missed opportunity mang !
One of the most satisfying run speeds/animations. Especially when you fly up with it, yeesh
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Best Running Animation
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One of the most satisfying run speeds/animations. Especially when you fly up with it, yeesh
I love it. I would start the demo up every once in a while just to run around. It still feels good and I hope it's better in the final version.
KainXVIII
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(Ghost Song)
Looks like flash animation (AKA bad)
BalishChannel
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By no means amazingly animated, but iconic and great.
Bonus if you're big Mario and have the cape because that run alongside the running SFX is your gateway to the skies.
There aren't any running SFX in Super Mario World.
Shuggananas
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The sound effects sell it too
SparksterMeta0
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plentyofmilhouse
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Oh wow. My bad there! It's Mario 3 with the SFX, isn't it.
I was going to say this as well. Running as Big Boss feels and looks weighty and it's super impressive.
Madden could learn a thing or two.
Giving the nod to 1984 Snake, because of the ponytail.
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mushrambio
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Oh my lord do I remember this. Best post.
Dombrowski
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Something about this running animation is just so appealing to me.
GoldenCrow
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Link in Wind Waker
Vlaphor
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Whenever I see any sprite scaling or rotation without obvious pixelization, I think it looks cheap. I guess that's just the effect of early flash games or something
Crossing Eden
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It's very stiff, especially at the speed of the actual game.
There's also the lack of variations based on slopes it's a bit disheartening to see people constantly naming it as "the best." Because the lack of those things is why he controls so well, because there is very little animation priority.. People are confusing "controls well" with "best animation." Example:See this video.
Doesn't compare to some of the other examples of best animation like FFXV.
That's the entire reason I would personally call it the best. It perfectly balances realistic-looking animation and responsive controls. It's the best running animation in a videogame for that reason.
Are you sure? I had no idea there was a woman character in unless she's an npc.
Contra 4
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
But that's not a perfect balance when there's a total lack of things that other games succeed at very well with responsive controls as well. Just to use FFXV as an example again the player has complete control over Noctis during this entire section.
compared to moments like this
You can also keep the same amount of control while adding subtle things like weight shifting.
well, we are talking about best running animations and MGS 5 has the most realistic running/climbing animations.
Its a stealth/action game where precision and movement matters unlike FF15, so they did the right thing by prioritizing responsiveness over animation unlike other "stealth/action" games.
I think you are confusing your opinions with other people's opinions.
JailDesigner
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You mean this?
I love how she is worried about her hat
ManUnkindH
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Other than the obvious best - MGSV , I liked the running in Assassin's Creed 3. Had a very Last of the Mohicans vibe to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hldCtjT9baI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hldCtjT9baI
Ryouji Gunblade
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Tie between Alucard and Samus.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Except that it doesn't. Precision and movement matters which is why they didn't go out of their way to add anything that would've added any kind of animation priority. It's the same reason why Dishonored has very little canned animations compared to some other FP games that have a shit ton of variations on back stabs.
We also have the tech to support incredible animation quality and very good responsiveness. Just to name two linear games that succeed.
and The Order 1886, (which is a bit ironic because of how often they limit the ability to run around >_>)
There's also the fact that MGS runs at twice the framerate of many games so it inherently already has more responsiveness than say ACU or FFXV compared to the former on pc
The title of the thread is best running animation. ._.
POWERSPHERE
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Flashback on Megadrive
He does it all the time, he thinks his opinion is more worth than anyone elses.
Fate/Cipher
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Yeah. It's really weird to feel "disheartened" by someone else's opinion. Especially so, over personal preference (which is what the term "best" boils down to, more times than not) as it pertains to something so trivial (running animations in video games).
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
No I don't. I just tend to articulate my opinion more often than not. This thread being no exception, especially since it's about animation specifically.
Walk/run cycles aren't trivial. They're one of the most important things when it comes to character animation.
lukeskymac
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You wouldn't even be making this post if the subject game was any other, man.
MGS's animation is fine. He gave valid reasoning as to why it's not the best. Deal with it.
Oh yeah "valid reasoning"... comparing linear 30 fps next-gen titles to a 60fps cross-gen open world game lol
He can have his opinion as much as anyone else but he shouldn't come in here and tell people they are confused about their opinion.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Thank you. The response is as if i'm saying it's straight up bad. Which it most definitely is not.
The reasons I gave.
How are these not valid?
I started the comparison with FFXV and ACU, I brought up UC4 and TO as examples of games with fantastic animation quality yet incredibly responsive controls,
something both the devs of which focused on.
I even commented that one of the reasons why MGSV is more responsive with less animation priority compared to the examples I named is because it's 60fps.
What more do you want in terms of valid reasoning?
lukeskymac
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What the flying fucks does that have to do with anything????? Is this your default answer to MGS criticism? IT'S WALKING ANIMATIONS for heaven's sake, and 60fps should, if anything, make it even more of a priority for Kojima Productions.
yes it does, especially climbing. Uncharted and Order games have responsiveness but are unrealistic and MGS 5 does both really really well and which is why people consider it the best. Importantly uncharted and order can get away with few animation priorities because they don't require the same precision and character movement as MGS 5.
lukeskymac
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Um... what?
Fate/Cipher
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Well, if you won't share with the rest of the class, I will.
I love the way he moves about in Revengeance, though!
you think running and climbing in uncharted looks realistic?, OK
MoogleWizard
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Vanille in FFXIII. Even if giant turtles and other monsters are running after her, she always looks like she's doesn't give a fuck.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The climbing, since it's very limited, is the reason why it's so meticulously animated compared to the run cycle. And even then, i'd argue that other games also succeed at climbing much better with a ton of incredibly well made variations. Uncharted most definitely is stylized but it certainly isn't very unrealistic. Especially when it comes to the tiny details like how often Drake shifts his weight. The Order 1886 probably has the best walk cycle so far this gen because it's a blend of tiny variations so that it doesn't get repetitive which is pretty insane. The lack of required precision is why the devs created better animations in the first place, their mindset was very different.
It's incredibly well done in the latest one. The way Drake's weight shifts around is fantastic.
Triggerhappytel
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I completely disagree. And what's more, the developer (fellow gaffer Jobbs) actually went to the effort of making sure the gun arm stayed consistent according to which way the protagonist was running. A tiny detail, but the kid of thing I find really impressive in a 2D game:
lukeskymac
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Already changing the subject? Climbing in Uncharted isn't realistic, but walking and running (you know, what we are discussing here?) definitely are in both Uncharted AND The Order.
The way he slides down the slope in the first clip is fantastic.But that's not a perfect balance when there's a total lack of things that other games succeed at very well with responsive controls as well. Just to use FFXV as an example again the player has complete control over Noctis during this entire section.
compared to moments like this
You can also keep the same amount of control while adding subtle things like weight shifting.
