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Black Ops 2 updated with Viral Marketing for the next Call of Duty.

Javin98

Banned
That's probably what they'll do. I guess the last gen versions still sell though, so it makes sense why they'd do it. Hopefully this is the last year though.
As long as the current gen versions look great and run at 1080p at close to locked 60FPS (on PS4, at least), I'm satisfied tbh.
 
Can we go back to classic guns and weapons? Even 70's and 80's guns like in Black Ops 1?

I'm tired of futuristic bullshit.

Yeah, after the last few I am ready to go back a bit as well. A Retro Combat in the 60 or 70s would be good and would compliment Advanced Warfare well for me.
 

vin-buc

Member
Every like three lives I spawn right in front of an enemy and die instantly in Ghosts. So. No.

Really not sure how it's working for you but i have an obscene amount of time in Ghosts and hardly experience this. I think you're stretching it a bit. And learn not to get yourself spawn trapped =)
 
Really? Why can't devs just let cross gen games die? Well, at least, I hope they focus mainly on the current gen versions and leave the last gen versions to a smaller dev team ala Advanced Warfare.

There's still a pretty big market for an old-gen version, I think.

For people who only really play CoD, I feel like there's been little incentive to really move to what is now current gen (because hey, it's CoD, it doesn't look *that* much better on XB1/PS4). Taking away the cross platform option forces people to either upgrade or not buy the game, and that's just not something I can see ATVI doing.

After all, it isn't their responsibility to get everybody on XB1/PS4. Sure, the game would be better for it if it were only on those consoles, but it's Sony/MS's job to get everyone to make the switch and ATVI have no reason to sacrifice sales for this cause.
 

Caayn

Member
Blops 3? Please include a decent zombie mode right from the start, no DLC lock-in like in AW or a bad zombie mode like in BLOPS 2. Just plain old zombies from BLOPS 1 or WaW with new maps, weapons and perks please.
 
No World War II, no buy. At least near launch. Star Wars Battlefront will be coming out around the same time and I don't see the point in playing two futuristic shooters at the same time and I am completely burned out on modern shooters.
 

Javin98

Banned
There's still a pretty big market for an old-gen version, I think.

For people who only really play CoD, I feel like there's been little incentive to really move to what is now current gen (because hey, it's CoD, it doesn't look *that* much better on XB1/PS4). Taking away the cross platform option forces people to either upgrade or not buy the game, and that's just not something I can see ATVI doing.

After all, it isn't their responsibility to get everybody on XB1/PS4. Sure, the game would be better for it if it were only on those consoles, but it's Sony/MS's job to get everyone to make the switch and ATVI have no reason to sacrifice sales for this cause.
I know, I can imagine the outrage from some hardcore COD fans on the 360 if cross gen support is dropped. But let's be reasonable. This November, the 360 will be ten frigging years old. It's about time to move on.
 

sonto340

Member
Really not sure how it's working for you but i have an obscene amount of time in Ghosts and hardly experience this. I think you're stretching it a bit. And learn not to get yourself spawn trapped =)
Three lives maybe a bit of an exaggeration lol.
It's just my memories of ghosts is getting shot from seven different directions at all times and getting killed after spawning constantly. I did enjoy it the other night when my friend and I went back to it for a few matches though, so maybe that was early before people had figured out the pathing and flow of the maps.

I will give you hit detection and met code easily though. AW has absolute garbage net code, but I just feel like the map design is much tighter and the Exo movement feels fresh enough that I'm willing to put up with its quirks.
 

MilesTeg

Banned
I know, I can imagine the outrage from some hardcore COD fans on the 360 if cross gen support is dropped. But let's be reasonable. This November, the 360 will be ten frigging years old. It's about time to move on.

CoD is pretty much the only franchise outside of sports games where I can imagine a last gen version is still profitable. Take the same game, strip out all the graphics effects, get it running at 50fps or so, and that's pretty much it. As long as this travesty continues to sell millions on old gen they will do it. They will do it until it becomes too costly/time consuming to downgrade the game for last gen vs sales.
 

sh1fty

Member
Black Ops 1 has been my favourite CoD so far, so I'm really looking forward to what Treyarch has in store.

Black Ops 2 was OK.. I think it wasn't a great experience for me because it's the first and last CoD I played exclusively on PC. Multiplayer tends to be much more forgiving on consoles.
 
I love how much everyone complains about skill based matchmaking, was it even confirmed?

I believe it was in BO2 for some time before being removed because of heavy complaints on Twitter, but it was added again for AW.

Its not confirmed for the next CoD, but I can see Treyarch adding that shit in until its complained about. It won't be the first time they did something like that.
 

Pachimari

Member
I honestly don't want the exoskeleton back. That's just not the kind of shooter I want to play in my Call of Duty - I have Titanfall for all of that versatility. So I'm really hoping Treyarch does a Black Ops 3.
 
I believe it was in BO2 for some time before being removed because of heavy complaints on Twitter, but it was added again for AW.

Its not confirmed for the next CoD, but I can see Treyarch adding that shit in until its complained about. It won't be the first time they did something like that.

BO2's league play was a great panacea for this issue though - I can see the same happening for the next game, leaving regular MM untouched hopefully.

League play emphasis even more likely with Treyarch's interest in eSports combined with the growth of the scene over the years.
 

Zombine

Banned
So excited for this, but it made me realize that after this game drops, I will also be on the 3 year rotation. I only really like the Treyarch titles, and the others are wasted money. I play them for a prestige or two and I'm over it.
 

sonto340

Member
I believe it was in BO2 for some time before being removed because of heavy complaints on Twitter, but it was added again for AW.

Its not confirmed for the next CoD, but I can see Treyarch adding that shit in until its complained about. It won't be the first time they did something like that.
Why are people so done on it? I can't see the downside. Getting matched with a bunch of prestige masters and ending up with some level fives on my team is not fun in anyway.
 
BO2's league play was a great panacea for this issue though - I can see the same happening for the next game, leaving regular MM untouched hopefully.

League play emphasis even more likely with Treyarch's interest in eSports combined with the growth of the scene over the years.

That's the best way to go as far as matchmaking goes.

Now they would have to drop some decent, balanced maps and competent weapon/perk/equipment balancing and we are all set. Hopefully they calm down with less complex shit too. CoD has gotten too gimmicky since MW2. Seeing shit through walls and shit...lol.

Hope they can strike a CS vibe I would get with CoD4.

Why are people so done on it? I can't see the downside. Getting matched with a bunch of prestige masters and ending up with some level fives on my team is not fun in anyway.

Yea, its annoying as hell. There are probably hardcore apologists on Twitter or on the official forums that defend it because anyone who lonewolf can tell you that skill matchmaking is terrible.

And it takes longer to get into games as well if your KDR is high enough since there is smaller window of lobbies you are allowed in.
 

H3xum

Member
So excited for this, but it made me realize that after this game drops, I will also be on the 3 year rotation. I only really like the Treyarch titles, and the others are wasted money. I play them for a prestige or two and I'm over it.

Samesies.

First CoD I'll snag up and (hopefully) enjoy in a while
 

Durden77

Member
Wait....people DISLIKED AW's exo suit stuff?

Really? AW was the most fun I'd had with CoD since MW2. Campaign and multiplayer. There's no way I'm picking this up if they backtrack on that.
 

mephixto

Banned
BO2 has more people playing on steam than other COD's right now.

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BO2 imo was the best COD but I had more fun with MW2 cause friends
 

Linkhero1

Member
No exoskeleton shit and decent matchmaking and I'll be back.

This right here.

Also, make the game modern and bring back demolition and infected.

Wait....people DISLIKED AW's exo suit stuff?

Really? AW was the most fun I'd had with CoD since MW2. Campaign and multiplayer. There's no way I'm picking this up if they backtrack on that.

Well, I don't think BO3 will continue it. It's a different entry in the series. I think Sledgehammer will continue making CoD with exo stuff.
 
I'll get excited if they announce the game only for the current generation consoles.

Tired of quake engine capping games to run at 540p and 40ish frames on ps3 and x360.

But oh boy, I miss Black Ops 1. So many moments
 

RockManiac44R

Neo Member
I really wish they would have done another World War II shooter. It's been too long since we had a proper World War II shooter. They will really have to do something big with the reveal to ignite my interest with a Black Ops 3.
 
Wait....people DISLIKED AW's exo suit stuff?

Really? AW was the most fun I'd had with CoD since MW2. Campaign and multiplayer. There's no way I'm picking this up if they backtrack on that.

I actually loved it myself but I'd rather it be self contained to AW because sometimes it can be too frantic even for me (and MW2 is my favorite in MP due to its quickness).

I do miss the traditional chokepoints on the maps from older CODs. One thing that bothered me in AW is I felt like I was constantly being shot in the back since it appeared that anybody could be anywhere in a much faster time than normal.
 

Hip Hop

Member
new 10 second clip has just been added on Snapchat saying: “Let your thoughts drift…let the bad memories fade…let peace be upon you.”
 

Pachimari

Member
It annoys me, that I have such a hard time deciding to go with the PS4 or PC version every single year. I rather play with mouse and keyboard, but the community is larger on console.
 

TheXbox

Member
Black Ops 2 is an incredible game, so I'm looking forward to this. I'd hope to see them push the mobility features from AW in new directions and continue their non-linear storytelling. That was one of BO2's biggest strengths, imo.
 

vin-buc

Member
Three lives maybe a bit of an exaggeration lol.
It's just my memories of ghosts is getting shot from seven different directions at all times and getting killed after spawning constantly. I did enjoy it the other night when my friend and I went back to it for a few matches though, so maybe that was early before people had figured out the pathing and flow of the maps.

I will give you hit detection and met code easily though. AW has absolute garbage net code, but I just feel like the map design is much tighter and the Exo movement feels fresh enough that I'm willing to put up with its quirks.

What I find (and this is through my feeling when i play the game) - is that because of how fast the movement is with the jump/dash - the code has a hard time of correctly registering hits. It's already a fast paced game at 60fps - and i feel like the code can't keep up with that.

I like most of the maps on AW and the guns/attachments (and im not into lasers but definitely digging the widow maker). I hope they get rid of the variant system - it's silly. Still waiting for the Bal Obsidian Steed and the AK R.I.P. Do they want me to buy them (lol) in the supply drops?

The perk tier system for AW/BLoPs is below Ghosts (where you can load all the perks from a single tier and not be restricted like BLoPs, AW). This promotes player choice. There have been times in Ghosts where i just run all speed perks and i feel like i'm on a rush.

The streaks in AW are straight garbage - compared to Ghosts, best streak is the UAV. In ghosts I bought the 1.99 wolf skin for Reilly - i use it in so many classes. Specialist streak is awesome as well. Support streak? A little OP but still great.

What happened to the lean mechanic from Ghosts??? That needs to come back - not because i use it but because it helped the not-so-great players. As annoying as it is - I don't fault people for camping and this helps them.

Ghosts gets bashed a lot but it's a good CoD game. These are some of my nits I hope are addressed in the next game.
 
The streaks in AW are straight garbage - compared to Ghosts, best streak is the UAV. In ghosts I bought the 1.99 wolf skin for Reilly - i use it in so many classes. Specialist streak is awesome as well. Support streak? A little OP but still great.

This was another thing that the last few games seem to be getting wrong, but I still think the streaks were kind of a step up from Ghosts to be honest. Though nothing will ever beat the coolness of the AC-130 from the MW games. They had the goliath in AW, but its not nearly as cool as the AC-130.

The streaks were one of the reasons I got bored with Ghosts. That and the maps sucked and/or were way too big(dont have any comment on the DLC since I didnt bother buying it).
 

vin-buc

Member
This was another thing that the last few games seem to be getting wrong, but I still think the streaks were kind of a step up from Ghosts to be honest. Though nothing will ever beat the coolness of the AC-130 from the MW games. They had the goliath in AW, but its not nearly as cool as the AC-130.

The streaks were one of the reasons I got bored with Ghosts. That and the maps sucked and/or were way too big(dont have any comment on the DLC since I didnt bother buying it).

There are soo many good streaks in Ghosts though. And there are soo many to chose from whether it's assault, support, specialist. AC-130 was beast - no arguing. The way those missiles came down and the sound - awesome!!! LoL - i really hope they remaster MW2 (doubtful) but I signed the petition anyway.

In terms of maps - i feel like this had something to do with player feedback so IW tried to switch scope. Maps like Siege is only good for Ground War but overall probably ALWAYS gets skipped. Chasm and Whiteout i've actually learned to enjoy. I usually run agility/marathon so the map size doesn't hinder me as much. I get to front lines pretty quick ;P
 

BokehKing

Banned
So excited for this, but it made me realize that after this game drops, I will also be on the 3 year rotation. I only really like the Treyarch titles, and the others are wasted money. I play them for a prestige or two and I'm over it.
Exactly, this will be my last COD until the next treyarch release, so I'm definitely buying the season pass and get everything they make
Especially zombies


As far as streaks, they could go back to 3, 5, 7

The 'shooting fish in a barrel' killstreaks just made people quit matches
 
I really hope they update most if not all character animations finally...

This running animation for characters is just embarrassing. And they using this animation since CoD4 or before, dont remember.

And and if there is future warfare crap with double jump etc please create a Control scheme that is friendly to people that dont wanna waste 200 bucks on a SCUF controller.
Biggest problem for me in Advance Warfare. Control settings just suck there if you dont own a SCUF.

Give me Bumper Jumper and i will be happy.
 

BokehKing

Banned
I really hope they update most if not all character animations finally...



Give me Bumper Jumper and i will be happy.
Buy it on ps4 and make bumper jumper yourself with the button assignment feature from the newest OS update.


But yeah...... Bring me Nuketown Part 3 please
 
Buy it on ps4 and make bumper jumper yourself with the button assignment feature from the newest OS update.


But yeah...... Bring me Nuketown Part 3 please

Why should i buy a Console im not interested in? Im a Xbox Player.

Devs could simply add more control schemes. Or let me customize for myself.
 

vin-buc

Member
I really hope they update most if not all character animations finally...

This running animation for characters is just embarrassing. And they using this animation since CoD4 or before, dont remember.

And and if there is future warfare crap with double jump etc please create a Control scheme that is friendly to people that dont wanna waste 200 bucks on a SCUF controller.
Biggest problem for me in Advance Warfare. Control settings just suck there if you dont own a SCUF.

Give me Bumper Jumper and i will be happy.

Ha - the worst offender is the body lag (rubbing/conflicting with a team mate) and getting stuck on random geometry.

Just an fyi - you can get send your controller to cinch to get buttons on the back.
 
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