Source: Super Interessante and Comicbookmovie.com
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/KingPatel/news/?a=127691
So not impossible, but complicated. Hmm...
Killgrave me if old.
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Avengers: Infinity War: Adding Defenders Into Film Is "Complicated"
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Source: Super Interessante and Comicbookmovie.com
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/KingPatel/news/?a=127691
So not impossible, but complicated. Hmm...
Killgrave me if old.
Would it be so hard to just cut away to a shot of these guys on the ground, fighting off Thanos' minions, showing them saving some civilians, if only for acouple minutes? I don't think anyone expects them to be some major plot element as an impactful team for the overall conflict, but these guys are gonna do what they do - save whatever civilians they can.
Inferno313
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I honestly doubt any of the TV characters will ever show up on film. Even with what I've seen of Agents of Shield, the show most tied into the movies, it definitely seems like the relationship is pretty one-directional. The TV show builds story arcs and episodes to tie into the movies, but it seems like as far as the filmic MCU is concerned, none of that shit is referenced even remotely. If you just watch the films, you'd still think Coulson is dead.
Most of the avengers would too.
internetwolf
Banned
OH MY YES
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
I hope The Defenders aren't in the movies. That would be weird.
This is why I'm hoping things will change come Phase 3. Feige himself said it is inevitable that the movies will eventually reference the TV shows, so I hope this will be sooner rather than later.
Good. Keep those two universes as separate as possible because otherwise continuity and the audience's understanding of what the 'world' knows (or is supposed to know) becomes impossible, and grounding the street-level characters becomes harder.
*Scarlet Witch causes the Hulk to go mad in Brazil, helps save a city in the sky and joins the Avengers*
Jessica Jones "Nobody will believe there is a man out there mind controlling people"
*Scarlet Witch causes the Hulk to go mad in Brazil, helps save a city in the sky and joins the Avengers*
Jessica Jones "Nobody will believe there is a man out there mind controlling people"
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
That's a choice though. If they wanted to say they're names like Candyman, they can do it.
If they really wanted to do a full crossover, they'd do it... it's just a logistical nightmare and thinking of a logical way to bring them in.
Aren't film appearances in Charlie Cox's contract ?
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http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/daredevil-charlie-cox-contracted-do-marvel-movies
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http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/daredevil-charlie-cox-contracted-do-marvel-movies
But then again we would probably have random Cap using Mjolnir or something overpower like that =P
Would be awesome to see Daredevil help deflect a projectile that would kill Hawkeye
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I don't expect the movies and TV shows to crossover in any significant way in the near future. Daredevil and Jessica Jones don't benefit at all from being in this supposedly larger universe. Maybe it's for the best since they have to nurture their own strengths, but if these were produced by another company with the rights, they'd probably have the same level of connection. Vague references and tiny easter eggs.
Ben Morales
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OMG I need this to happen!
Can we just get a spinoff movie or miniseries with those two? lol
They acknowledge this in the show though. Something along the lines of, "Aliens attacked New York and you're having trouble believing mind-controllers are real?"
I thought Perlmutter was gone? I think this is merely a case of logistics.
The Elite
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I wouldn't be surprised if they are in everyone's contract. That way they can use them if they want but that doesn't mean it's going to happen.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
That's also another reason a crossover would fall apart. If Perlmutter was bitter about the re-org and forces his tv division to just be a stick in the mud.
I know he's still there but my understanding is that he's still in charge of the TV division.
Agreed, especially since they nailed the casting with him IMO. But I get it, they're two different worlds between Netflix and film, with entirely different tones, even though they're all part of the MCU.
Not without it turning into a giant cluster. They definitely have to have the Guardians though. It would be an utter waste if they didn't team up, plus it makes sense from the story perspective at this point.
The defenders are beyond peak human as well to various degrees. That gives them better chances than hawkeye and widow. Especially if matt is less prone to getting massively fucked up in the future
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Let's read between the lines here.
Feige's got a story locked down
That story doesn't really include the Defenders right now.
The Defenders is part of the TV division
The TV division isn't really managed like the Film Division
I'm comparing how far apart the two are by using Fox's X-men and Sony's Spidey, even.
We only have control over what the film division says is good.
Basically: Feige isn't accounting for the Defenders, so neither are the filmmakers, and the possibility of Feige and Perlmutter coming together to hammer out a way to get the two divisions to merge isn't particularly high.
Orbis Tabula
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I imagine it would be complicated. I still hope they find a way to do it. Would be cool to see literally everything come together.
Of course they will.
I expect a scene in (probably) the second Infinity War film that has fucking everybody in it. The Avengers, the Defenders, the Agents of Shield, everyone. Can't be that hard to get a bunch of people in for a ten second cameo in front of a green screen as they chew through whatever army of mooks Thanos shows up with.
That's the money shot of this whole endeavor. Of course it's happening.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Yeah, he's still in charge of Marvel Entertainment. The movie division was just brought under Disney itself.
they're making two Avengers 3s for a reason. can't fit all that greatness into one film.
I fully expect Daredevil to get in some shit with Spider-Man.
they'll also work out a deal with Fox to get F4 and Wolverine in there. believe.
They can do it like the beginning of Hickman's Avengers run. Establish that there is a serious challenge before them and have a montage of Tony and Steve (or whoever is leading) going around recruiting people.
They need an Avengers Machine.
BronsonLee
Member
Ike Perlmutter: Man, I don't know, Kevin. That sounds like a huge endeavor, and you know actors have all these scheduling conflicts and whatnot...
Kevin Feige: We'll pay for the actors
Ike Perlmutter: Sold.
Kevin Feige: We'll pay for the actors
Ike Perlmutter: Sold.
The only characters from the whole TV area of Marvel (not counting Peggy Carter obviously) that really have a chance of a film appearance are Coulson (returning) and Quake (for Inhumans, if it doesn't exclusively take place in Attilan).
The Netflix shows are remotely removed even from the ABC TV shows, let alone the films. At best I could see some kind of mass crowd cameo somewhere in Infinity War, since that's always been a fun thing to do for one splash page for these big crossovers in comics.
The Netflix shows are remotely removed even from the ABC TV shows, let alone the films. At best I could see some kind of mass crowd cameo somewhere in Infinity War, since that's always been a fun thing to do for one splash page for these big crossovers in comics.
Choppasmith
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I keep thinking how in the Infinity Gauntlet comic, they cut back to Earth showing Widow and a couple other heroes trying to save civilians from the devastating effects of Thanos using the gems. I really think it wouldn't be too hard. Throw it in there in such a way that doesn't completely alienate Non-TV viewers. Like how Peggy and Howard appear in Ant-man. They appear in a way fans keeping up would go "Oh hey it's them!" but someone who doesn't really keep up with the MCU just goes "Oh they're just colleagues I guess"
I'm now sad this will likely never ever happen
I can't see why each couldn't get a small cameo or something, helping out people on a street level. Every time Captain America stopped his fight with Ultron to help a kitten out of a tree it really broke the action sequences for me. Having Daredevil and Luke Cage for that would be awesome. And in a 2 part movie there better be some damn cameos.
peanutbutterlatte
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Pfft they've said they're "thinking" about Guardians and Avengers. Their business is to be non-comittal.
BronsonLee
Member
Would Kilgrave's power work on Thanos?
Throw Stark in there too. But seriously, this needs to happen.
TheCowboyPoet
Member
Seems kind of silly to not have the movie and film divisions working closely together.
Infinity War 2 really needs to have a scene where The Defenders, The Guardians, and Coulson's SHIELD team arrive to support the Avengers.
Infinity War 2 really needs to have a scene where The Defenders, The Guardians, and Coulson's SHIELD team arrive to support the Avengers.
BronsonLee
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Stark is a goddamn lightweight compared to those two
It'd be the best drinking competition in history
You should check up what the mad titan is capable of. I know we arent gonna get any backstory, but if hes but a fraction of as imposing as his comic counterpart, hes gonna be a beast
Time to sub in the mead drinking champion. Then have them walk around in a semi drunken state in new york
It's stuff like this that makes me think the Defenders at best would just be cameos.
It's already going to be crazily stuffed and most of The Avengers at this point are on different levels entirely.
Also this
Getting the crap kicked out of him is practically Matt's defining character trait though
Meanwhile Hulk and Drax would be having a conversation in the background because Hulk is the only person who can speak so basically and literally that Drax will fully understand the conversation.
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