BruceLeeRoy
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There are a lot of rumors surrounding this. Especially among some of the bigger publishers which is surprising.
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Based on what we know, will the PS4 will be THE multiplatform console next gen?
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There are a lot of rumors surrounding this. Especially among some of the bigger publishers which is surprising.
They might not have been "half assed" as far as work was concerned but the play and presentation certainly felt that way with some titles.
I think this gen things will lead from the top down as everything is close to being based on PC hardware.
So with the PC leading and everything pointing to advantage PS4 in the console stakes, then yes it looks like it will be the default console for multiplats.
As for the whole "it would hurt sales if there isn't parity" sounds like nonsense. 3rd parties dont really care that much about that just as long as it sells, regardless of platform.
What they will care about is if a competitor of theirs utilises the supposed power advantage the PS4 has and being made to look inferior in comparison, as that will hurt its entire franchise.
So with the PC leading and everything pointing to advantage PS4 in the console stakes, then yes it looks like it will be the default console for multiplats.
As for the whole "it would hurt sales if there isn't parity" sounds like nonsense. 3rd parties dont really care that much about that just as long as it sells, regardless of platform.
What they will care about is if a competitor of theirs utilises the supposed power advantage the PS4 has and being made to look inferior in comparison, as that will hurt its entire franchise.
Whoa, what was his evidence for this? That seems very surprising.
Isn't this information from early 2012 in the case of Microsofts console? Specs which SuperDaE claims are no longer up to date, which was initially met as bullshit, but may have been correct: http://kotaku.com/5986239/the-rise-and-fall-of-superdae-a-most-unusual-video-game-hacker
He said it was rumblings he was hearing.
Alcoholikaust
Member
gimme that party/group/cross game chat then yes
other than that: gonna need to buy a "nextbox" for that console multiplayer experience :/
other than that: gonna need to buy a "nextbox" for that console multiplayer experience :/
BruiserBear
Banned
Where were you listening to Patrick? Bombcast?
Richard Ledbetter is a much more credible source than SuperDae. A guy who writes about gaming tech for a living, vs a dude with a twitter account. Think about it.
Well ... steambox should be the PC console .. so ....
The amount of time it takes to verify and actually produce a console with a motherboard + all the other bits and bobs and having to respin it actually get it working, is around a year or so. The specs would have been locked down last year with minor changes happening (changing of amount of ram, clock speeds, etc) but one thing that will not happen is that the CPU / GPU will not change from what they are currently are.
If there do, Microsoft will not be releasing this year.
I can believe this. I could see EA partnering with Microsoft in hopes of pushing Sony out of the hardware bushiness while at the same time eliminating some other studios that they compete with.
Portugeezer
Gold Member
Most likely, or at least we can assume they won't be shit ports like PS3.
What if then, everyone just went to PS4 because MS was blocking used games.
Everyone would say "thanks for trying but no-one is buying your system" and they will all come to PS4.
It's just gonna backfire on MS, thus why I believe they won't do it.
On-Topic: If it is as developer centric as they said then yes, but we need to see Microsofts hand first.
GillianSeed79
Member
I don't know anything about programming, but would it really be that easy. Like if you wrote identical code for both versions, is it as easy as just writing a few different lines of code or flipping a metaphorical switch so to speak to turn up antialiasing or shadow quality?
I think I might be leaning toward the idea that multiplats will be like this gen where they look nearly identical, but one of the two will see better performing or slightly better looking ports with PS4 looking to have the tech advantage this gen. Then again, I imagine sales play a big deal. Hypothetically (this is just a hypothetical) if Durango were to drastically outsell the PS4, wouldn't it make business sense to focus resources on the platform with the most sales even if it's less technically capable?
Obviously, I imagine the big disparity will be between the first-party offerings right? Like how Naughty Dog basically could to just focus on the PS3 and squeeze everything out of it while third parties were just trying to make sure PS3 and 360 versions were running at near parity.
Why in the world would EA do that, considering all the PS3 exclusives/advertising they did with Sony?
EA has, and has always had, a closer relationship with Sony than Microsoft. They are a strategic partner. Signed, someone who has to use fucking Dualshock 3s at every Battlefield 3 DLC event.
EA seems pretty fickle. Guess that should be the next armchair game.
Still, I'd imagine most companies are aligned with Microsoft. Should be interesting when Capcom, SquareEnix and Sega officially align with Microsoft (again).
iceatcs
Junior Member
No way. EA can't afford lose FIFA PS users.
Liquid_Bike
Member
I just can't see that happening. Money rules these corporations. MS would have to drop some serious coin for that kind of deal. It seems like it could easily backfire on EA leaving them in a bad spot. I'm not sure they have much to gain from that scenario.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Even then, without consciously adding effects that make 2 versions disparate, there will be things like consistent framerate and less tearing that are just a side effect of running on better hardware and not necessarily coded for. And apparently a few fps is enough to sway many Gaffers toward one version.
I don't know, but those devs will be skewered by the gamer community, and Digital Foundry will either out them for it, or go silent. DF has a precedent of questioning why developers didn't take advantage of some of the hardware features of the 360, when the PS3 version ended up superior.
Well, yeah. It's a given that all this discussion is based on rumored specs until we get official ones. It's all hypothetical talk that interests some people. There was a whole bunch of speculative comparisons based on Sony going with 4GB of GDDR5, and that obviously changed.
That's the "special sauce" that could actually trump inferior hardware. Nintendo started next gen moneyhatting Monster Hunter and Bayonetta. If Sony or Microsoft(more likely of the 2) were to pay for timed-exclusivity of the first next gen COD, it'd be a huge blow if not game over for the other platform holder.
Unprofessional Fridays. They were talking about which games would show up to a Microsoft reveal. Their guesses were Fallout 4 and Battlefield 4.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Wrong company with EA
Yup. That relationship sounds like its only gotten stronger for the next generation.
Battlefield: Wrong Company 2.
If he knew they were outdated why did he leak them in the first place? Why not the current specs?
Oh yeah... that's going to be a huge thing. Both manufacturers are actively chasing third party timed exclusives. Alignments are still forming, but it probably isn't worth drawing those out from the third parties that appeared at Sony's reveal.
Wasn't the information leaked a long time ago?
McHuj
Member
Which is surprising since there was nothing from EA at the even this week.
Maybe we'll see DA3 or BF4 at GDC on PS4?
Absolutely, it's one of EA's most profitable game segments. It would be like dropping Xbox Madden.
I wouldn't say Rockstar aligned with Microsoft. They paid them a bunch of money to have that GTA4 DLC, but apart from that they were fairly even, apart from the odd weird bit of content being exclusive to PS3 (red dead and LA Noire had stuff)
Bethesda though...
If they wanted to MS could just buy EA. They paid 20 billion for Skype, EA is worth 5.3 billion right now. If the relationship was strong they'd have been at the PS4 reveal.
I naively thought this was a thing of the past, in all honesty. I wonder if Microsoft's used game ban was the price they had to pay for it.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I don't see many Japanese companies align with MS this upcoming gen if both system come out around the same time still i could be wrong .
soulassssns
Banned
I'm not going to assume anything until I see official specs for the nextbox.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Why stop at EA? Considering the same metric Microsoft could buy Sony wholesale and end this once and for all. hehehe If only it were that easy...
it's pretty dangerous to place any bets this early. i'm still thinking that MS is going to go all out on this console to take over the home box space - throwing way more resources at it than Sony can afford to do.
BF4 will probably be GDC, as with MOH and BF3 before it. GDC is a bigger thing for announcements recently.
grosvenor_92
Member
This.
He's right.
As others have said, Fifa is massive in Europe, and Sony is massive in Europe. I cannot fathom EA going heavily into Microsoft's corner and abandoning Sony at least on that franchise.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Yeah good point.