that T2 is held back by its age, some of the special effects don't really hold up anymore. Snowpiercer is also a honorable mention in that it hits deeper themes and ideas than T2 did, even if I wasn't a huge fan of its third act.
no, 90s kids are generally kids who grew up in the 90s, as opposed to what i view as millenials (my age group), who were born in the 90s but grew up in the early 00s
the matrix has one great scene and a bunch of ok scenes.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Hahahaha come on man. Trolling? I can't take those movies seriously.
That's not the right definition.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Wow...
you can't take the apes movies seriously in the same way i can't take an uninventive movie about stealing resources from a native peoples only for the native peoples to rise up with less advanced technology and with the help of "the good guys" win against the oppressive force who want them all dead seriously.
heck even The Last Samurai did more with that premise than Avatar did, and Avatar wasn't even limited by historical events.
yes?
a. i thought you said "it's perfectly fine for you not to like these movies." but now my opinions are "bad?"
b. y'all are the ones who asked me, i didn't take this discussion here.
NippleViking
Banned
They'll earn it back + marketing by the first 2 films.
Forget about Avatar dude you're saying these movies are better than Terminator 2.
and? i've said why i view them as better, you going to make a counter-argument or just ridicule me for stating my opinion?
Dash_Riprock
Member
This thread went stupid a lot faster than I thought it would.
Just hope the first trailer doesn't spoil the entire movie like Avatar 1's did.
Just hope the first trailer doesn't spoil the entire movie like Avatar 1's did.
You can't take one of the most critically acclaimed action series of our generation "seriously?"
You make some interesting posts.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Sorry, I was just a bit stunned. But of course, you're right. Matrix's cheap action scenes do not hold a candle against Keanu Reeves shooting hoards of dummies that openly run into his line of fire, covering the screen with CGI blood. I just saw John Wick 2 couple of weeks back and thought it was a work of art.
Magic Mushroom
Member
I'm looking at a picture of an ape riding a horse right now. This is the stupidest thing I've ever laid eyes on.
i'm sorry that the only scene i found super impressive in matrix was the lobby scene. and that the rest of the action seemed fine but didn't stun me in the same way that wick stabbing someone repeatedly with a pencil or having a gun battle with another assassin through a fountain did.
john wick 2's underground section was weaker than it should've been but it still hit hard while the rest of the movie was firing on all cylinders.
oh, so you've never even watched those movies. got it.
Stiler
Member
Avatar
Titanic
Seeing a pattern here?
He's the only director in history to have not one but two billion+ dollar grossing movies.
Turin Turambar
Member
Ewww.
The Apes movies are actually great. Phenomenal even. You should see them as soon as possible. They still aren't in the discussion with T2.
You could find scenes in most beloved fantasy films that are stupid out of context.
You're honestly kind of embarrassing yourself right now. Like, full ignorance on display.
Discotheque
Banned
Disagree with you immensely on your stance on the genre haha. Plus you failed to mention the only action movie this decade that even belongs in the conversation with stuff like T2, Mad Max Fury Road. Come on man
Lighting already struck twice for Cameron, so it doesn't seem likely that any one upcoming Avatar sequel will make that billion back, but all of them combined? Probably that and some change.
Also, in the end, he's shooting as much or less at one time than Jackson did with LOTR. The shortest cuts of the trilogy still come in at over 9 hours, and Cameron suggested he will be shooting 8, so I'm not sure how it's unprecedented aside from maybe the 3D part.
Also, in the end, he's shooting as much or less at one time than Jackson did with LOTR. The shortest cuts of the trilogy still come in at over 9 hours, and Cameron suggested he will be shooting 8, so I'm not sure how it's unprecedented aside from maybe the 3D part.
that's a real good movie too. it just slipped my mind, was mostly thinking of stuff that stuck with me recently and both apes and wick are up there.
On paper, the Apes movie should be the dumbest shit.
But watch the first movie, Rise of the Planet of the Apes. You'll be surprised.
Discotheque
Banned
The Charlton Heston movie was good too. It was always a goofy concept done right by the themes behind it
I have seen all of the reboot Planet of the Apes movies in theaters and enjoyed the first one at the time but I thought 2 and 3 were dumb. (War for the Planet of the Apes spoilers)
Also the monkeys riding horses was stupid.
Something I really liked in the first movie was that moment where Caesar said "NO". I don't think either of the sequels handled any moments as well as that.
Every time there was a scene handling the subplot of that girl who didn't talk, it was handled in a really hokey way with this weird music. I could not take that seriously. I also could not take the comedic relief ape seriously, I thought his humor was bad and not funny.
Something I really liked in the first movie was that moment where Caesar said "NO". I don't think either of the sequels handled any moments as well as that.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
The whole opening sequence (for which the Wachowskie's reportedly burned their whole initial production budget) convinced Warner to finance the rest of the movie.... The helicopter crash? The iconic bullet time sequence?
I mean, I don't want to argue about taste but I am a bit confused by your statements.
Like, for all I care go ahead and say the Apes movie are better (saw War this year as well and thought it was an amazing movie) but saying Matrix has one good action scene and a bunch of ok ones when it's still groundbreaking to this day is stupid mate.
i don't know what to say to this other than if you watched all three movies and still think apes riding horses are stupid you might've misunderstood or just missed a good amount of what those movies were about
the opening sequence is cool and all but not memorable in a major way. i totally forgot about it until you mentioned it. i felt like the helicopter stuff had way too much slow mo and i think just the eternal parodying of the bullet time stuff destroyed any impact that scene has on me anymore.
I got it, man. Those movies are not subtle at all.
Matt Reeves is the b movie Nolan
edit: more like B Nolan I guess. those movies sure have bigger budgets than most B movies
That was a late-aughties/early 10's trend. Trailers have improved. There'll be 1-3 pop songs and fast editing.
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how did this thread go from "snap saying T2 has been surpassed and that's absolutely mental" to "robotrock is shitting on the Apes trilogy and calling Reeves a b movie Nolan"
like it's not a competition to say the most controversial thing, man