Why are ya'll acting like Diamond Joe -- while clearly not as left-leaning on all subjects or as active as Hillbear -- wouldn't have at the very least kept the country on a solid track, empowered other dems, pushed the democrat angle on most issues, appointed center-left leaning SC justices, and kept our international involvement and issues on the right track? ESPECIALLY if he had run with someone like Warren?
Ya'll are fuckin trippin in here. People are talking favorably about Joe not because his record is somehow better than Hillary's, but because he would have appealed better to those swing state voters that Hillary couldn't carry. If you think Joe would have lost Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin, I'm going to laugh in your face. And that's really the bottom line. In a choice between "he's not to bad" and Donald J Trump, we could have had the "he's not so bad" guy and you would be feeling infinitely better about the next 4 years than you do right now.
That's the point. Absorb it.
There's not really any historic indication that he is good at headlining a national campaign, nor any sign that he would have beat Hillary in the primary.
Are you really, honestly saying that Ohio would have gone to Biden? You really think Biden is an 8 point swing over Hillary? Eight points? Some states were close, and could have very well swung based on choice of candidate. But Ohio wasn't even in the top 10 closest states this year, and people treating it like some regular swing state are just mentally copy-pasting the 2004 electoral map to a very different reality.