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Avengers: Infinity War: Adding Defenders Into Film Is "Complicated"
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that's what the suit's for
You know those montages they do where it shows heroes around the world helping with some big crisis? The 90s X-Men show did it once where it showed dozens of heroes worldwide (including a cameo from Spider-Man) helping in their respective cities. They're only on screen for a couple of seconds each, but you can do that in Infinity War Part 2 without running into the problem of having to introduce them all for the people who don't watch the shows, just the movies.
I mean, why not, it's supposed to be your big climax.
I mean, why not, it's supposed to be your big climax.
BronsonLee
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Oh christ
Orbis Tabula
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I'm expecting that what we'll end up getting is some sort of Infinity War: Part 1.5 that is all the Netflix characters, taking place on Netflix, doing something that's sort of related to the rest of the universe, but is mostly self contained, and it'll basically be represented as a Defenders Season 2.
I imagine it only works on humans.
Because that's what people are saying. "Everyone must be on screen always at the same time nonstop in everything forever".
BronsonLee
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Kilgrave commands Star Lord to DANCE
Are you seriously trying to take away a film role from me?!
the king of suffering is his defining trait. He just happens to get fucked up from time to time.
technically he is but his will power alone would snuff the purple man
Have you seen read the threads?
Me neither. I can understand both the in-universe reasons and practical reasons for why every character wouldn't show up. The one thing I do hate, though, are all the "big guy" or "guy with magical hammer" references on the shows. I don't know why they don't just name them.
#sorrynotsorry
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Of course, though no way are you getting AoS. Maybe Coulson. Maybe maybe Daisy. No one else.
Hopefully he keeps up with street level mooks then. Cause i dont think that suit is going to be much help against the hand
Absolutely. It's so awkward already when they mention stuff from the movies in the Netflix shows, even if it's just a sentence. AoS is different, but I prefer them doing their own thing too. Having Sif as a cameo or stuff like that is enough for me.
I prefer them separate.
The ones where they say "I'd like if the TV characters got a brief cameo in the climactic film of the MCU"? That's not exactly "everyone has to be on screen always at the same time forever in every single movie".
At least it isn't as bad as the wink wink nod nod crap Gotham does
This will never make sense to me. There's nothing in the Netflix shows or the movies that suggests they are completely different universes or incompatible with one another.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
I've had this scene in my head for years now, but I can't see it happening on screen. Not even taking into consideration as to narratively why they'd all be in the same place at the same time, logistically it sounds like a nightmare. Sure there's green screen, but eh.
I'd scream if it happened though.
Christ, it isn't fucking difficult Marvel.
Just do what you do everytime you have a shitty event comic (save for Secret Wars, that was boss.) The Avengers film focuses on the main threat, the other properties kinda tie-in in increasingly vague ways. Like fuck... have Thanos's little sewing circle of assassins target Shield and The Defenders.
Oh, and have Agent Carter meet Thanos in the 1940s and he's all 'LOL, WOMAN' and she stabs him in the eyes with her heel and he fucks off back to Legoland in his rocket ship like the chicken-leg bitch he is.
Just do what you do everytime you have a shitty event comic (save for Secret Wars, that was boss.) The Avengers film focuses on the main threat, the other properties kinda tie-in in increasingly vague ways. Like fuck... have Thanos's little sewing circle of assassins target Shield and The Defenders.
Oh, and have Agent Carter meet Thanos in the 1940s and he's all 'LOL, WOMAN' and she stabs him in the eyes with her heel and he fucks off back to Legoland in his rocket ship like the chicken-leg bitch he is.
radios shipping overview
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This doesn't need to happen. I'm perfectly happy with keeping the grownups at the grownup table.
He's Catholic, after all.
He's Catholic, after all.
A comic isn't anywhere close to the same as coordinating two different branches of a corporation with different contracts and schedules.
It would be one hell of a swerve if it somehow manages to be about phyla rather than carol.
I don't think it will go that far. I think at some point there will be a call for help and Coulson will pull a Gandalf the White and show up with "reinforcements", and everybody will just be there. They won't even bother introducing the vast majority of the characters. Maybe there will be a few sight gags in the background during the "yay we beat thanos" after party with characters hanging out, but I wouldn't expect them to spend a lot of time on anyone from the TV side.
Bobby Roberts
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Making movies is exponentially harder than making comics. You can't just have an editor drop a couple emails, swap in a fast artist, and crank out 15 scripts in the course of a month and hope the two-month pushback will be enough time. That doesn't work in TV and Film production.
It's crazy enough that Marvel Studios has managed to keep things as tightly organized with the storylines as they have. Besides which, having the Studios go out of their way to imitate publishing's strategies (especially during events) isn't a foolproof plan for success, either.
People are still getting used to the craziness they see in the films all being in the same universe. They aren't ready for the craziness of the comics.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Or god forbid Monica
The movies don't need to be two and a half hours of action. They can have some quiet scenes with exposition and character development, too.
I still think it's hysterical that Genis kept stealing Monica's codenames.
Monica would be great for hype and salt. Oh man, it would be a wonderful time
He was photon too, wasnt he? He'd definetely take her last one.
I don't believe they've even officially said the Guardians will be in Infinity War-even though with Nebula and Gamora's relationship to him it seems likely.
While the kid in me would love to see one giant shot of all the heroes together-I recognize it doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense for Matt Murdock and Jessica Jones to suddenly drop what they're doing and head over to Avengers Tower to help out. Maybe just include a small montage of what the other heroes on Earth are doing while the main team is taking on Thanos or whatever.
While the kid in me would love to see one giant shot of all the heroes together-I recognize it doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense for Matt Murdock and Jessica Jones to suddenly drop what they're doing and head over to Avengers Tower to help out. Maybe just include a small montage of what the other heroes on Earth are doing while the main team is taking on Thanos or whatever.
All Avengers would.
I bet we would see some shit if it is Monica
Simple. The Avengers are having trouble even getting to Thanos, then Coulson rolls by in his bigass plane and dudes just start dropping out of the back door onto motherfuckers heads. Cue 120 seconds of Marvel Super Heroes ® kicking ass in a gigantic battle, they punch a hole through the enemy lines and the Avengers (whatever that lineup happens to be) get where they're going. Continue with the movie.
Triggerhappytel
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I don't expect The Defenders to show up - their team-up TV show probably won't be ready until 2017, right? I guess they could fit into IW pt 2, but I don't really see it happening.
Also, with the Avengers and the Guardians on board to fight Thanos, they're probably going to have 15-20 heroes. Not sure there's going to be room for the Defenders as well.
Also, with the Avengers and the Guardians on board to fight Thanos, they're probably going to have 15-20 heroes. Not sure there's going to be room for the Defenders as well.
Thor and hulk would at least be left standing. The rest would be puddles of goo
fallengorn
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Yeah, everyone wants that huge, mega-awesome spread page on screen, but I don't see it happening.
It's already looking pretty massive without including the Defenders and Secret Warriors. If you just use characters from the movies...
Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, Warriors Three, Sif, Iron Legion, Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Spidey, Ant-Man, Wasp, Captain Marvel, Inhumans maybe?
Without the glove, kinda of...
TVexperto
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Was he even mentioned in the second avengers movie? I dont remember..
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Nope.
Damn I wasn't even thinking about them. It would be awesome if during the final fight, Thor arrives with the calvary, Heimdal opens the Bifrost and all the armies of the 10 realms pour out to fight Thanos.
Father_Brain
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Feige more or less confirmed a couple months back that the films would start referencing the TV series eventually.
But all I expect is just that - references. If a character or plot point originating on a TV series ever gets more than a very brief cameo or cursory reference in a future Marvel Studios film, I'll be very surprised.
This is true, too. The production schedules (as Feige himself said), audience sizes, and budgets are pretty vastly different between the two mediums, even on top of the different Marvel divisions involved.
This too.
But all I expect is just that - references. If a character or plot point originating on a TV series ever gets more than a very brief cameo or cursory reference in a future Marvel Studios film, I'll be very surprised.
This is true, too. The production schedules (as Feige himself said), audience sizes, and budgets are pretty vastly different between the two mediums, even on top of the different Marvel divisions involved.
This too.
Father_Brain
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I don't think anyone is saying that it's unworkable if Marvel Studios really wanted to make it happen, but if you don't think the tone of DD and JJ is vastly different from any of the films and ABC shows, I don't think we've been watching the same series.
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