derExperte
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Also some benchmarks: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/bioshock_infinite_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,6.html So a 7770 should be enough for 30fps with slightly reduced settings/resolution.
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BioShock Infinite PC Performance Thread
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Also some benchmarks: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/bioshock_infinite_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,6.html So a 7770 should be enough for 30fps with slightly reduced settings/resolution.
I'm seeing 6870s for similar prices used, any advantages getting the older card? From what I see it is a good bit faster.
My brother has a 500w psu. I'm assuming that's plenty for a low-midrange card.
Only concern would be size I guess.
derExperte
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The new ones are more energy efficient but the 6870 is still a great card in it's price range. I'm not the biggest fan of buying used cards but you'd definitely get more fps for your money. Another good option could be the new HD7790, depending on where you live maybe you could even get one with Bioshock for free: http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/never-settle/Pages/nsreloaded.aspx#3
7790 would be nice, but he's trying to keep cost as low as possible. I'm aiming to find him something that can maintain 30fps at 1280x720 with pretty good settings.
Thanks for the help by the way. I haven't been keeping up with recent gpus. I start looking at benchmarks and drooling at the mouth... it does nothing but instill envy.
derExperte
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If every Dollar is important maybe even a 7750 could be enough but I think that would be pushing it and a 7770 or used 6870 for around 100$ is a much better buy.
There are some terrible PSUs out there with exaggerated specs but yeah, these cards won't cause any problems.
There are some terrible PSUs out there with exaggerated specs but yeah, these cards won't cause any problems.
reptilescorpio
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Is there an .ini that you can change for the Texture Details themselves? I'm not sure if it is putting out High/Ultra level textures when I select it and want to be sure. Running a 460GTX 1GB.
That memory pool limit value restricts how much VRAM BI uses and scales it accordingly, from what I can gather. The higher the limit, the sharper the textures. But whether that prevents the game from loading high-res textures and downscaling vs. just loading low-res textures... I don't know.
See this post for more info. (It's also mentioned in the OP, nufty)
reptilescorpio
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I've done all that, minimal skipping for me now but I was hoping there was a line in an ini file that shifts between Very Low/Low/Normal/High/Ultra for the Texture Detail setting but on further thought it is probably related to several of the tweaks I have already done. Just seems like a lot of what I have been seeing is lower quality than I expected, odd.
Coolbgdog12
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Anyone got a new GTX 650 TI BOOST? Just came out a week ago or so.
SuperSonic1305
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Where am I supposed to put -ReadTexturePoolFromIni? I don't see any set launch options thing.
For some reason I was getting the failed save message upon every autosave earlier. It seems to have gone away, although I don't know if I did anything to fix it. Maybe it is a Steam cloud sync problem, since the setting in-game reset to "on" somehow while in Steam it is off...
Open your Steam library, right-click BioShock Infinite, click Properties, click Set Launch Options, enter the parameter.
joeygreco1985
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SLI GTX 670s. I'm hitting 120 FPS easily but its stuttering like a motherfucker
thanks for the link, very surprised to see a reference model 660 Ti beating the 7950 Boost even at 1600p... 192 bit bus and all that jazz.
turn vsync off in the game and try adaptive-vsync in "half refresh rate" mode in the Nvidia control panel, does the tearing go away?
SuperSonic1305
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I changed the pool size and now I have texture pop in.
texture pop in = not enough memory for the buffer you set in the "poolsize" variable
SuperSonic1305
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What should I set it to for a 680?
Yes but at 30 fps
As per the OP, if it's a 2GB 680, 1200 (i.e. 2 x 600); if it's a 4GB 680, 2400 (i.e. 4 x 600).
lol !
well 120 Hz monitor here so using Adaptive Vsync at half refresh rate is the reason I get constant 60 fps with no tearing ? definitely this game needs a patch... do you happen to have an i7 CPU? read somewhere the game was buggy with those CPUs, I'm on some i5 3570K here + 660 Ti 3GB factory OC and as I said silky smooth 1080p everything Ultra 60 fps no tearing, only split-second fps drops a couple of times per level (loading spots).
So I have a strange setup, crossfire 5870s, 1gb each. I got the game running butter smooth with everything maxed @1900x1200.
I was having major stuttering issues where the game would pause for several seconds at a time. To fix this I had to do several things.
1 update driver
2 use the - read texture pool from .INI option, this was huge and solved most of my issues
3 disable my second monitor, i used win+p to disable my second monitor, this also helped greatly improve overall frame rate
I recommend trying these things, I set my pool size to 400, had no stuttering and very minimal pop in.
I was having major stuttering issues where the game would pause for several seconds at a time. To fix this I had to do several things.
1 update driver
2 use the - read texture pool from .INI option, this was huge and solved most of my issues
3 disable my second monitor, i used win+p to disable my second monitor, this also helped greatly improve overall frame rate
I recommend trying these things, I set my pool size to 400, had no stuttering and very minimal pop in.
thanks for the tips and congrats on getting the game running fine, the hassle is worth a try since the game is so gorgeous, but reading the benchmark article linked above it says that, for Ultra texture settings @1080p or higher you need 2 GB of VRAM at the very least, how does it work for you with "just" 1 GB ? do you get pop-in ?
I too have crossfire 5870's and it runs mostly okay - 1920X1080 everything maxed out. It either runs at 60 or I get the odd loading hitch. I've played what I can only guess is most of the game so far and thanks to the .ini file tweaks the hitching has been kept to a minimum.
Something is slightly funky with my drivers though because many games think I have 2 GB of vram on each card but I really don't. sysinfo reveals the correct total though.
I can see how some may be sensitive to some of the hitching but it doesn't really bother me because 90% of the game runs very solid and it still looks leagues beyond the console versions so I'm not going to complain to much.
Something is slightly funky with my drivers though because many games think I have 2 GB of vram on each card but I really don't. sysinfo reveals the correct total though.
I can see how some may be sensitive to some of the hitching but it doesn't really bother me because 90% of the game runs very solid and it still looks leagues beyond the console versions so I'm not going to complain to much.
Are you getting the jarring halt at certain points as well? I have a setup similar to yours (5850+5970 CFX) and the majority of the game will run fine, but there are these points were it drops to around half the framerate, give or take. I think I used the texture pool value of around 400, if that was the one that roughly equalled 1GB. I've also tried lower and higher, but they all have the same result :/
With 1GB cards you can bump it up to 600.
Yup, 100%. It was definitely reading the value because when I reduced it, VRAM usage dropped as well (it actually flatlined at a certain amount below total VRAM. So it's like a self-imposed limit). But still, those pauses remained :/
Whilst I think changing that value will fix it for some people whose VRAM is misinterpreted, if what's happening at those stalling locations is swapping of textures, there should be another value where, say, it streams those textures from system RAM into VRAM rather than from disk. I'm going to have a play with FancyCache in this regard, maybe that'll make a difference.
RAID-0 SSDs ;P
Videos I linked before are running the game into RAM and there are pauses. Again, main hitches are no related with poolsize or hdd speed. It's a game bug and nvidia users and amd users have the problem. If someone says he don't have pauses, he can show it recording a video with fraps in the same part of the game.
Yesterday I posted this same message in BI 2K forums (two times) but message doesn't exist and only I can see was a message saying 'a moderator have to supervise your message'. My previous posts appeared instantly. What's going on?
Shiftyyyy. Are there any threads that are active on their forums which try to discuss the issue?
I posted here
http://forums.2kgames.com/showthrea...ing-Pauses-even-on-high-end-PC-hardware/page2
You can see Chris Kline (Irrational) posting there.
reptilescorpio
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Ended up fixing my texture detail level issue by bumping up the pool values in the default .ini as detailed here.
I left it that high despite incurring a slight framerate skip when moving into the loading areas that has been discussed in this thread but the trade off for the much higher quality textures makes it more than acceptable. I don't think it is to the same level as you guys as I only hit it rarely.
Might be time to upgrade the GPU soon I think.
I still get those loading pauses in elevators and transition points where the game is pulling in a new part of the level. The frame rate drops to approximately 30 or so fps. I had been having game breaking hitching, where the game would literally freeze for seconds at a time making combat impossible.
The hitching remains whether using an SSD (or multiple SSDs) or a standard HDD, this isn't an issue of I/O bottlenecks, it's CPU stalls.Ce-Lin said:
Which doesn't say they can or cannot be fixed, but fundamentally this is not a limitation of disk-read speeds(many PCs could stream the entire game worth of assets multiple times over during that 2minute video), it's something about how their asynchronous asset-loading works.
I completely agree, the small stutter when the game is loading assets could be due to a thread prioritization issue.
Oh good, so I'm not alone in my deduction. The only thing I could see after about an hour of fucking around was that CPU interrupts were the only thing that skyrocketed during those segments (along with the time to generate the frame, obviously). It's a clear issue of the game (for some bizarre reason) only using a single core to do anything, so everything bottlenecks up.
Is that a UE3 thing? Are there other games on the same engine that do or don't display the same issue?
Betta Lines
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Arkham City exhibited stuttering on my system, but in a slightly different way.
Dishonored, which is probably closer to Infinite's structure than Arkham had no stuttering whatsoever.
Dishonored, which is probably closer to Infinite's structure than Arkham had no stuttering whatsoever.
If you have a 680, there shouldn't be any reason to not play it maxed out
Developers never seem able to recreate anything on their test PCs.
Betta Lines
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I can't stand it when dev studios say this. I refuse to believe they can't recreate it, particularly as they will know exactly where the triggers are across the entire level map. It sounds like they are either buying time or denying there is problem.
Tummi Gummi
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Does he mean they can't replicate the stuttering at all or just the chronic stuttering affecting some people? Even I get a tiny bit of stuttering moving between sub-zones of a map, other than that it's fine.