SCULLIBUNDO
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Erm, Avatar invented the perf-cap tech. Not to be confused with mocap. The rig with the camera attached to the subject's head is what we're talking about.
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Avatar Starts Production Today; $1 Billion Budget
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Erm, Avatar invented the perf-cap tech. Not to be confused with mocap. The rig with the camera attached to the subject's head is what we're talking about.
Xisiqomelir
Member
It's getting worse sadly
I'm sad Cameron decided to put all this time and effort in the Avatar universe. I mean, the first film was fun. Largely in part of the then novel 3D and the amazing CGI. Every thing else was fine, but nothing special. I'm honestly not excited at all for new Avatar movies.
I hope Cameron proves us all wrong though.
I hope Cameron proves us all wrong though.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
It's an evolution of the same tech.
Andy Serkis would still make the Apes movies after LotR, King Kong and Heavenly Sword if Avatar never existed.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Nobody said Avatar invented motion capture. It was said Avatar very specifically invented the performance capture tech.
There's no problem here.
It's not even the biggest tech advancement that Avatar spearheaded - which would be the Simulcam.
cloud_sleep
Member
I, for one, welcome our new Avatar overlords. Enjoyed the first one and am looking forward to discovering where Cameron takes the sequels. I only wish there was an IMAX within reasonable distance of where I live.
Dude Abides
Banned
The first one will be a huge pop-cultural event I'm sure, but the story and characters will have to improve a lot to hold people's interest over four movies.
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
...no shit. It was a movie made for 3D.
Why does this thread suck so fucking much? Jesus Christ.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I'm just replying to the idea that The Apes movies wouldn't be a thing without Avatar which I find untrue.
Considering they won't be able to comfortably rely on 3D sales this time around, if anything, it seems excessive at this stage.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
They wouldn't be what they are without the perf cap tech that Avatar spearheaded.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Here we go again with the revisionist history. Avatar owes the 3D surcharge for its success! 2.8billion dollars wasn't all due to 3D surcharge.
The 2D blu was the highest selling home release until Frozen hit.
That was a moist hot take bro.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
You saying you don't think this will prove a smart investment by Fox?
Even if he goes $300m over budget, it would be more than a safe bet.
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
So much hot cake in this thread.
Calm down, dude.
Given how Fox executives we so worried about Avatar's spiralling budget they sold off half the equity in the film to co-financing partners and now here they are making four of these things back to back I'm saying that if Fox can keep Cameron on a financial leash, which no on has managed before, it could be massive for them.
But they won't keep him on a financial leash.
At all.
So we shall see.
But they won't keep him on a financial leash.
At all.
So we shall see.
Discotheque
Banned
eh, he'll definitely go over budget. they'll worry as they always do, he'll deliver them their money back in spades like he tends to do. etc. etc.
Glass Rebel
Member
Regardless of how I feel about the first Avatar, this is going to be amazing. I'm afraid it's gonna make Aquabro look dated in no time.
plagiarize
Banned
World of Pandora at Disney's Animal Kingdom is look like a smart move now, after many people questioned what the hell Disney were doing committing to the Avatar franchise longterm.
I doubt Fox will end up regretting spending this money.
I doubt Fox will end up regretting spending this money.
Easy to come in under budget on stuff like Interstellar where you forget to have boom mics for dialogue scenes.
That's not average at all. Only a few films like Star Wars FA, Avengers, BvS, Dark Knight Rises were 250 million. Most other movies are 150-200 million
Chaos2Frozen
Member
... why now though?
cantona222
Member
The issue is that Avatar has no fans. It was a fun 3D movie but nothing else is memorable about the characters or the story in general.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Christopher Nolan, Peter Jackson, and Joss Whedon have two movies each that grossed over $1b as well.
Cameron was the sole director to have a film over $2b, but JJ Abrams joined that with Force Awakens.
Cameron is the only director to have a film over $2.5b though.
That wasn't due to Abrams though but rather the popularity of Star Wars.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
He still directed a film that people wanted to go see enough times that it made $2b worldwide, and close to $1b domestic.
The post I was referring to was just that Cameron was the sole director to hit two $1b+ films, not two $1b films that were not part of a franchise or based on another property.
Props for his ambition, but yeah this is insanity. It'll be crazy if he can pull it off.
Yeah, none of the prequel trilogy hit $1b in their original run despite Star Wars run. You would have thought TPM hitting $1b would be a done deal given the popularity of the franchise.
BronsonLee
Member
The bolded still stuns me to this day
Homie went from Serenity flopping and all his TV shit getting cancelled to BOOM blockbuster director
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Yeah, it fucks with my head as well. Now let's see how Batgirl turns out.
StrategyFan
Member
hopefully he can find room in the budget to spend more than $500 on writing a story/plot
That's not average.
Yui's Empire
Member
The first movie was insanely spectacular, both in 3D and 2D. Story-wise it wasn't anything special, but it managed to draw an interesting starting point. We'll see if Cameron can continue well from here. The movies will clearly look insanely good, we'll see how the story goes though. I echo the people who'd rather have him chase different directions as well because from a narrative standpoint Avatar was one of his weakest offerings, but if he sets up Avatar 2 right it could lead to something like Star Wars in scope.
p.s. Naughty Dog exclusively hand animated facial animation until Uncharted 4.
Razorback
Member
That's exactly why I want to see these movies, I have no clue what they could be about but if Cameron is hyped about it then so am I.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
I can't be the only one thinking the only real appeal of Avatar was the 3D right? I seen it in theatres and anyone I've talked to said the same thing.
I don't think the sequels will be anywhere near as successful as the first one. The movie was very average, again, outside the novelty of 3d
I don't think the sequels will be anywhere near as successful as the first one. The movie was very average, again, outside the novelty of 3d
PeskyToaster
Member
I'm pumped. I wanna see how Cameron rises to the challenge.
