Neodiablo22
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Am I the only one feeling sad for Commander Adama having his ship molested by a tentacle monster?
NimbusD said:what? did I miss something?
When he was giving info he said that 2 of the five saw people that werent there. One saw a woman and the other a man.NimbusD said:what? did I miss something?
NimbusD said:what? did I miss something?
NullPointer said:Yeah - that part flew by me as well. Whats this about the five seeing people as warnings? On Caprica? Or on Earth?
Damn, Baltar is definitely some type of cylon. The six has that ability too.B.K. said:On Earth, before it was nuked. That's why they recreated the resurrection technology. They were warned of the destruction by people that weren't really there.
bachikarn said:Wait, so did they say who nuked Earth? Was it the humans from Kobol?
A Penguin said:So, how does Boomer know where Galactica is?
A Penguin said:So, how does Boomer know where Galactica is?
B.K. said:Apparently. Anders said that when the five got the warning about the destruction of Earth, they had visions of people that weren't really there.
NimbusD said:He remembers everything? shit, if there weren't so few episodes left I'd say that would be the mark of death for Anders.
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'John' says "on the centurion side of the family", the 7 cylons are half centurion half final five/earth cylons?
~Kinggi~ said:When he was giving info he said that 2 of the five saw people that werent there. One saw a woman and the other a man.
fistfulofmetal said:More information was given in this episode than the entire series of Lost.
BorkBork said:Let me see if I can get everything straight.
Or am I missing something?So the original five from Earth, who survived the nuking, fled and took thousands of years to reach the twelve colonies. Once there, they found those cylons were looking to build better hybrids after retreating from the war with the humans and offered their help, provided that they promised not to war with the humans anymore. Cavil and the other human looking Cylons were created. But Cavil betrayed the original five and killed them, blocked their memories and placed them on earth and so forth.
My question is specifically for Saul's timeline. The first war between the Twelve colonies and the Cylons was 40 years ago. Saul fought in that war with Adama. How was the second version of him there before the Cylons rebelled, attempted to create hybrids, and met the original five?
NimbusD said:A few people in this thread said they met 20 years after the war.
NimbusD said:One thing I want to know more about is why the 13th colony was all cylons.
El_TigroX said:That's what I'm trying to figure out....
So, the 13th colony, Kobol, had cylons that then traveled to Earth, populated that place... then the nuke happens. The final 5 go back to Kobol to warn them?
So... the 13th colony was just Centurions? I thought the humans MADE the Centurions... so did they make them as a colony thousands of years ago, or was it people?
I'm so fucking confused... so so so fucking confused.
Information overload in that episode, indeed.
El_TigroX said:That's what I'm trying to figure out....
So, the 13th colony, Kobol, had cylons that then traveled to Earth, populated that place... then the nuke happens. The final 5 go back to Kobol to warn them?
So... the 13th colony was just Centurions? I thought the humans MADE the Centurions... so did they make them as a colony thousands of years ago, or was it people?
I'm so fucking confused... so so so fucking confused.
Information overload in that episode, indeed.
Anyone think that "Daniel" sorta has the same nose as Billy?
neojubei said:I have a bizarre theory.The man is Baltar and the woman is Six and they somehow can communicate with their past selves and 2 of the final five. Remember the vision of Six and Baltar carrying Hera away in the opera house in what looks like room of light.
El_TigroX said:That's what I'm trying to figure out....
So, the 13th colony, Kobol, had cylons that then traveled to Earth, populated that place... then the nuke happens. The final 5 go back to Kobol to warn them?
So... the 13th colony was just Centurions? I thought the humans MADE the Centurions... so did they make them as a colony thousands of years ago, or was it people?
BrokenFiction said:See I thought it was that the 13th colony was humans that developed the resurrection technology and they built their own centurions who rebelled and nuked the earth. But the 5 got away b/c of resurrection and travelled at sub-light speed to the 12 colonies where they offered to help THOSE cylons if they ended the war with the other humans, but John/Cavil had other ideas.
I've gone crosseyed.
El_TigroX said:Yeah, I got that... maybe I didn't explain my issue well enough... oh god how do I do this...
ok... the cylons that nuked the humans at the start of the miniseries - the "original" cylons that we knew... the people that the 5 came and taught how to do resurrection and stop the war, etc.
WHERE THE FUCK DID THEY COME FROM?
WHO built them... if it was the humans that are there... HOW did they come to exist - destiny? this cycle of events always leads to the construction of cylons? I think that's it... It's not a matter of how they got made, they always will get made based on this cycle.
This is just stream of consciousness at this point... I just don't understand the relationship between the final five and the Centurions - how did the final five KNOW that if they traveled for thousands of years, they would find Centurion cylons? Visions?
BrokenFiction said:I had thought the "original cylons that we knew" (as you put it) were built by the 12 colonies humans. Remember the opening credits said something to the effect of "This has happened all before".
El_TigroX said:Yeah, I got that... maybe I didn't explain my issue well enough... oh god how do I do this...
ok... the cylons that nuked the humans at the start of the miniseries - the "original" cylons that we knew... the people that the 5 came and taught how to do resurrection and stop the war, etc.
WHERE THE FUCK DID THEY COME FROM?
B.K. said:The humans in the twelve Colonies built Centurion Cylons. The Centurions rebelled against humanity and started the first Cylon war. During the war, they made the first hybrids, like on the Basestars. The five from Earth found them and told them they would help them make the skin jobs and give them the resurrection technology if they ended the war.
Yep. Good acting can always raise somewhat average material. You buy into Cavil because of Stockwell. One of my complaints is how long the rebel cylons dissapeared for and the lack of interplay between some of the rebel cylon models in general.JayDubya said:Dean Stockwell really is fantastic in this show.
I mean, technically "John's" motive and his little spiel are not anything startlingly original, as we've seen them as recently as Agent Smith in the Matrix, but they feel fresh here, and quite convincing.
You mean like black doctor cylon and PR cylon? I don't even know WHEN we saw them last....Stoney Mason said:One of my complaints is how long the rebel cylons dissapeared for and the lack of interplay between some of the rebel cylon models in general.
El_TigroX said:You mean like black doctor cylon and PR cylon? I don't even know WHEN we saw them last....
El_TigroX said:I just don't understand what the "final five" are... because they say they are cylons, but are they? Sounds like they are the cylon fore-fathers because they gave them the tech to make skin jobs, but are not explicitly linked... except by perhaps a single god and the cycle of events of world creation and destruction.
BrokenFiction said:I guess I'm going with the theory that the final five were the original resurrected humans and downloads, so they had to download into *something*. They had the technology then to build human-like bodies to accommodate their human brains. Because of this they've become "hybrids" of a kind. They passed this technology onto the 12 colony cylons and because they gave them free will, they were able to choose their own path, and John chose...poorly?
El_TigroX said:You mean like black doctor cylon and PR cylon? I don't even know WHEN we saw them last....
Zabka said:Nuclear genocide is pretty bad, but brainwashing then sleeping with your mother is just fucked up.
Deadly Monk said:Daniel is Starbucks father, guarantee it.