WaterAstro
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Not really spoiler when they spent so many movies building up to the Infinity War.
It's like saying Return of the King is spoiler.
It's like saying Return of the King is spoiler.
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Avengers 4 title is a spoiler for Infinity War, the phases concept might be ending.
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Age of Ultron and Civil War are events that received a fairly mixed reception, but they weren't events that almost the entire comic book fandom has actively come to revile on mass.
Looooooool as if Monica or Adam are ever getting in the moviesThe only Ultimates I need on the silver screen:
Make it happen Marvel.
Bobby Roberts
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Because otherwise it wouldn't have a title?
(also because they already did it once with Civil War)
(also because what happened in the comics carries almost zero weight with the larger audience)
The Artisan
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bully for me?
BLOODED_hands
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Avengers: Avenging the Avengers' Avengeance
Why is that?
edit: first time I heard of either was in this comic, and they are both fucking awesome. It would be a shame if there were some specific rights fuckery going on with them.
My point is I don't see why they would give it that specific title that predominately has such negative associations in the minds of comic book readers.
I feel Civil War was a different kettle of fish, receiving a much more mixed reception when it first came out, unlike Ultimatium which was reviled by both fans and critics alike.
I love them a lot, but they're pretty d-list
Comic book readers feelings are largely irrelevant.
Not sure how "Ultimatum" would constitute any kind of spoiler, unless we're taking it literally in that the movie will spoil the rest of the Marvel line as its comic counterpart did.
Civil War was an event that was actually known publicly and had some mainstream media attention. The only people who know what Ultimatum was are the poor souls who read that piece of shit.
Civil War was an event that was actually known publicly and had some mainstream media attention. The only people who know what Ultimatum was are the poor souls who read that piece of shit.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Lee has already filmed his part.
http://www.cinemablend.com/news/155...n-lee-filmed-some-of-his-future-marvel-cameos
FantasticMrFoxdie
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That isn't what happened. Claire is not the Night Nurse in the Netflix shows, despite her character's roll in them.
They had planned for her to literally be Night Nurse but Marvel said they had plans for her in the movies so the Netflix shows couldn't use it.
They didn't ignore the Netflix shows as you're saying. The Netflix producers knew Night Nurse was in the movies when they filmed the first season of Daredevil.
Keep in mind will already have a Black Panther and Mrs Marvel movie out. Having a second teamup sub-franchise might be a big enough reason to do it.
Also, audiences went and saw an Ant Man movie, I think it's safe to say Marvel Marketing can make anything look good, even with unknowns.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Because comic book readers don't matter here.
not after a decade and so many billions later. Nobody's withholding cool titles used on shitty comic books because 15,000 people will have question marks over their heads at their usage.
Whompa02
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way ahead of ya
There is absolutely zero chance it's called Ultimatum, haha.
If they don't matter, why take the trouble to name it after a comic book event at all? Why not call it something new?
Bobby Roberts
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It's not an if.
Ragelink26
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Wow, I would actually love a Sorcerer's Apprentice short film with Doctor Strange. That's a great idea
My question still stands, Sir.
The Defenders show up with the cast from Agents of Shield, only to be killed off nearly immediately.
The Broken Ska Record
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AVENGERS 4EVER
Which works because there's already an arc titled Avengers Forever. I know comics good
Which works because there's already an arc titled Avengers Forever. I know comics good
Pai Pai Master
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Probably because Kevin Feige is a big nerd like us and likes using those titles, but they ultimately do not matter in the long run.
The concepts in the events (particularly Civil War) certainly do matter even if the stories play out completely differently. So it makes sense to use them but they're not really doing so as a specific nod towards fans of the books.
That the phase concept is ending might be the bigger news here.
With the Iron Man, Captain America and presumably Thor franchises ending, the formula of having each phase build up to an Avengers movie that serves as the culmination of that phase doesn't make sense anymore. They could continue with Strange, BP, CM, Spider-Man and so on, under a new name like New Avengers. They probably will. But at any rate I think their approach of the Avengers movies being event movies will change. I can see them doing a movie just called Secret Wars, instead of Avengers: Secret Wars, and have it be more of a one and done affair. We'll see.
With the Iron Man, Captain America and presumably Thor franchises ending, the formula of having each phase build up to an Avengers movie that serves as the culmination of that phase doesn't make sense anymore. They could continue with Strange, BP, CM, Spider-Man and so on, under a new name like New Avengers. They probably will. But at any rate I think their approach of the Avengers movies being event movies will change. I can see them doing a movie just called Secret Wars, instead of Avengers: Secret Wars, and have it be more of a one and done affair. We'll see.
pirateluigi
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I, for one, am ready for Disney's Marvel's Avengers 4: Star Wars: Episode X: Avenging the Jedi
Avengers: Secret Wars incoming.
Also:
yes pls
Also:
The only Ultimates I need on the silver screen:
Make it happen Marvel.
yes pls
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Avengers 4: X-Men United
Pretty much this.
Civil War is one of the most popular and well known events in comic history. It made national headlines a couple times during that year.
Age of Ultron isn't but it was simply looked at a disappointing/poor event. Ultimatum is only known in comic circles and is literally known for being one of the worst comic events that has ever been printed.
Marvel will never use "Ultimatum" as a title for a movie.
badcrumble
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I will never, ever understand why people want Disney to buy the X-Men rights from Fox instead of the FF/Doom/Annihilus/Galactus rights.
Bobby Roberts
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I don't have an answer. I don't think Marvel Studios really gives that much of a fuck whether or not their titles come from good comics or not. They don't give that much of a fuck about adapting their contents anywhere near faithfully, either.
They care about taking the characters, and making good movies with them.
If they make a good movie with a good story that borrows a title from a shitty comic book, does it really matter if the comic is shitty?
Nobody's going to read it anyway.
Pai Pai Master
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We don't even know if those rights belong to FOX to sell. FF rights are kind of a mess.
Personally, I hear people ask for FF more these days, especially because of Doom and Galactus. Probably because Fox turned around the X-Men movies and are more realistic that of there being no chance that it returns to Marvel thanks to Deadpool of all things.
(That being said, I wouldn't be upset at phase 5 opening up with Astonishing X-Men, written and directed by Joss Whedon.)
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